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  1. The Story Behind Creating DNS | Paul Mockapetris

    19 oktober 2026 · 54 min

    Afspelen
    This interview is with Paul Mockapetris, the creator of the internet's Domain Name System (DNS). I talked to him about the story behind building it and certain design choices he made. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/
    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT4iVeUoL18
    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/e071-paul-mockapetris

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:40) What computing was like before DNS
    (09:02) Why URLs are inverted
    (16:33) How DNS works
    (20:27) How he migrated the internet to DNS
    (25:17) Why do companies host DNS servers
    (33:17) What is an RFC
    (35:07) How he got into computing
    (46:39) Advice for his younger self
    (52:56) Outro

    Where to find Paul:

    • Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mockapetris

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
    • Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

    Referenced in this episode:

    • Original DNS RFC 882: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc882/
    • Original DNS RFC 883: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc883/

  2. Scott Aaronson: The Mathocalypse, Will Intelligence Matter Anymore?

    12 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 1 min

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    Scott Aaronson is one of the world's leading quantum computing researchers and spent two years at OpenAI working on AI safety. Lees meer

    We talked about why he thinks the singularity has already begun for math, who gets credit when AI writes the proof, and whether intelligence will still matter once machines do the thinking.

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/
    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlscppGGh4
    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/e070-scott-aaronson

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:34) Why he updated so hard on AI
    (01:14) The people still denying AI progress
    (03:53) The singularity has already begun for math
    (08:30) Will human-driven math research survive
    (13:12) Who gets credit for AI-written papers
    (15:55) OpenAI's $15M Navier-Stokes proof
    (19:20) What if AI proved P = NP
    (23:07) Why AI is so good at finding counterexamples
    (26:13) The goalposts keep moving
    (28:52) Why AI disclosure matters in research
    (32:59) The fake Monet experiment
    (35:23) Why he blogs instead of getting rich
    (39:45) Are AI labs racing too fast
    (42:01) Will intelligence still matter
    (47:12) Book recommendations
    (52:27) Advice for students today
    (57:23) Reacting live to a new AI result
    (59:58) Outro

    Where to find Scott:

    • Personal website: https://www.scottaaronson.com/
    • Blog — Shtetl-Optimized: https://scottaaronson.blog/
    • Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Aaronson

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlp…

  3. Neetcode: Google vs Amazon, Programming Interviews, Quitting Big Tech

    5 oktober 2026 · 35 min

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    Neetcode is the most well-known coding interview prep creator with over 1M+ subs on YouTube. I interviewed him about the latest on coding interviews, his career at Amazon vs Google, and what it was like quitting big tech to do his own thing. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://youtu.be/K15dND_Kfvg

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/neetcode-google-vs-amazon-programming

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:33) Quitting Amazon after 2 months

    (06:00) Testing Neetcode on Leetcode

    (12:57) Memorizing vs deriving solutions and intelligence

    (16:13) The story behind Neetcode

    (22:24) Getting a job at Google

    (27:47) How it was quitting big tech

    (29:38) What he hated most about Google

    (30:52) Top technical book recommendation

    (32:34) Advice for his younger self

    (33:46) Outro

    Where to find Neetcode:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/navdeep-singh-3aaa14161/

    • Twitter/X: https://x.com/neetcode1

    • His website: https://neetcode.io/

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NeetCodeIO

    • GitHub: https://github.com/neetcode-gh

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neetcodeio/

    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neetcode.io

    • Discord: https://discord.gg/ddjKRXPqtk

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/

    • Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman

    • TikTok: https:/…

  4. Amazon VP: Questions On Corporate Politics But They Get Increasingly Darker | Ethan Evans

    28 september 2026 · 3 uur 8 min

    Afspelen
    In this episode, I asked Ethan Evans (ex-Amazon VP) questions about common situations in corporate politics but they get increasingly darker. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/
    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhjhRRz3VJw
    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/e068-ethan-evans

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:
    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:
    (00:00) Intro
    (00:42) How to receive credit for your work
    (19:18) Ways for quiet people to get visibility
    (21:32) How to be trusted for top projects
    (29:52) How to defend from others taking your project
    (36:13) How to reject bad projects
    (44:10) How to be first for promo
    (55:35) How to handle managers that dislike career growth talk
    (01:06:30) What if your manager is in the way
    (01:15:43) Did he ever have overly political reports
    (01:28:06) How to fire a bad manager
    (01:35:16) What gives you leverage
    (01:43:41) How to defend against peers undermining you
    (01:50:24) What if everyone is good at politics
    (01:55:11) How Jeff Bezos burned him for empire building
    (02:03:27) How to retain your headcount
    (02:07:31) Career recommendations for the current landscape
    (02:15:11) How to avoid negative layoff optics
    (02:18:39) How to develop executive presence
    (02:29:25) How to network in a natural way
    (02:33:30) How to network with powerful people
    (02:41:01) How to learn hidden incentives
    (02:44:43) What happens behind the scenes with HR
    (02:50:13) Did he burn people to get ahead
    (02:53:24) What he says to people who hate politics
    (02:59:03) Top book recommendations on power dynamic…

  5. OpenAI & Meta Distinguished Eng (IC9): The Psychology Behind Tech Career Peaks | Philip Su

    21 september 2026 · 44 min

    Afspelen
    Philip Su grew quickly to a Distinguished Engineer at Facebook and OpenAI. We talked about the psychology behind peaking in a tech career and the pressure at the highest levels. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/
    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMo04pSSiao
    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835
    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/openai-and-meta-distinguished-eng

    Thank you to this episode's sponsors for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/
    • Jira by Atlassian: Get more work done with your favorite agents and models all in one place, check them out at https://jira.dev/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro
    (00:37) Growth past IC9
    (05:39) Motivation changes over his career
    (11:36) Asking to not be promoted
    (17:33) What made it hard to sustain IC9 performance
    (22:22) What motivated him outside of promos
    (26:21) Is career advice useless
    (29:34) Motivation after you've hit FIRE
    (36:08) Meaning and fulfillment
    (38:17) Top book recommendation
    (40:14) What he would change
    (43:24) Outro

    Where to find Philip:

    • Substack newsletter: https://molochinations.substack.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suphilip/
    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/philipsu

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/
    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpeterman/
    • Threads: https://www.threads.com/@ryanlpeterman
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanlpeterman
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ryanlpeterman

    Referenced in this episode:

    • Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals: https://us.macmillan.com/books/97803747152…

  6. Casey Muratori: Surprises In Computer History And Where Bad Code Comes From

    14 september 2026 · 1 uur 58 min

    Afspelen
    Casey Muratori is a video game developer and programming creator also known for his talks about the history of software and computing. We talked about surprising parts he found while digging through computer history, where bad code comes from, and his career story. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://youtu.be/jHLbL1Eg4gM

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/casey-muratori-surprises-in-computer

    Thank you to this episode's sponsors for supporting my work:

    • Jira by Atlassian: Get more work done with your favorite agents and models all in one place, check them out at https://jira.dev/

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:08) Digging into computer science history

    (04:08) What shocked him

    (16:23) Dijkstra was depressed

    (26:17) The personal side of goto considered harmful

    (35:09) The anatomy of a 35 year mistake

    (50:12) Clean code horrible performance

    (58:33) How to write high performance code

    (01:01:18) Where bad code comes from

    (01:06:37) Why design docs before code is a bad idea

    (01:09:20) The only unbreakable law in software engineering

    (01:15:57) How he got into programming

    (01:21:16) Why he didnt work in big tech

    (01:30:44) Should you work at a startup early on

    (01:34:52) What video game engineering is like

    (01:39:57) Why preventing recursion is reasonable

    (01:43:24) Is vibe coding bad for the industry

    (01:50:17) Technical reading recommendation

    (01:54:27) Advice for his younger self

    (01:56:54) Outro

    Where to find Casey:

    • Website: https://caseymuratori.com/

    • Newsletter: https://…

  7. How Anthropic Builds And How Engineering Will Change Soon | Thariq Shihipar

    7 september 2026 · 1 uur 11 min

    Afspelen
    Thariq Shihipar is an engineer on Anthropic’s Claude Code team I asked him how Anthropic makes the most out of the models for engineering and how the industry will change soon. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Kch3tWMnw8

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/how-anthropic-builds-and-how-engineering

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:29) Onboarding at Anthropic

    (02:53) Internal capabilities vs external perception

    (06:16) Model vs Harness

    (08:55) What percent of Anthropics changes are fully autonomous

    (14:51) Computer use

    (17:42) How to make the most out of your compute

    (20:45) Loop engineering

    (22:47) Where the industry will go soon

    (26:02) Which model do Anthropic engineers use

    (27:38) Is learning a particular model worth it

    (30:56) Prompting tips for todays models

    (35:04) How to get the models to do tasteful work

    (39:00) How much of writing is done by AI at Anthropic

    (45:36) Code ownership and maintenance at Anthropic

    (52:04) How Anthropic prevents breakages

    (55:24) Visibility and sharing your work

    (58:42) Luck surface area example

    (01:00:57) Should people still learn to code

    (01:07:42) Advice for his younger self

    (01:09:58) Outro

    Where to find Thariq:

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/trq212

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thariqshihipar/

    • Personal Website: https://www.thariq.io/

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman

    • LinkedIn: https:…

  8. Creator of Scala: Comparing Languages And How AI Will Impact Them | Martin Odersky

    31 augustus 2026 · 58 min

    Afspelen
    Martin Odersky is the creator of Scala and I interviewed him to compare different languages designs (Rust vs Zig vs Python vs Scala) and how AI will impact programming languages. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://youtu.be/LdN4sPWM-WY

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/creator-of-scala-comparing-languages?r=n49ky

    Thank you to this episode's sponsors for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    • Jira by Atlassian: Get more work done with your favorite agents and models all in one place, check them out at https://jira.dev/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:44) Why care about functional programming

    (06:35) Why should people learn Scala

    (09:26) Rust vs Scala

    (12:42) Rust vs Zig

    (15:45) Scala vs Python

    (18:31) The programming languages that influenced him

    (22:16) How running on the JVM works

    (26:33) Why writing a compiler is hard

    (29:19) Why Twitter adopted Scala early on

    (31:00) How he believes AI will impact programming languages

    (43:40) Will there be less engineers in ten years

    (44:34) Top programming languages to learn to grow

    (46:18) Top technical book recommendation

    (46:51) Why he chose academia instead of industry

    (48:28) Reflecting on Scala

    (55:42) Advice for his younger self

    (56:33) Outro

    Where to find Martin:

    • Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Odersky

    • Website: https://people.epfl.ch/martin.odersky

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/odersky

    • GitHub: https://github.com/odersky

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman
    …

  9. Sergey Levine: Current State of Humanoid Robotics, China & Future Predictions

    24 augustus 2026 · 58 min

    Afspelen
    Sergey Levine is one of the world's top robotics researchers and co-founder of Physical Intelligence. We talked about where humanoid robotics is today, thoughts on the Chinese robotics ecosystem, and his predictions for future timelines. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://youtu.be/9OSbaPjv0Rc

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/sergey-levine-current-state-of-humanoid?r=n49ky

    Thank you to this episode's sponsor for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:37) Where are we today

    (04:20) Most surprising capabilities so far

    (07:03) The most inspiring real world robotics

    (08:36) If OpenAI or Anthropic got into robotics

    (10:22) Chinese robotics

    (13:15) Will one lab breakout from the rest

    (16:59) Thoughts on a concrete roadmap

    (21:03) Generalization and demonstrating it

    (26:04) Types of data and which is best for robotics

    (34:34) Why humanoid robotics differs from Waymo

    (37:10) If humanoid robotics failed here is why

    (39:55) Are there hot take modeling architectures in robotics

    (42:05) Thoughts on AI safety in robotics

    (46:44) Top robotics research paper recommendation

    (49:35) Why is Boston Dynamics less top of mind

    (53:47) Advice for his younger self

    (56:42) Outro

    Where to find Sergey:

    • Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=8R35rCwAAAAJ&hl=en

    • Website: https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~svlevine/

    • Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Levine

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/svlevine?lang=en

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sergey-levine…

  10. Creator of TypeScript: 10x Faster Typescript, Why AI Won't Replace SWEs | Anders Hejlsberg

    17 augustus 2026 · 1 uur 6 min

    Afspelen
    Anders Hejlsberg is the creator of TypeScript and C#, and I asked him about how the TypeScript compiler got 10x faster through a rewrite in Go and his thoughts on how AI has impacted software engineering. Lees meer

    • My ergonomic keyboard project I mentioned, you can follow along here: https://read.compose.llc/

    • The Kickstarter page for it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ryanlpeterman/compose-simple-ergonomics-beautifully-done

    Podcast links:

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cywK3XYYJ2o

    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peterman-pod/id1777363835

    • Transcript: https://www.developing.dev/p/creator-of-typescript-10x-faster

    Thank you to this episode's sponsors for supporting my work:

    • WorkOS: makes your app Enterprise Ready with easy to use APIs to add SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more in just a few lines of code, check them out at https://workos.com/

    • Jira by Atlassian: Get more work done with your favorite agents and models all in one place, check them out at https://jira.dev/

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:48) Why write a compiler in JavaScript

    (07:29) Why rewrite the compiler in Go

    (14:49) LLMs for large migrations

    (20:12) Why Javascript is so popular

    (26:32) Why ever use Javascript on the backend

    (32:59) What it takes to build a programming language

    (37:06) Will there be fewer languages in 10 years

    (42:57) Hands on engineering vs delegation

    (49:14) Why fast tooling matters more now

    (51:16) AI software engineering predictions

    (58:52) The most technically challenging work

    (01:02:04) Top book recommendation

    (01:03:50) Advice for his younger self

    (01:05:00) Outro

    Where to find Anders:

    • GitHub: https://github.com/ahejlsberg

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ahejlsberg

    • Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Hejlsberg

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahejlsberg/

    Where to find Ryan:

    • Newsletter: https://www.developing.dev/

    • X/Twitter: https://x.com/ryanlpeterman

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlpe…

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