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  1. Mamdani’s Victory Is Less Significant Than You Think

    5 november 2025 · 5 min

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    Does Zohran Mamdani’s win mean a new dawn for the Democratic Party? Not exactly, Ross Douthat argues. In this mini-episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross explains that the New York mayor’s office has historically been a “springboard to nowhere,” rather than a precursor for national politics. Lees meer

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  2. What Palantir Sees

    30 oktober 2025 · 58 min

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    Who’s afraid of Palantir? The company’s chief technology officer, Shyam Sankar, joins Ross Douthat for a conversation about what the shadowy company actually does — and the thorny political and ethical questions it faces. They also discuss the new era of collaboration between Silicon Valley and the military, a personal project for Sankar, who was recently commissioned as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve. Lees meer

    01:37 - So, what does Palantir do?

    07:45 - The “kill chain”

    13:27 - The tech company’s relationship with I.C.E.

    18:09 - What happens to privacy?

    25:30 - Palantir and Israel

    27:22 - Sankar’s personal military journey

    34:43 - Silicon Valley’s militarization

    43:09 - TITAN, A.I. and the “Iron Man” suit

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  3. Taylor Swift’s Trad Turn

    29 oktober 2025 · 4 min

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    Is Taylor Swift’s “The Life of a Showgirl” the soundtrack for the Trump era? Self-titled “conservative dad” Ross Douthat thinks so, and explains why in this mini-episode of “Interesting Times. Lees meer

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  4. The Next Economic Bubble Is Here

    23 oktober 2025 · 53 min

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    Is the artificial intelligence revolution keeping the entire economy afloat? This week on “Interesting Times,” Ross talks with Jason Furman, an economist from the Harvard Kennedy School and a contributing writer for Times Opinion, about how investors, policymakers and consumers should think about the boom — and potential bust — of the fastest growing segment of the American economy and look to past bubbles for answers. Lees meer

    01:12 - Okay, so are we in a bubble?

    08:51 - Historical comparisons of past bubbles

    12:45 - The case for an A.I. bubble

    22:07 - The case against an A.I. bubble

    29:44 - What if it bursts?

    34:15 - The economic health of the Trump administration

    45:08 - “I'm reasonably optimistic.”

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  5. Amy Coney Barrett Is Looking Beyond the Trump Era

    16 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 4 min

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    Justice Amy Coney Barrett is playing the long game. In this week’s “Interesting Times,” she walks us through the current court’s most controversial rulings, why she believes that her originalist interpretations are resistant to ideological pressures and why she’s not comfortable thinking of herself as a cultural icon. Lees meer

    02:19 - Balancing the personal and the professional

    11:45 - The theory and practice of originalism

    18:00 - Why was Roe. v. Wade overruled?

    27:19 - Stare Decisis and Overruling Decisions

    35:29 - “Judges are human and judges are fallible.”

    42:49 - The Supreme Court is taking the long view

    53:20 - The Court's relationship with the executive branch

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  6. He Believes America Should Be a Theocracy. He Says His Influence Is Growing.

    9 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 15 min

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    Evangelical pastor and self-proclaimed Christian nationalist Doug Wilson has been preaching for decades that America needs to reclaim its Puritan past. But in 2025, he believes he’s “significantly” more influential. Does that mean America is closer to Wilson’s goal of theocracy? In this episode, nothing is off limits — even Ross’s own salvation. Lees meer

    01:36 - Doug Wilson's vision for a Christian nation

    08:37 - Wilson’s ideal theocratic republic

    19:12 - Theocracy and religious diversity

    30:50 - Do women have rights in this new republic?

    36:59 - Christendom and slavery

    46:50 - How far does Wilson’s influence go in a “clown world”?

    59:54 - Calvinism activism and quietism

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  7. Hasan Piker Is Flirting With the Revolution

    2 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 13 min

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    The Twitch and YouTube star Hasan Piker understands what pushes people to commit acts of political violence. But does that understanding tip over into appreciation? In this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat and Piker debate why Piker’s post-liberal rhetoric attracts criticism from the right (and results in the occasional platform suspension) and why Americans’ changing attitudes on Israel feed his “revolutionary optimism.” Lees meer

    02:14 - Life during and after Twitch

    10:45 - The Hasan Piker worldview

    15:57 - “Revolutionary violence”

    20:13 - Is it hyperbole or incitement?

    30:48 - Hasan’s Luigi Mangione coverage

    41:35 - The danger in pushing taboos

    51:52 - Anti-Zionist advocacy and Hasan’s Turkish background

    1:08:00 - “Revolutionary optimism”

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    A full transcript of this episode is also available on the Times website.

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  8. The Grand Strategy Behind Trump’s Crackdown on Academia

    25 september 2025 · 59 min

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    What is wrong with higher education in America? According to many on the right, a lot. This week, Ross Douthat talks to May Mailman, the lawyer behind President Trump’s battles with Harvard and Columbia, about the administration’s assault on the Ivy League and why “a glorification of victimhood” is changing the relationship between universities and the federal government. Lees meer

    02:51 - What is a “culture of victimhood”?

    07:38 - Mailman’s political awakening

    11:44 - Social media and protest culture in the 2010s

    19:39 - The Trump administration’s strategy against universities

    26:33 - The financial levers that could ensure compliance

    36:09 - Ideological diversity and free speech

    47:56 - How legal is all this?

    52:25 - Higher education in 2030

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  9. Ezra Klein Is Worried — but Not About a Radicalized Left

    18 september 2025 · 48 min

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    Ezra Klein argues that the left desperately needs a unifying project — for its own survival and for the sake of the country. In this episode of Ross Douthat’s “Interesting Times,” Ross and Ezra assess the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and debate whether the left has taken a dark turn. Lees meer

    00:25 How liberalism became “uncertain and exhausted”

    08:37 The void in the Democratic Party

    12:21 Does progressive despair lead to radicalism?

    15:04 “Violence is contagious"

    19:24 Can the left be more malleable?

    28:20 The hippies, Peter Thiel and technology

    32:11 Does the American left need cosmic hope?

    41:59 A vision of the “good life”

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  10. I was set to interview Charlie Kirk. Then he was assassinated.

    11 september 2025 · 8 min

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    In moments of political shock and horror, where can we turn? Ross was supposed to interview Charlie Kirk next month for the show and now offers his reflections on Kirk, his political movement and his assassination. Lees meer

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  11. Does the Future Belong to China?

    4 september 2025 · 1 uur 5 min

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    Is the United States still a worthy opponent for China? In this episode, Ross Douthat talks to Dan Wang, the author of “Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future,” about the alarming speed at which China is able to build and could blow America out of the water. Lees meer

    01:44 - “A life full of ease and beauty”

    05:30 - Rule by engineers

    11:00 - China’s Technological Mastery

    16:04 - Is autocracy driving innovation?

    25:00 - What are the real stakes of the competition?

    35:47 - How could China fail?

    53:00 - Advice for America

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  12. The MAGA Woman Dress Code

    28 augustus 2025 · 20 min

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    While “Interesting Times” is on vacation, we’re sharing a conversation from “The Opinions” between Meher Ahmad, an editor for Times Opinion, and the Opinion writer Jessica Grose. They talk about the aesthetics of MAGA women — think Kristi Noem and Nancy Mace — and what they signal about femininity and power within the Republican Party. Lees meer

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  13. Ross and Ezra Klein Discuss Trump, Mysticism and Psychedelics

    21 augustus 2025 · 1 uur 36 min

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    This week, we’re sharing a great conversation Ross had on “The Ezra Klein Show” this past spring. Ezra asks Ross about his most recent book, “Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious.” But along the way, they debate not just how religion influences the Trump administration but also their own lives. Come for their seeking and stay for their thoughts on ayahuasca and mystical encounters. Lees meer

    02:39 - Trump: man of destiny?

    19:55 - Political power, cruelty and Godliness

    36:13 - Religion and spirituality in the modern world

    42:53 - The mysteries of the universe…

    48:38 - Aliens! Fairies! (and some Catholic history)

    56:51 - Contending with uncertainty and evil

    1:05:24 - Psychedelic experiences

    1:20:56 - Official knowledge

    1:38:58 - Book recommendations

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  14. Abolish the Senate. End the Electoral College. Pack the Court.

    14 augustus 2025 · 56 min

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    For Democrats, President Trump’s victories have revealed the antidemocratic flaws at the core of our government. But could it be an opening for a constitutional revolution as the party searches for its next leader? Lees meer

    This week, Ross explores what that revolution would entail with Osita Nwanevu, the author of the book, “The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding.”

    3:46 - What's wrong with our democracy?
    9:07 - Our undemocratic founding
    17:00 - The case for more U.S. states and a new constitution
    23:52 - Where economic reform fits into this problem
    29:26 - Does Trump represent the will of the people?
    37:17 - What Trump’s presidency says about democracy
    40:30 - The elusive Bernie Sanders moment
    46:29 - The mystical element of our politics

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  15. The Next Parenting Trend Starts Before Conception

    7 augustus 2025 · 1 uur 3 min

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    Would you use an algorithm to select your embryos? Enter Orchid, a company that promises parents the ability to protect their future children through genetic testing for embryos before pregnancy. The founder, Noor Siddiqui, and Ross debate the scientific, moral and ethical implications of designing a “healthy” child and what we lose in separating reproduction from sex. Lees meer

    01:27 - Orchid’s vision

    04:59- The process and benefits

    17:20 - Noor explains why Orchid was developed

    22:00- Criticism and skepticism around genetic screening

    36:21 - Does IVF need to change?

    44:00 - “The moral status of the embryo”

    53:36 - How does this technology change us?

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  16. The DOGE Alum Asking if Foreign Aid Is America’s Problem

    31 juli 2025 · 48 min

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    Does America have a moral obligation to the world? The former Department of Government Efficiency staffer Jeremy Lewin, now deputy administrator for the United States Agency for International Development, explains how he is implementing President Trump’s foreign aid philosophy and what it means for humanitarian assistance going forward. Lees meer

    01:59 - From the private sector to interviewing with Elon Musk

    09:18 - The rapid restructuring of U.S.A.I.D.

    19:44 - Lewin’s critiques of U.S.A.I.D.’s focus

    25:15 - The most controversial cuts: humanitarian aid

    29:50 - America’s interests first, values-based interests second

    40:14 - What is the future vision for foreign aid?

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  17. What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?

    24 juli 2025 · 1 uur

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    U.F.O.s, fairies and abductions! This week, Ross talks to Diana Walsh Pasulka, a professor of religious studies, about how a deep dive into Catholic archives led her down a path to unravel the connections between religion, extraterrestrial encounters and government secrecy. Lees meer

    01:53 - How Pasulka’s religious studies led to the U.F.O. debate

    06:08 - Modern U.F.O. encounters and telepathic communication

    13:29 - What are the actual beliefs of the U.F.O. community?

    19:28 - Whistleblowers and government contradictions

    31:35 - Angels, demons and “actual things in the sky”

    45:38 - Disclosure

    52:51 - “Amazing.”

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  18. She Exposed Epstein, and Shares MAGA’s Anger

    19 juli 2025 · 59 min

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    Julie K. Brown thinks Jeffrey Epstein didn’t act alone. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Brown, the investigative reporter whose work ultimately led to Epstein’s re-arrest, about what the government could release that it hasn’t and how the story is bigger than Epstein. Lees meer

    2:32 - Brown's initial interest in the Epstein case

    5:26 - Discovering Epstein's crimes and the plea deal

    13:13 - Epstein's victims and the impact of Brown's reporting

    18:20 - Epstein's wealth and connections

    25:20 - Epstein's social circles

    35:01 - Certainty and unsolved mysteries

    45:25 - The role of government in the case

    51:04 - Trump and the political fallout

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  19. Is ‘Toxic Empathy’ Pulling Christians to the Left?

    17 juli 2025 · 1 uur 4 min

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    The conservative Christian podcaster Allie Beth Stuckey joins Ross on “Interesting Times” this week to explain why “toxic empathy” has a stranglehold on politics, whether evangelical Christians have a red line President Trump could cross and why her commentary has echoes of Phyllis Schlafly. Lees meer

    01:26 “The New Phyllis Schlafly”

    9:46 Untangling the web of Evangelical Protestants

    15:50 Female authority in the church

    22:12 What is “toxic empathy”?

    30:55 Toxic empathy and cruelty in American politics

    40:19 Do conservative christians have a red line?

    57:24 “The mushy middle”

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  20. Israel’s Moral Balance Beam

    10 juli 2025 · 46 min

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    How has the war in Gaza reverberated throughout American politics? Opinion columnist Bret Stephens and Ross Douthat debate the implications of the Israel-Gaza conflict on antisemitism, the morality of war, and why “Monday morning quarterbacking” is not productive when taking stock of military actions in the Middle East. Lees meer

    01:56 Israel actions in Gaza

    04:39 The moral baseline

    13:31 What is the end game?

    15:52 The role of Israel in American politics

    23:44 Can you criticize Israel without becoming antisemetic?

    36:05 Does Israel have obligations to the Jewish diaspora?

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  21. Why Trump’s Blood-and-Guts Strategy Worked

    3 juli 2025 · 56 min

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    Happy Independence Day! We’ll be back next week with a new episode, but today we’re sharing the episode that started us on the path to “Interesting Times.” Ross Douthat talks to Reihan Salam, the president of the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. Together they wrote the book “Grand New Party: How Republicans Can Win the Working Class and Save the American Dream.” Lees meer

    They review their George W. Bush-era prescriptions for the Republican Party to reclaim the working-class vote and the ways they were right (and wrong) about building a new Republican majority.

    03:47 George W. Bush era

    12:06 Rise and fall of the Tea Party

    18:19 Trump’s 2016 “blood and guts” message

    28:11 Trump’s effect on the right and left

    35:48 Trump’s first term economic agenda

    39:30 Elon Musk vs JD Vance

    46:50 Imagining an activist, conservative government

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  22. A Mind-Bending Conversation with Peter Thiel

    26 juni 2025 · 1 uur

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    The billionaire Peter Thiel is unimpressed with our pace of innovation. In this episode, he critiques artificial intelligence, longevity science and space travel — and warns that our lack of progress could lead to catastrophic outcomes, including the emergence of the Antichrist. Lees meer

    01:19 - What does stagnation mean in 2025?

    06:30 - Peter Thiel's case for more progress and innovation

    11:30 - Does taking more scientific risk include life extension?

    15:14 - Peter Thiel's political history

    18:34 - Did Trump live up to Thiel's expectations?

    25:10 - Does Elon Musk still want to go to Mars?

    28:09 - How Thiel defines A.I.

    33:20 - Is A.I. Too Modest An Ambition?

    35:23 - How will the human race evolve? Should it?

    41:53 - Thiel's critique of Silicon Valley

    43:40 - Who is the real Antichrist?

    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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  23. The Progressive Regulator Winning Over the Populist Right

    19 juni 2025 · 1 uur

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    Is the key to freedom a life without Amazon? This week, Ross talks to Lina Khan, former Chair of the Federal Trade Commission about how unchecked corporate power has limited choice in our day-to-day lives, and how her fight against Big Tech unites left and right. Lees meer

    02:41 - What’s wrong with big business?

    09:27 - The political costs of corporate consolidation

    11:39 - How the 2008 financial crisis shaped Lina Khan's philosophy

    17:49 - The antitrust consensus from Reagan to Obama

    21:54 - How the left and right align against big business

    26:12 - Khan's wins and losses at the FTC

    36:53 - Is the Trump administration embracing or rejecting Khan's vision?

    42:32 - Is anti-monopoly policy the solution to our economic problems?

    48:38 - Can Big Tech be broken up?

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  24. Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown

    12 juni 2025 · 43 min

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    Has immigration become the new litmus test for the Republican Party? In this episode, Ross talks to Matthew Continetti, the author of “The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism,” about the party’s shifting coalition, the defining role of immigration and how today’s right echoes its past. Lees meer

    01:50 - What the Elon experiment (and fallout) tells us about the Republican Party

    06:55 - Is there a tech right beyond DOGE?

    10:09 - Is the “new right” really all that new?

    18:16 - Where Trump’s agenda fits within the larger conservative story

    25:16 - “Immigration is the biggest issue of our time”

    28:39 - How border control will define conservatism around the world

    34:05 - Is Silicon Valley out of step with Trump's immigration crackdown?

    39:43 - Will Trump's ideas outlast Trump?

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  25. What Makes Art ‘Left Wing’?

    5 juni 2025 · 43 min

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    Does Hollywood have anything interesting left to say? In a world where franchises dominate and grown-up movies have fallen by the wayside, Ross talks to the showrunner Tony Gilroy, whose “Star Wars” spinoff “Andor” has, according to Ross, succeeded in being both original and smartly political in a Hollywood that is often neither. Lees meer

    03:04 - The political world of ”Andor”

    08:36 - Tony Gilroy's syllabus for “Andor”

    10:40 - Is “Andor” a left-wing show?

    17:07 - What makes Hollywood progressive or liberal?

    24:22 - Debating the politics of “Michael Clayton”

    29:42 - Why aren't there more movies for grown-ups?

    32:56 - “There are no movie stars anymore.”

    35:55 - How A.I. changing the movie business

    39:28 - Tony Gilroy's advice for future filmmakers

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  26. How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

    29 mei 2025 · 54 min

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    What would make you want to have more children? This week on “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat speaks with Dr. Alice Evans, a social scientist who is as concerned about the global decline in fertility as he is. The two discuss why this isn’t just a gender issue — it’s “a solitude issue” – and whether there’s a way to bring relationships back. Lees meer

    02:03 - What are the stakes of declining fertility?

    06:41 - Alice's master theory for why birth rates are falling

    09:04 - There are too many single people

    10:27 - We can thank technology for the coupling crisis

    12:58 - The digital segregation of men and women

    16:31 - Men have less to offer these days

    20:11 - What can bring the sexes back together

    24:31 - Could Hollywood help fix the problem?

    25:46 - Can the government incentivize people to have babies?

    27:30 - What role does religion play in all this?

    28:59 - The role of IVF

    40:50 - Does the fantasy of youth impact the numbers?

    43:43 - The world in 2080...

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  27. JD Vance on His Faith and Trump’s Most Controversial Policies

    21 mei 2025 · 1 uur 6 min

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    On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat interviews Vice President JD Vance about the Trump administration’s deportations, the tariff backlash and how Vance’s faith influences his politics. Lees meer

    01:49 - How faith shapes JD Vance’s politics

    04:26 - ‘Papal interventions in politics’

    14:44 - How will the Trump administration measure success on immigration?

    21:22 - ‘The courts are trying to overturn the will of the American people’

    23:55 - Are migrants really at war against the US?

    28:48 - The parallels between the War on Terror and Trump's deportation policies

    40:29 - What does a successful trade policy look like?

    48:10 - The "big, beautiful bill"

    58:57 - Does the Trump administration expect the AI revolution will take jobs?

    54:05 - What worries Vance about AI

    58:33 - JD Vance's message to shocked Trump voters

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  28. An Interview With the Herald of the Apocalypse

    15 mei 2025 · 59 min

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    Is artificial intelligence about to take your job? According to Daniel Kokotajlo, the executive director of the A.I. Futures Project, that should be the least of your worries. Kokotajlo was once a researcher for OpenAI, but left after losing confidence in the company’s commitment to A.I. safety. This week, he joins Ross to talk about “AI 2027,” a series of predictions and warnings about the risks A.I. poses to humanity in the coming years, from radically transforming the economy to developing armies of robots. Lees meer

    03:59 - What effect could AI have on jobs?

    06:45 - But wait, how does this make society richer?

    10:08 - Robot plumbers and electricians

    14:53 - The geopolitical stakes

    18:58 - AI’s honesty problem

    22:43 - The fork in the road

    27:55 - The best case scenario

    29:38 - The power structure in an AI-dominated world

    32:32 - What AI leaders think about this power structure

    38:30 - AI's hallucinations and limitations

    43:45 - Theories of AI consciousness

    47:05 - Is AI consciousness inevitable?

    50:59 - Humanity in an AI-dominated world

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  29. The Democratic Senator Taking Cues From Trumpism

    8 mei 2025 · 1 uur 4 min

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    Democrats are stumbling — badly. While the Trump administration redefines the limits of executive overreach, the Democratic party remains at odds over how to — even whether to — respond. But Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut has a plan for beating Republicans in 2026, and it involves taking a cue from President Trump. He shares it with Ross Douthat on this episode of Interesting Times. Lees meer

    02:07 - The First 100 Days for Trump and the Democrats

    04:06 - The Threat to Democracy Wasn’t Enough Then or Now.

    06:49 - How Dems Fight Trump

    13:41 - Where Chris Murphy Can Agree With the Populist Right

    16:38 - Is Connecticut a Model of What is Wrong with Democrats?

    25:54 - The Spiritual Crisis in American Life

    27:56 - The Problem with Big Tech

    33:45 - How Do Democrats (And Murphy) Talk About Religion? Should They?

    45:35 - Is Trump Really Running An Oligarchy?

    50:34 - Does the Democratic Party Need a Bigger Tent?

    53:54 - A Need for a National Consensus on Immigration

    57:09 - “A Democracy Dies Without a High Stakes Confrontation”

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  30. The New Culture of the Right: Vital, Masculine and Intentionally Offensive

    1 mei 2025 · 1 uur 13 min

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    The Trump era is ushering in a new age of right wing counterculture, one defined by masculinity and transgression. In this episode of Interesting Times, Ross speaks with Jonathan Keeperman, the founder of Passage Press, about the influence of an edgy, reactionary, right-wing “vibe shift” on American politics and culture. Lees meer

    2:09 - Jonathan Keeperman’s Lomez days

    5:25 - 2014: An inflection point in American culture?

    7:40 - The emergence of a “conservative counter elite”

    9:41 - The creation of a right wing counterweight to the dominant left

    12:32 - What makes something “conservative art”?

    15:18 - Are David Lynch films right wing art? Is Girls?

    18:11 - Is there such a thing as good left wing art?

    19:32 - Right wing counterculture’s obsession with “vitalism”

    22:56 - Longhouse culture: Is the “over feminization” of society making America weaker?

    27:55 - Is the longhouse argument just a “long male whine”?

    30:41 - Is right wing counterculture anti-Christian?

    35:48 - Trump as mythic hero

    43:31 - What is the function of racism in right wing counterculture?

    53:50 - Are racist means transgressive or just racist?

    1:05:43 - Will the rightward vibe shift show up in pop culture?

    1:07:37 - Why every high school senior should read “Moby Dick” and watch “No Country for Old Men”

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  31. Can the Catholic Church Quit the Culture Wars?

    24 april 2025 · 58 min

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    On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat is joined by the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and an editor of America Magazine, to reflect on the legacy of Pope Francis and the challenges facing the next papacy. Lees meer

    02:20 The First Jesuit Pope

    05:23 Google Translate and Exchanging Emails

    06:05 The Visual Element of Francis’s Legacy

    07:48 The Concrete Changes Made

    16:19 Christian Sexual Ethics

    25:22 The Church in the Modern World

    27:14 What Kind of Leader Will the Next Pope Be?

    31:57 The Latin Mass Controversy

    34:54 What Draws People to Christianity?

    39:21 What Holds Such a Diverse Church Together?

    43:09 The Influence of the Pope and the Hierarchy

    46:41 A Renewed Interest in Religion

    48:30 The Church as a Field Hospital

    49:13 What Father Martin Hopes to See in the Next Pope

    49:59 Where Should the New Pope Go?

    52:27 Who Will Be the Next Pope?

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  32. What if There’s No Way to Stop Trump’s Approach to Power?

    17 april 2025 · 1 uur 6 min

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    President Trump may forever reshape the boundaries of executive power. This week on “Interesting Times,” Ross and Jack Goldsmith, who was the head of the White House’s Office of Legal Counsel under President George W. Bush, discuss which cases are most likely to win in the courts and permanently expand the executive branch — for better or worse. Lees meer

    00:02:03 Donald Trump’s “moonshot on executive power”

    00:04:16 What has surprised Goldsmith the most

    00:06:57 Are we in a constitutional crisis?

    00:08:59 Alien Enemies Act

    00:14:02 The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

    00:25:23 Godel’s loophole and Supreme Court enforcement

    30:10 Trump’s firings of federal employees and restructuring of U.S.A.I.D.

    36:11 Trump’s power over congressionally appropriated funding

    41:29 Obama v. Trump’s discretion on enforcing laws passed by Congress

    43:03 The TikTok case

    45:46 Lawsuit over Trump’s tariffs

    51:57 How the Supreme Court (maybe) thinks about picking its battles

    54:24 Worst case scenarios

    56:59 What the Supreme Court can do if the Trump administration does not comply

    01:01:32 What a Trump executive power revolution could look like in 2028 and beyond

    01:04:39 If Democrats win in 2028, what happens?

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  33. This Instability May Be Worth It. Here's Why.

    10 april 2025 · 48 min

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    Is the short-term economic pain of President Trump’s unpredictable approach to tariffs a reasonable price to pay for a more resilient America? Mr. Trump appears to think so, and so does Oren Cass — sort of. On the first episode of “Interesting Times,” the founder and chief economist of the think tank American Compass joins Ross Douthat to discuss and debate the Trump administration’s drastic trade war. Lees meer

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  34. Introducing ‘Interesting Times’

    6 april 2025 · 3 min

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    There’s a saying that comes to mind these days: May you live in interesting times. It’s understood to be a curse, even though it sounds like a blessing. Lees meer

    “Interesting Times With Ross Douthat” is a new weekly podcast from New York Times Opinion. Every Thursday, he will map the new world order through interviews and conversations. Answering questions like: What does our new political era really look like? What is the future of democracy around the world, with American empire in retreat? What happens to movies and books — all of culture — in our digital and A.I.-dominated age?

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  35. How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump’s Arms

    6 april 2025 · 1 uur 3 min

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    The tech investor Marc Andreessen and his fellow Silicon Valley giant Elon Musk weren’t always the Donald Trump supporters they are today. In this episode, Ross asks Andreessen, a founder of the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, about what led to Silicon Valley’s rightward shift and the new agenda of the tech-right faction. Lees meer

    Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 17, 2025.

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  36. Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs’ vs. Populism

    6 april 2025 · 1 uur 12 min

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    In this conversation, Ross talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump’s first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda. Lees meer

    Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 31, 2025.

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  37. The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education

    6 april 2025 · 1 uur 5 min

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    Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror." Lees meer

    Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Mar. 7, 2025.

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