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  1. From VC to Main Street: How AI Is Rewiring Service Businesses

    3 december 2025 · 52 min

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    In this episode, Cyrus Hessabi from Shore Capital Partners breaks down what it really looks like to build AI-enabled services, transition from VC to micro-cap private equity, and back searchers buying “boring” but powerful businesses. Lees meer

    Cyrus has lived every chapter of the operator-investor journey: aerospace engineering, Salesforce sales, venture capital, architecting AI rollups at OpenOcean, and now backing searchers at Shore Capital Partners.

    We dive into how AI is transforming traditional service industries, where real opportunities (and risks) lie, how to evaluate founders, and why the best investing often happens in industries that don’t change.

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Cyrus’s operator & investor journey
    2:02 Spotting the tech gap in the traditional economy
    3:43 Data infrastructure, MySQL roots & AI rollups at OpenOcean
    5:15 Bridging VC, AI and micro-cap PE
    8:37 What AI-enabled services really are (with simple examples)
    12:21 Inside OpenOcean’s AI-enabled services thesis & deal work
    16:00 Joining Shore Capital & backing searchers and roll-ups
    18:14 How Cyrus evaluates AI risk and upside in real deals
    31:01 Moving from VC to ETA/PE and key mindset shifts
    45:46 Investing in what doesn’t change, AI as a tailwind & favorite book

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  2. How to Find 10x MOIC, 30%+ IRR Deals (Step-by-Step)

    28 november 2025 · 19 min

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    Most people in ETA quote the Stanford Search Fund Study, but almost no one looks at what investors actually earn. In this episode, we break down new Yale data from 1,192 investor-level outcomes and shows why access, not modeling, is the #1 driver of 10x MOIC, 30%+ IRR results. Lees meer

    You’ll learn why your portfolio will never be “the index”, how a tiny % of deals drive almost all returns, and what elite investors do differently to consistently catch those outliers. If you’re a searcher, investor, fund, or holdco, this is the episode that will change how you think about ETA returns forever.

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Access as the #1 driver of outperformance & episode roadmap
    0:40 Dinner scene: Stanford-slide searcher vs seasoned LP reality
    2:15 Power laws, Magnificent Seven & how a few winners drive all returns
    3:40 Yale study: 1,192 investor observations vs the Stanford search fund myth
    5:35 Segment 1: The Illusion of the Stanford Index & why no one matches it
    7:45 Segment 2: The Batting Cage Problem & why access determines investor outcomes
    9:26 Segment 3: The Two-Stage Bet, broken searches, missing winners & 10x outcomes
    15:20 Elite ETA investor tier, access hierarchy & why “spray and pray” fails
    17:51 Real odds for searchers, importance of elite access & final “respect the griffins” takeaway

    #ETA #SearchFunds #EntrepreneurshipThroughAcquisition #SelfFundedSearch #TraditionalSearch #SearchFundInvestor #SearchAcquisition #BusinessAcquisition

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  3. I Bought 20 Companies (Here's What I Learned) | Sequoya Borgman Interview

    25 november 2025 · 1 uur 3 min

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    Sequoya Borgman has quietly built one of the most interesting retail-funded private equity machines in America. Since launching Borgman Capital in 2017, he’s acquired 20 companies across 8 platforms and raised deal-by-deal from 500+ individual investors instead of institutions. Lees meer

    In this episode, we break down how he sources mostly off-market deals in second-tier cities, structures conservative, over-capitalized balance sheets, manages messy founder transitions, and keeps hundreds of retail LPs aligned while staying oversubscribed on almost every deal.

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Biggest risk in PE founder transitions and bad leadership fit
    0:44 Why the “retail private equity” model
    4:37 Working with PE as a CPA and deciding to start Borgman Capital in 2017
    6:10 How uncertainty really hits lower middle-market companies
    8:04 Biggest early mistakes: Hiring the wrong leaders and underestimating founders
    11:35 Responsibility to employees, banks and LPs
    14:12 First acquisition story
    16:24 Why Borgman chose hundreds of retail LPs instead of a fund
    20:45 Oversubscribed deals, memos, webinars and passthehat.com
    30:23 State of private equity today: Fewer deals closing, lower leverage and patient sellers
    32:34 Why Borgman fishes in second-tier cities
    36:17 Deal flow: 1,500 deals a year, 2-minute financial test and what they actually buy
    40:49 Adding 500k-1M of extra equity to protect against surprises
    54:44 Risks of raising from regular investors
    58:59 When to sell

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  4. How I Retired at 30 as a Family Office Investor (Here Are the Investments I've Made)

    20 november 2025 · 1 uur 1 min

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    Akshay Ramachandran is a retired family office investor. In his last role, Akshay was the sole analyst at a New York-based single family office, reporting directly to the portfolio manager. Together they analyzed over 60 industries using a simple strategy: buy and hold great businesses run by great management teams. In this episode, he explains his biggest winner and covers the whole story. Lees meer

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Intro
    1:43 Defining retirement: cost of living vs net worth
    3:04 Immigrant upbringing & discovering value investing
    4:40 From NYU to Wall Street & joining a family office
    7:58 Learning to analyze businesses & six key questions
    10:33 Carvana deep dive: customer experience, lending & unit economics
    17:03 Filtering noise, short reports & thinking in 10-year terms
    22:21 Studying great long-term hedge funds & idea sourcing via 13F filings
    26:19 What really matters: returns, time horizon & simple return math
    36:16 When to sell: being wrong, better opportunities & thesis playing out
    43:21 Leaving Wall Street for Buddhism & moving back to India
    48:41 Enlightenment, meditation & inner transformation
    55:21 Blending investing with spirituality, Substack & what’s next

    Discuss investment ideas with Akshay: https://substack.com/@realreturns

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  5. Buy 5 Companies as Fast as You Can (1-on-1 Advice From Fredrik Karlsson That Changed Everything)

    17 november 2025 · 12 min

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    There’s a holding company that almost no one talks about, yet it might be one of the most efficient compounding engines. Lees meer

    RÖKO owns 29 niche, traditional businesses, runs 21% margins, generates 14.5% returns on capital and keeps acquiring new companies every quarter. And they do all of this with a headquarters team of just eight people.

    In this episode, I break down the full story behind RÖKO and its 63-year-old founder Fredrik Karlsson, the former CEO of Lifco - one of Sweden’s legendary serial acquirers. After two decades mastering the art of permanent capital, Karlsson left to build his own vehicle. Six years later, RÖKO is worth billions.

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 The hidden $2B holding company with 29 businesses
    0:34 Who is Fredrik Karlsson? (Ex-Lifco CEO turned founder)
    1:40 Röko’s launch: $20-25M founder capital + $200M raised
    2:15 Portfolio breakdown: 29 companies across B2B and B2C
    3:00 Q3 2025 results: 21% margins, 14.5% ROCE
    4:46 How Röko scaled faster than any European serial acquirer
    5:41 Why Röko only buys high-margin (15%+) asset-light companies
    6:22 Sector-agnostic strategy and disciplined capital allocation
    7:07 Risks Karlsson fears most: recession and bad managers
    8:29 Röko HQ model: one Excel sheet, zero micromanagement

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  6. Ian Rickwood on AI, Private Equity, Car Wash & Real Estate Investing | Henley Group

    14 november 2025 · 58 min

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    Ian Rickwood, Founder and CEO of Henley Group, has quietly deployed $4B+ across US and Europe, built and sold food chains, and is now rolling up US car washes using AI-driven site selection. We also dive into what great operator partners look like, how to handle bad deals, and what it’s really like to build a serious firm with your spouse and kids. Lees meer

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 “Don’t give up” Ian’s core lesson on entrepreneurship and resilience
    0:34 Who is Ian Rickwood and what is Henley Group?
    1:04 The scale of Henley today: capital, sectors, and strategy
    3:02 Early career: Procter & Gamble and Pepsi
    5:02 Discovering Subway & winning the master franchise
    7:04 “More margin in the lease than in the sandwich” real estate awakening
    11:01 From 17 Subways to buying Benjys
    13:03 Scaling Benjys to 90 stores + ~200 ‘vanchises’… then getting crushed
    15:05 A tough exit and what it taught Ian
    17:04 Starting Henley from lifestyle dev to serious platform
    19:03 Surviving the GFC and pivoting the model
    21:03 A 12-year run and Henley’s track record
    22:07 Building a firm with your spouse “colors and numbers”
    25:08 Bringing the kids into the business (without ruining them)
    29:04 Dealing with bad deals and problem assets
    31:02 Geographic expansion Holland, Germany, Poland, Ireland
    33:06 Entering the US and timing the exit
    33:56 From deal-by-deal to first fund
    37:03 “It’s all about the deal” capital vs conviction
    41:20 What a perfect operator/entrepreneur partner looks like
    43:03 Reading people in a 60-minute meeting
    45:02 Why car washes? Entering a ‘boring’ but beautiful business
    47:03 The failed first platform: overpaying, over-spending, bad sites
    48:00 Rebuilding from scratch: launching Aquasonic the right way
    49:02 Data, AI and picking car wash sites
    52:05 The most expensive beliefs Ian has changed
    55:11 Big-picture lessons keep learning, don’t give up, pivot fast
    57:17 Favorite books and how Ian unwinds
    57:47 Closing thoughts and wrap-up

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  7. How to Win Deals Over Private Equity (Even if They Pay 10-20% More)

    12 november 2025 · 24 min

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    One of the most underrated skills in business acquisitions. Beyond financial models and deal structures, many great acquisitions happen because buyers know how to connect with sellers on a human level. Lees meer

    #BusinessAcquisitions #DueDiligence #MergersAndAcquisitions #HoldCoBuilders
    #ListeningSkills #DealMaking #EntrepreneurshipThroughAcquisition #PrivateEquity #BusinessBuying #SMBacquisition

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 The overlooked M&A superpower
    4:55 Warren Buffett & Mrs. B: a deal built on trust
    8:04 Shopify lesson: empathy that wins founders
    11:54 David Cote at Honeywell: listening as diagnostic precision
    15:47 How to practice it: questions, plant walks, and strategic silence

  8. The Private Equity Bubble? | Inside a Private Equity Firm Built for What Comes Next

    9 november 2025 · 1 uur

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    My guest today is Joel Mathew, Head of Originations at Woodson Equity. We discuss how his entrepreneurial path led him into private equity, Woodson’s “inch wide, mile deep” focus on diversified industrials and business services, and why they favor hands-on, control deals. Joel shares a live carve-out playbook, how he sources more than a 1,000 deals a year, the first-100-days operating cadence, culture as an edge, off-market vs. banked processes, and the mindset required to win in the lower middle market. Lees meer

    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Intro
    5:03 Focus: diversified industrials & business services
    6:27 Hold period philosophy
    7:07 Target size & screens
    8:04 Why pursue larger deals
    9:41 Value creation beyond capital; control investing
    11:08 Hands-on operations (presence on the floor)
    14:16 Stewardship playbook: cost discipline, systems, people
    15:24 Beyond the P&L: culture & morale
    16:18 Weighing purpose vs. numbers
    21:42 Factory-floor insights you won’t see in a data room
    25:48 Why deal flow is “easy” (but a lot of work)
    29:48 Bigger vs. smaller deals
    31:44 Seller types: family, PE, and carve-outs
    33:50 Winning trust with founders not yet selling
    38:02 Where the best off-market deals originate
    39:10 Time allocation & focus blocks
    41:05 Best ROI: banker processes vs. proprietary
    43:40 Deals that die… and come back
    44:51 What’s exciting now: volatility & tariffs
    47:12 Patterns of elite operators
    49:24 Staying sharp & never settling
    53:16 War stories from the trenches
    55:15 What’s next for Woodson (2-3 years)
    57:08 “No bad deals, only bad prices”

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  9. The One System That Scaled from $3.5M to a 15-Company Portfolio (Sid Jashnani)

    4 november 2025 · 1 uur 11 min

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    How Sid Jashnani scaled his firm into a portfolio of 15 companies and $77 million in revenue. If you’re an investor or builder, this is a masterclass in turning chaos into compounding cash flows. Lees meer

    We discuss:
    0:00 Intro: from systems integrator to 15-company HoldCo
    0:34 Plateau at $4M: what wasn’t working
    3:22 Discovering EOS: why it clicked and how to start
    10:26 Owning product lines: vertical integration and moat
    16:59 Rolling EOS across companies: the non-negotiable cadence
    18:05 Before vs after EOS: escaping firefighting and gaining control
    24:02 Accountability Chart: firing yourself from Ops the right way
    29:05 Hiring via scorecard: finding the operator who can deliver
    37:20 Eight Cash Drivers: terms, inventory discipline, margin expansion
    49:02 Portfolio snapshot: 15 companies and current metrics
    52:44 Build vs buy: when to create your own product
    1:03:00 Raising a fund: de-risking and scaling the platform
    1:06:54 Partnering with PE: timing, structures, and trade-offs

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  10. 7 Acquisitions Done — Buying Businesses on “Easy Mode” in 2025 (here’s why)

    31 oktober 2025 · 33 min

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    Buying a small business and raising the equity shouldn’t take a roadshow. Lees meer

    In this episode, Donza Worden (ex–institutional PE, Clear Peak Capital) and Travis Jamison (multi-exit founder turned investor) break down how CapitalPad makes both sides easier:
    1) curated deal flow for accredited investors;
    2) and a streamlined path to capital for independent sponsors/searchers.

    We cover:
    00:00 Intro — making buying businesses & raising capital easier
    00:27 Danza’s path: IB/PE → Clear Peak → the CapitalPad problem
    02:01 Travis’s path: founder → exits → discovering SMB deals
    03:35 Why SMB acquisitions: return studies & the access gap
    05:11 The marketplace solution: deal flow + right-sized checks
    06:45 Build & launch timeline; choosing curation over “open”
    07:46 Fees & alignment: investors pay (20% carry + 1.5% close), sponsors free
    10:36 Curation filters: leverage, concentration, valuation, tough industries
    15:13 Do good deals fund? Understanding complexity & platform growth
    16:51 Searcher flow: teaser, VDR, interview, listing, go-live
    18:02 Investor experience: NDAs, Q&A, allocations, SPV mechanics
    19:54 Post-close: reporting discipline & early outcomes
    21:42 Portfolio design: illiquidity + diversify (expect some failures)
    22:45 Market temperature: pricing sanity, avoiding froth
    23:55 Common searcher mistakes; why post-LOI matters
    27:33 Beyond capital: better governance
    31:01 No pay-for-priority access; keeping incentives aligned
    32:14 Roadmap: expert LP involvement & operator support

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  11. How to Build a 7-Figure Company from Scratch (with Mac Lackey)

    27 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 5 min

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    My guest today is Mac Lackey, an entrepreneur who has founded and sold six companies, each with 7-and 8-figure exits - including two back-to-back internet businesses during the dot-com boom. Lees meer

    In this episode, Mac breaks down the exact mindset and playbook that helped him turn businesses into life-changing exits. He shares the story of advising one company who was struggling to sell for $25 million… and guiding them to restructure and close for $42 million in cash just months later.

    We discussed:
    0:00 Who is Mac Lackey + Spanish football club owner
    0:34 Early life: football-first, scholarship, brief pro career
    1:28 First company
    3:06 Early internet wave (1998 eight-figure exit in mid-20s)
    5:24 Post-exit: acquirer IPOs (’99); starts a football media company
    9:08 Building the largest non-televised football content shop:14-month sale (2000) during dot-com crash
    12:20 The “strategic value vs financials” lesson and buyer’s lens
    20:14 Engineering a bidding war in London; fast LOI from competitors
    29:02 Third company: interim CEO, roll-ups, misaligned risk appetites and sells stake (which later becomes a nine-figure outcome)
    33:23 Life design shift: optimizing for freedom of time after first child
    48:08 Exit DNA: optionality, 10–100x ROI examples; common fixes (founder dependency, buyer math, estate/tax prep “two years + 1 day”)
    1:02:52 Bet on people

    Reach out to Mac: https://maclackey.com/mikk/

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  12. How Builders Build Wealth That Lasts (and Mistakes to Avoid)

    25 oktober 2025 · 13 min

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    You’ve spent years building something from nothing — finding deals, operating, and growing real value. But what happens after success? Once liquidity arrives, how do you protect your wealth, make it work for you, and ensure it endures for generations? Lees meer

    In this episode, we explore the mindset and structure behind lasting wealth — the difference between being a first-generation builder and a third-generation steward.

    We break down the three pillars of lasting wealth:
    0:00 The hidden question after success: what do you do with the money?
    1:30 Builders vs. stewards: different skill sets, same discipline
    2:00 How legacy families preserve wealth for generations
    2:30 "From rice field to rice field"
    4:00 The simple fundamentals wealthy families follow
    4:20 Why complexity sells, but simplicity endures
    5:45 The two-bucket philosophy: preservation and compounding
    6:01 Pillar #1: Conservative fixed income (your stability base)
    6:40 Story: The entrepreneur who lost half his fortune chasing returns
    8:16 Pillar #2: High income strategy (living off cash flow)
    9:12 Example: The Midwestern family that compounds quietly
    9:15 Pillar #3: Long-term growth (own great companies for decades)
    10:05 Compounding only works if you let it
    10:59 Consumption vs. compounding: every generation’s choice
    11:45 Structure, simplicity, and temperament in wealth management
    12:00 Can you manage yourself as well as you managed your company?

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  13. 4 Portfolio Companies and The Gritty Playbook of Value Investing | Reggie Pryor Jr.

    21 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 4 min

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    Value-driven investor and turnaround specialist Reggie Pryor Jr. (Founder, Pryor LLC) breaks down his simple but relentless playbook: buy what others overlook and rebuild it into a durable cash flow machine. We go from his first mentor (textile legend Jimmy Gibbs) to reading Graham & Dodd, using collateral to get started, and why he rarely sells, preferring to borrow against assets instead. Lees meer

    Timestamps
    0:00 Reggie Pryor Jr. and his “buy overlooked, rebuild cash flow” playbook
    0:50 Wofford College and mentor Jimmy Gibbs
    3:57 The lesson: just ask (how Reggie earned the mentorship)
    5:16 Running his father’s company; learning by doing
    11:05 Reframing the strategy: rebuild rather than break apart
    12:42 Pryor LLC’s four pillars (Diversified, Global, CRE, Capital)
    13:30 Why he rarely sells
    15:02 Portfolio overview; value lens across categories
    16:48 Case study: Highway 9 real-estate deal
    19:59 Adding 265k of value by acquiring a state-owned strip for $12,000
    27:05 Where private deal flow comes from
    27:57 Moretex origins (founded 1908) and how he stumbled onto the opportunity
    31:10 Hidden kicker: next door 70 million dollar stadium
    32:12 Taking over Moretex
    33:50 Lessons from doing the deal and showing up personally
    34:13 First 90 days: key hires (maintenance, SOPs); no salesperson for 31 years
    35:52 Vertical integration: buying the pulverizer supplier
    38:00 Tariff tailwinds plus all USA inputs boost demand
    38:21 Oldest chemical plant in the Southeast
    41:37 Brand and formula value
    42:56 Why no auction? Family context, timing, and trust
    44:13 Mission: fix and own Moretex long term
    45:44 Building a mentor bench: the names and why it matters
    47:02 Three “secrets”
    48:09 How networks actually compound (and how to start)
    51:04 Reggie works seven days a week, 365 days a year
    52:59 On happiness, overwhelm, and tradeoffs
    55:49 Why saving American manufacturing is personal
    58:33 How picky is he? On saying yes, triaging inbound, new bets
    1:00:39 Why do the podcast? On signal, diligen…

  14. How They Turned $8 Million into $450 Million (by Following THIS #1 SIMPLE Habit)

    19 oktober 2025 · 13 min

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    The greatest builders in history share one habit that changed their fortunes. Lees meer

    You’ll hear how a single paragraph led Munger to a $500 million investment, how Jeff Bezos started Amazon because of one statistic in an article, and how Elon Musk saw an opportunity through the absence of information.

    This episode is about building your mental warehouse of ideas, training your intuition, and developing the kind of insight that compounds for life.

    Timestamps
    0:00 Intro: The compounding power of reading

    0:49 Investor quotes on reading

    2:04 A real competitive advantage

    2:32 A 50-year habit and the $500M outcome

    3:25 The Tenecco idea and the $8M to $80M jump

    5:52 Jeff Bezos: One stat that launched Amazon

    6:09 Morris Chang (TSMC): A textbook insight that rewired an industry

    6:36 Elon Musk: no Mars plan

    6:50 Dietrich Mateschitz

    7:11 Bill Gates: The Altair 8800 moment

    7:25 Phil Knight: Japanese trade finance to Nike’s supply chain

    8:55 Naval Ravikant on lifelong reading

    10:27 $8M to $80M to $500M

    10:50 “5 to 10 great insights in a life”

    11:40 The 29x BYD outcome

    11:48 How reading trains intuition: “You can almost smell it”

    12:22 The ultimate unfair advantage of reading

    13:00 Final challenge: Are you reading like your life depends on it?

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  15. How to Build Proprietary Deal Flow? (15 Off-Market Acquisitions)

    16 oktober 2025 · 29 min

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    Peter Lang has done 22 acquisitions (mostly off-market). Grant spent a full day at his masterclass—and it was the most valuable single-day M&A professional development he has ever had. Most people share 101-level fluff; Peter was selective about who he let in the room, so he went straight to 202/303-level tactics: Lees meer

    - a 128-question pre-LOI audit,
    - “pre-diligence,”
    - risk registers,
    - and first-call bonding that actually wins deals.

    During the session he even had them cold DM a business owner about selling - someone in the room even booked a meeting before lunch.

    Timestamps
    00:00 One-day M&A Lab
    01:41 The scary 3-5 year goal (Fund II at $50M, 5× MOIC ambition)
    03:00 The math behind 5×: low entry multiples, modest growth, sane leverage
    06:47 Scaling a bigger fund by doubling down on winners via add-ons
    07:49 “Every business problem can be solved through M&A”
    09:58 Most underrated outreach
    11:12 The only goal of the first call
    12:55 The 128-question pre-LOI audit
    16:24 “Pre-diligence” naming hack to get real docs before LOI
    18:54 Three-phase diligence
    21:55 Winning competitive processes by showing deeper prep
    22:30 How pre-LOI depth prevents post-LOI drama
    23:32 Selling = buying in reverse
    25:54 Huge ROI on practitioner-level M&A education
    27:02 Why his big goal now feels closer
    28:39 Why Grant’s clarity matters in deals

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    This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

  16. Lessons from 100+ Acquisitions You Can Implement TODAY | Joe Liemandt

    12 oktober 2025 · 29 min

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    In this deep dive, we unpack the operating philosophy of Joe Liemandt - builder of Trilogy Software and ESW Capital, and now the force behind Alpha School - including lessons from 100+ acquisitions. Liemandt became a billionaire by buying sleepy software assets and turning them into cash machines, vanished from public view for years, then re-emerged with a mission to rebuild systems from first principles. This episode isn’t about education - it’s about how great operators think. Lees meer

    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro: Who is Joe Liemandt & why this episode
    01:16 The real job of a boss: raise the bar
    03:25 Reality-distortion & Trilogy’s elite culture
    06:44 Expect more than they expect of themselves
    08:46 ESW Capital’s “insane” bet: buying legacy software
    12:47 Pricing power: why most companies undercharge
    14:33 Value-based pricing: the ESW playbook
    16:15 Pricing moats
    17:56 The real bottleneck: motivation vs information
    19:48 Hiring for fire
    21:27 Inner scorecard
    23:12 Information is commodity; motivation is scarcity
    24:45 Leaders as motivators
    26:10 Systems that reward curiosity, not compliance
    27:06 Closing framework: light the fire
    27:55 “Customers have the answers” - sit with end users

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  17. How We Bought 27+ Businesses and Built a $1 Billion HoldCo at 39 | Steve Carroll Interview

    7 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 11 min

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    Steve Carroll is the CEO & co-founder of Kelso Industries, a national MEP services platform uniting HVAC, mechanical, plumbing, and electrical companies. Lees meer

    In just a few years, Kelso went from a gritty, nearly-broke first acquisition to 29 acquisitions and $1B+ in revenue.
    Steve breaks down the bruises and the blueprint: why their first year almost killed the business (including a single job that wiped out a year of profit), the switch from “buy and replace” to a partner-and-keep-the-owner model, how they finance growth without overpaying, and the operating system (recruiting, cash, WIP discipline) that lets local brands scale without losing their soul.

    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    00:34 Steve’s background
    01:56 Early thesis: from marketing & home services lead gen to HVAC focus
    03:54 Bootstrapping experiments, agencies, pest control—what worked/what didn’t
    04:58 Personal runway & the real cost of chasing deals while employed
    06:00 Broken deals, travel, and swallowing $100k–$200k before first close
    06:16 Meet the co-founder: lifelong friend Steve Nicholson; Kelso name origin
    08:32 First near-deal dies; deciding to swing at the largest SBA-sized deal
    10:26 Finding a commercial HVAC business in Arizona
    18:23 Survival year: no new acquisitions, just fixing ops and cash
    19:13 The unlock: partnering with an Idaho operator who stays on, not exits
    20:21 Bringing in a PE partner (Peterson Partners): why working capital blew up the SBA plan
    24:26 How the PE check actually changed things (and what it didn’t)
    29:32 Scale after deal #2: ~$40–50M revenue; raising the bar to $30–40M targets
    30:50 Handing Arizona to Poncho so Steve can live on planes finding partners
    33:22 Hitting $10M EBITDA in 2 years and setting the $1B revenue goal
    34:32 Reaching $1B TTM four years after launch
    36:25 Structure: Kelso buys 100%, owners stay, roll equity, 3-year earnouts
    37:48 Why this is a relationship business (and why replacing owners destroys value)
    43:10 Liquidity: horizon to public markets or n…

  18. How I Completed 12+ Acquisitions and Still Built a New Roll-Up

    4 oktober 2025 · 53 min

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    My guest today is Nick Hatchka, founder of Cub Investments, which has completed over a dozen acquisitions. Nick is now building a regional platform of generator dealers and service businesses in California alongside his operating partner, Dylan Ferguson. We discuss his journey: Lees meer

    - to independent sponsorship,
    - lessons from 12+ acquisitions,
    - what makes a good business model,
    - partnering with operators,
    - and buying seller-dependent companies.

    We cover:
    0:00 Nick Hatchka on 12+ acquisitions and a California generator platform
    0:35 Background: MIT → McKinsey → 2 startups → Fortune 500 clean tech
    1:54 Founding Cub (2016): SBA and personal capital for the first deal
    2:49 Scaling: 12+ acquisitions across interior plants and landscaping, later divested
    4:09 New platform thesis: generators in California and why the model is capital intensive
    5:27 Investing focus: market and model selection over operator heroics
    8:16 Capital discipline: self-funded pace vs raising outside capital
    12:03 Generator business explained: sell, install, maintain, and test backup power (monthly, quarterly, annual PMs)
    20:11 Partnering with Dylan Ferguson: 20-30 interviews and complementary skills
    25:54 First acquisition Conti: sourced direct, LOI-to-close ~6 months, closed Jan 2024
    28:16 Post-close playbook: replace owner-operator and rebuild systems for scale
    33:39 Early lessons: grew fast to replace 4–5 seller hats and would build recruiting pipeline earlier
    34:38 Results: revenue ~$3M → ~$6M and team 7 → ~14
    42:13 Second acquisition PowerGen: 5–6 months later with larger C&I footprint in Bay Area and Sacramento
    45:04 Capital and operating philosophy: seller note fixed ~8 years, target ≥3x DSCR, keep strong cash reserves and focus on service quality
    51:32 Book and wrap: The Science of Success and expanding the circle of competence

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  19. How to Raise $450 Million at 31 with No Track Record (and Do 90+ Deals) | Urs Wietlisbach Research

    30 september 2025 · 26 min

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    Imagine being in your early 30s, launching a private equity fund, and raising $450 million for your first fund. (No track record. No rich father or uncle.) Lees meer

    Urs Wietlisbach, one of the three co-founders, led client relationships and fundraising, pushed proactive deal sourcing and thematic research, and kept the team focused on pensioners as the ultimate client.

    You'll learn:
    00:00 Why this episode & who it’s for
    00:36 From “stocks & bonds are boring” to real assets; early AUM context
    01:25 Independence as the goal; raising $450M with no track record
    02:20 Three complementary founders is better than one “perfect” entrepreneur
    03:12 Leaving Goldman: the coffee invite, risk, and family pushback
    04:35 “Fill your backpack”: learn aggressively, then have the courage to leave
    05:43 The costly fundraising mistake: paying an upfront “rainmaker” (and why never again)
    06:40 Why they IPO’d in 2006: talent, direct deals, and Asian credibility
    10:05 Operating public, thinking private: ignore the ticker, focus long term
    10:30 “We are responsible for dreams”: pensions as the true client
    11:05 Proactive diligence: working 12–36 months before a sale is announced
    12:05 Urs’s role today: fundraising, client relationships, and a 100+ person marketing team
    12:45 The PE model now: ~53% equity / 47% debt; returns from business building
    13:35 Edge vs. competitors: thematic sourcing and pre-work win auctions
    14:40 Example: German deal log, 582 days of prep before the bank book
    16:05 Returns stack vs. mega-peers; tailwinds, management being everything
    17:13 Four thematic teams: Healthcare, IT, Goods/Products, Services
    18:00 Healthcare thesis in action: U.S. physiotherapy roll-up playbook
    19:10 From 100 to 600+ clinics; EBITDA from ~$38M to ~$110M in four years
    19:56 Why PE has outperformed publics: information, incentives, not leverage
    21:00 Compensation design: “eat what you kill” + shared carry across teams
    21:50 Hiring from industry, not just finance; sweat equity for managers
    22:40 Heav…

  20. 9 Figure Exit How I Built and Sold to Private Equity (Alexis Sikorsky Interview)

    27 september 2025 · 1 uur 19 min

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    My guest today is Alexis Sikorsky. An entrepreneur who bootstrapped, scaled, and ultimately sold a company in a 9-figure exit. Lees meer

    We cover:
    00:00 Intro
    01:36 Who is Alexis Sikorsky
    02:03 Early entrepreneurship
    03:59 First ISP & internet café in West Africa
    05:12 Conflict with government & partner’s death
    07:05 Buys training company
    07:43 1999–2000: founding the software dev firm
    09:20 Buying assets of Logical Access
    09:37 On failures & lessons (politics, client concentration)
    12:35 “I can’t be employed” mindset / drive to continue
    13:06 2008 peak: €11–12M revenue, €3M profit
    14:31 “The grind” years: cuts, mortgages, survival
    15:17 Private equity calls
    16:35 The very optimistic 2-year plan
    17:22 The deal: ~11x EBITDA, 85% cash now / 15% later
    18:59 Final personal exit; later strategic sale (undisclosed 9 figures)
    20:41 “If I had 2023 wisdom in 2003…”
    21:22 How much runway to hold; agility for black swans
    22:23 Fear, resilience, and hiring “good people” too late
    24:59 Personality under stress; heart attack joke
    28:07 Why post-PE period was the best
    28:13 “Did you sell to the right people?”
    28:29 Strengths & weaknesses
    30:00 Life after exit
    34:31 What retirement actually felt like
    35:01 Happiness, safety, safari/diving; minimal “stuff”
    39:52 Founders often don’t know their own company
    40:52 Know your numbers monthly
    43:28 “Fire yourself” from most tasks as CEO
    44:51 “What’s your number?” conversation
    45:37 Grow to sell vs. morphing into a bank
    47:50 Growth vs. lifestyle businesses
    50:16 Execute phase cadence
    51:08 Best growth levers (context-dependent)
    52:03 M&A focus for this audience
    52:17 Why M&A is the fast/cheap shortcut
    54:01 Leverage math in euros (LBO example)
    56:08 PE myths
    1:01:05 Negotiate your own contract & non-compete
    1:01:23 Managing time during diligence
    1:02:21 Readiness test: 1-week no-phone vacation
    1:02:37 How to diligence PE (ask for 5, call the others)
    1:06:59 What buyers saw that he didn’t
    1:10:41 Why founders often under-sell
    1:10:55 Nominal EBIT…

  21. He Bought 4 Small Businesses with ZERO Finance Experience (Nikolai Dimitrov Interview)

    23 september 2025 · 41 min

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    Nikolai Dimitrov went from pro football to building Unity Investment Partnership, where he buys small, reliable, everyday businesses, paying 3–4× cash flow with seller-aligned structures, and has closed 4 acquisitions so far. Lees meer

    We cover his rocky start (including a Facebook group against him), four acquisitions, why “terms more important than price,” post-acquisition reporting, incentives, and how culture and a real CEO will power Unity’s next stage.

    We'll cover:
    00:00 Intro: Who is Nikolai Dimitrov & Unity Investment Partnership
    00:26 From pro football to acquisitions: quitting and what came next
    02:04 Why buying companies: passion, team skills from sport
    06:22 First strategy: veterinary roll-up
    10:36 12-18 months with no deal: iterate, don’t quit
    11:50 First acquisition: 4× cash flow; 25% down, 75% seller-financed
    13:35 Year 1 reality: building reporting from scratch in a mom-and-pop
    14:53 “Terms over price”: negotiating when you’re the only buyer
    17:34 Closing the first deal: proof the model works in CEE
    18:34 Seller pipeline tailwind: retiring baby boomers in small business
    21:35 Raising from LPs: doctors, lawyers, real estate pros
    22:50 Second acquisition; time allocation across businesses
    23:33 Third deal: dental clinic
    25:15 Incentives and the shift from deal-making to asset management
    26:58 What a “good deal” looks like; buying right at low multiples
    32:31 Growing the portfolio: sector differences, ops cadence
    33:59 Diversified vs focused holdco: trade-offs in reporting & speed
    35:10 Holdco vs fund: why avoid a limited-life vehicle (for now)
    37:55 Best advice: a few winners drive returns (Buffett lesson)

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  22. I Raised $11.7M To Back 13 Self-Funded Searchers | Grant Hensel Interview

    20 september 2025 · 51 min

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    Grant Hensel has started 10 companies (7 failed, 2 sold, 1 scaled), bought a business his wife now operates, and then got obsessed with backing self-funded searchers. He’s the founder of Entrepreneurial Capital, raising ~$11M to invest in “cockroach” SMBs at 3–5x earnings alongside gritty owner-operators. Lees meer

    If you’re buying or backing boring, profitable businesses, this is a playbook episode.

    You'll learn:
    00:00 Grant’s path: 10 starts, 2 exits, 1 scaled; now backing self-funded searchers
    00:32 Grant’s background & living the “buy vs. build” debate
    02:26 Buying a business for his wife to run (4 LOIs, funny diligence misses)
    05:24 First 90 days: installing EOS, weekly scorecard, real traction
    06:52 Portfolio before the fund (one built, one bought)
    07:59 Holdco vs. minority investing; why operator quality dominates
    09:32 Why self-funded search is a built-in grit test
    10:14 From personal checks to raising a fund (organic evolution)
    12:23 The four screens: low concentration, low capex, low cyclicality, history of profits
    13:53 Cyclicality lesson: cheap isn’t worth macro sensitivity
    15:52 Fund timeline: Oct ’24 idea → Feb ’25 start → Jul ’25 close
    16:39 Fundraising tactics: “ask for advice,” webinars, soft-circle snowball
    20:27 Looking at deals while raising; confidence once ~$5M soft-circled
    21:16 How Grant picks winners: on-site diligence, non-spreadsheet reality
    22:51 Sourcing searchers: Searcher.com, webinars, “This Week in ETA” newsletter
    26:15 Day-to-day now: LOI diligence, marketing, advisor feedback (pre-first deal)
    27:17 Deployment pace: 13–18 deals over 2–3 years (~1 every other month)
    27:38 Deal flow volume: ~1 LOI/day; be ultra-selective
    28:03 The five pre-LOI seller questions (and why they matter)
    32:26 What to buy (and avoid): home/B2B services, light mfg (with chops); no e-comm/retail/restaurants
    33:58 The real investor value-add: resilience through the ugly middle
    35:18 Roll-up skepticism; single-asset cash flow is better than multiple-expansion bets
    37:…

  23. 60+ Search Fund Investments: What Industries Excite Him The Most TODAY

    16 september 2025 · 28 min

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    A deep-dive on the operator-first path to buying a small business. Told through the lessons of investor-turned-operator Tim Ludwig (60+ portfolio companies; now co-runs Majority Search). Lees meer

    Learn how search funds actually work, which industries to invest in, which searchers to back, why EQ beats IQ in a first-time CEO, and the exact playbook from LOI → close → the first 100 days.

    What you’ll learn:
    00:00 Intro - buy, run, and compound
    02:03 Why study Tim & the origins of search funds
    03:40 Tim’s path: from MBA case study to investor
    05:18 60+ investments, market gets crowded, lessons learned
    06:54 Flipping to buyer/operator; control & alignment
    07:59 Search fund 101: traditional vs. self-funded vs. committed capital
    10:54 Why search funds work: hungry operator × resilient business
    12:08 First-time CEO profile: EQ is better than IQ, sales, coachability
    14:28 What to buy (and avoid): the “easy to run, hard to break” box + weird niches
    16:56 from LOI to close: diligence, QoE, papering the deal, seller roll/seller note
    19:03 First 100 days: make payroll, listen, cadence & KPIs
    20:05 Months 3-12: hire a sales leader, CRM, pipeline & talk tracks
    21:56 Post-close priorities: top accounts, upgrade tools, data culture
    23:03 Returns math: 4× equity without multiple expansion
    24:15 Hold vs. sell; should the seller stay?
    24:58 How big is the opportunity? supply/demand & off-market
    26:08 Bezos vs. Musk test: singles % doubles are better than moonshots
    26:53 Final advice & next steps
    27:26 Outro

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  24. How I Left PE, Bought 2 SaaS Businesses (Raising a Fund Next?) | Donza Worden Interview

    12 september 2025 · 37 min

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    Former institutional investor Donza Worden (co-founder, Clear Peak Capital) breaks down why many private equity pros aren’t truly investors—and what he’s doing differently as an independent sponsor who closed two platforms in year one (IT services & vertical SaaS). Lees meer

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro & who Donza is (2 platforms, Capitalpad)
    00:25 The spicy tweet: “Most PE investors aren’t really investors”
    00:56 Why PE ≠ investor training: incentives & slow feedback loops
    02:24 Donza’s origin story: island → banking → PE
    04:27 The hangar conversation that changed his life
    06:05 PE associate programs, fund velocity & early reps
    07:27 Investment philosophy setup (industry → company → price)
    08:31 Building conviction: Five Forces, 2–4 thesis pillars, price last
    10:50 What he kept/ditched from institutional PE before launching
    12:02 Why 2024 to launch Clear Peak; co-founding with Luke
    14:55 Model choice: independent sponsor now, fund optionality later
    16:24 Deal #1: cruise/maritime maintenance software—core thesis
    18:10 Capital reality on Deal #1: family offices & cold-start relationships
    18:58 Deal #2: faster process; staged diligence & value-creation session
    21:08 Operating the portfolio: GTM at IT Sync; financial visibility at Entara
    23:55 Back to market for Deal #3; discipline on timing
    24:08 Highest-ROI levers post-close (company-specific, no cookie cutter)
    25:17 Choosing investors: family offices vs. SBIC; red flags
    27:20 Superpower & weakness: depth of work vs. time trade-offs
    29:33 Taking risk: leaving institutional PE; AI’s coming impact
    31:18 Hardest skill shift: decision-making rests with you
    32:16 Hours & lifestyle now vs. institutional PE
    33:12 Happiness & autonomy; what “winning” (MOIC/IRR) looks like
    34:18 What he’s studying now (IT services, vertical SaaS, mental models)
    35:12 Practicing intellectual curiosity; inviting dissent
    36:22 Favorite book: Behave (Robert Sapolsky)
    37:15 Wrap-up & future check-in

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  25. This 70/30 Model Leads to Highest Returns

    10 september 2025 · 6 min

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    I spoke with an operator who sold his own company - then turned around and bought eight more. His playbook is specific, bank-friendly, and built for growth. In this episode, I’m unpacking the lessons from those deals: Lees meer

    00:00 Intro: From exit to 8 acquisitions
    00:26 Portfolio averagE: 4.7x paid; $4.1M EBITDA
    00:52 Structure banks love: 70% now, 30% later; owner reinvests
    01:18 Growth thesis: target 5x MOIC + “second bite” bigger than first
    03:30 Value creation: capital allocation, incentives, team energy
    05:31 Deal cadence & outlook: 1–2 deals/per year; potential portfolio sale

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  26. How I Bought 7 Businesses and Built a $34M Holding Company | Doug Lepisto Interview

    8 september 2025 · 52 min

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    Operator-first, place-based PE done right. In this episode, Doug Lepisto (co-founder of Sleeping Giant Capital) breaks down how his team backed 7 searchers to buy 7 local companies, deploying a $34M Fund I and gearing up for Fund II. Lees meer

    We unpack the full playbook—how they source in-region deals, why they bet on the operator first, and the exact 10-10-10 searcher economics.

    Doug shares how they structure boards, protect the downside, and build long-term, hold-forever companies with a university-powered talent pipeline.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro (Sleeping Giant overview: place-based, West MI, Fund I $34M)
    00:33 Doug’s background
    04:41 Sleeping Giant timeline
    10:32 Buffett, Brent Beshore, ETA/search, university model
    13:42 Fundraising journey (easiest no, institutions vs HNW/FOs, strategy)
    16:13 Ideal targets (shift to higher-quality $3 to $5M EBITDA businesses)
    18:14 First acquisition setup
    19:29 First acquisition story
    21:41 Deal size (larger than initial target)
    22:05 Seller rollover & post-close roles (case by case)
    23:14 Operating lessons (protect downside, boards, emotions; big deal are better than many small)
    26:25 Pipeline & selectivity (LOIs as the key KPI)
    28:48 Operators-first vs deal-first (why back people)
    30:32 The 8-week Acquire Course (1:1 coaching format)
    34:56 Course throughput & outcomes
    35:57 Searcher economics (10/10/10 vesting, salary/bonus)
    37:58 Portfolio update & headwinds (tariffs, organic growth systems, board design)
    40:27 Fund II focus (double down on place, build an enduring machine)
    42:10 Defining long-term (25-year term, durable niches like metal components)
    43:38 Liquidity in a long fund
    46:04 Scalability (2–3 CEOs at a time; replication in other regions)
    47:29 Place-based investing philosophy & macro trends
    50:51 Quickfire (best advice and favorite book)

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  27. How to Build a $30M HVAC HoldCo (4 Acquisitions and Next Goal $150M)

    5 september 2025 · 44 min

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    At 42, Sam Turner had the title, the pay, the lake view in Switzerland — but he was not happy. So he engineered his exit, just as COVID nuked his industry. Lees meer

    Instead of crawling back, he jumped into buying gritty local businesses. His first deal nearly sank him — wrong sector, thin margins, the people piece ignored. Most would quit. Sam doubled down, bought better, and then built a division from scratch that hit $3.66m in year one with double-digit margins.

    Today it’s five companies, ~$30m revenue, and a clear target: $150m by 2033.

    This conversation is the real operator’s playbook:
    - how to know when it’s time to jump,
    - what to buy and why,
    - the hybrid non-integration model that actually works,
    - the communications cadence that calms teams and customers,
    - and the unsexy habits that compound.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro: who Sam Turner is (ex-CFO → UK SMB/HVAC acquirer)
    01:12 - Why leave a high-paying CFO job for blue-collar businesses?
    01:36 - Dissatisfaction: politics, travel, no autonomy, family priorities
    03:10 - How he made it happen: engineered exit & planning window
    04:54 - Choosing ETA/search over property (people-focused)
    05:49 - Didn’t pick an industry until after starting the search
    05:54 - Research approach: 15–30 sectors explored
    07:52 - Acquisition criteria: large & fragmented, multiple arbitrage, non-tech
    09:54 - Capital model: deal-by-deal, retain majority equity
    10:43 - Strengths & weaknesses
    14:04 - Timeline & where the group is today (first deal Dec 2021; 4 buys + 1 organic; ~$30m rev; 2033 target $150m)
    17:31 - First acquisition story
    23:39 - What he buys now: $3–12m revenue, ~10% EBITDA, commercial/built-environment
    25:14 - Why buy multiple quickly: diversify operational risk
    28:16 - Post-acq philosophy: no full integration; hybrid model, common tech
    32:51 - Why #2 and #3 worked: better margins, owner transition, heavy communication
    36:58 - Organic playbook: hire industry COO, spin up division, recruit A-players
    39:33 - Organic results: ~$3.…

  28. Buying 500+ Businesses and Turning $100k Into $10B - Fernando De Leon of Leon Capital Group

    3 september 2025 · 31 min

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    What happens when a holding company thinks like an immigrant, moves like an entrepreneur, and plays the long game with permanent capital? In this episode, we unpack the operating system of Fernando De Leon and Leon Capital Group—a family holding company that conceives, develops, owns, and operates businesses across real estate, financial services, healthcare, and technology. Lees meer

    You’ll learn:

    00:00 - Intro & Leon Capital Group overview
    02:26 - Border-childhood & immigrant mindset
    05:24 - Turning labor into equity at 14
    07:21 - Harvard takeaways & Goldman “pipes of money”
    12:37 - Four questions to decode deal headlines
    13:17 - Move to Dallas (2003) & flood-map/option flip
    16:00 - 2008 crisis: speed over perfection; spouse’s push
    17:21 - Going all-in 200×; distressed loans & 24-condo flip
    18:04 - Broker flywheel & long-term loyalty
    21:42 - PropCo/OpCo playbook → to 265 dental clinics
    25:02 - Build it in-house: Patient Capital financing
    25:51 - Cut out middlemen: insurance brokerage
    26:41 - Crexi origin story: data, auctions, listings
    28:38 - Wrap-up & next-episode teaser

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  29. How I Bought 20+ Small Farms and Built a $350M HoldCo in My 30s | Jack McCarthy Interview

    27 augustus 2025 · 39 min

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    Jack McCarthy, co-founder & CEO of Goldleaf Farming, shares how he’s building one of the largest specialty-crop platforms in the U.S. We cover why almonds & pistachios, raising $250M+, buying 20+ farms, and scaling to ~12,000 acres. Lees meer

    Jack explains valuing farms by cash flow (not price per acre), managing water/climate risk, navigating commodity cycles, aligning with long-term LPs, and keeping leverage low.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:00:28 What Goldleaf is building
    00:01:26 Jack’s background & meeting co-founder Brandon
    00:04:06 Wednesdays at the almond mill; lean-startup exploration
    00:06:26 Pivot from agtech to owning farms; meeting Brandon; first investors
    00:09:48 Buying the first farm (Fall 2017)
    00:10:35 Lessons from the first acquisition
    00:14:10 Why almonds & pistachios
    00:15:51 How they value farms (cash-flow/DCF mindset)
    00:18:10 Capital raising phases (friends & family → family offices)
    00:19:15 Alignment with LPs; team equity & structure
    00:23:09 Diversified LP base (sub-$1M checks)
    00:25:47 Capital structure: lower debt, higher equity
    00:28:01 Biggest risks: water & growing conditions
    00:29:09 Selectivity: ~1,400 farms reviewed; 27 bought
    00:30:12 Early mistakes; refocusing on water/quality
    00:32:02 Jack’s advice: constant improvement; long slog; do it
    00:34:12 Personal Q: family (4 kids)
    00:34:35 Culture & benefits: family-first values
    00:36:57 Best investment advice & favorite book (East of Eden)

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  30. This Is the Best $1M EBITDA Business (A Lesson From Talking to 2,000 Business Owners)

    24 augustus 2025 · 55 min

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    Rand Larson helps small business owners beat the loneliness of operating by building tight, ROI-driven peer groups. We dig into what actually works: working-capital traps, hiring/firing discipline, burnout, and why some owners sell just 12–24 months post-close. Lees meer

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro & guest: Rand Larson
    00:01:43 - What ScalePath is (structure & purpose)
    00:02:29 - “How I make money”
    00:03:11 - HVAC acquisition near-bankruptcy story
    00:05:07 - Genesis of peer groups (therapy → community)
    00:07:49 - What makes a great event (small, similar, 3-hour format)
    00:08:37 - Why local organizing is rare (and hard)
    00:09:59 - Early peer groups = therapy; today = ROI focus
    00:12:56 - 16 events in ~35 days
    00:15:01 - Why paid improves attendance (Vistage/YPO comparison)
    00:16:02 - Niche-based groups: B2B, pro services, local services
    00:17:17 - Online vs. in-person
    00:19:20 - Ideal setup: industry peers + local group
    00:19:35 - Pricing models & member feedback
    00:20:07 - Price point & ROI framing
    00:22:32 - The van: $42k “vanlife” for meetups
    00:23:10 - First trips & momentum
    00:24:59 - Why the van is standout B2B marketing
    00:25:59 - Newsletter stories: behind the scenes
    00:27:47 - Why sell a commercial cleaning business
    00:29:25 - Talking to $30–50M operators; misery check
    00:30:38 - Community value for acquisition decisions
    00:31:28 - Niche example: boat upholstery repair
    00:32:59 - Hiring lesson: inexperienced vs. experienced owners
    00:35:08 - Common theme: undercapitalization
    00:35:33 - “Take every dollar the bank offers” (asset deal context)
    00:38:29 - ~10% therapy; SBA-debt stress early on
    00:40:16 - “Real work starts after close”
    00:40:29 - Join a peer group before the fire (vs. during)
    00:41:10 - Why experienced owners value peer groups

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  31. We closed 7 deals in 14 months (first $140m and a portfolio of 13 companies)

    20 augustus 2025 · 54 min

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    Today’s guests are Lizzie Ryan and Darrel Connell, Managing Partners at IMBIBA, one of the UK’s leading specialist investors in leisure, education, and health. We cover IMBIBA’s operator-heavy model, why they back four-walls brands with proven unit economics, and how they sourced, structured, and exited deals through the toughest market in a decade. Lees meer

    We dig into Fund I’s brutal raise, doing 7 deals in 14 months during COVID, building resilience in portfolio construction (childcare, wellness, and real estate-backed concepts), and the mechanics of operational gearing and like-for-like performance that drive exit timing. They share hard-won lessons on off-market origination (1,000+ outreaches → 600 meetings → 3–4 investments), upgrading teams post-investment, the “professional MD” hire, picking sites, saying no to bad leases, and aligning founder incentives with liquidity—without losing momentum.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:00:07 Who are IMBIBA’s managing partners?
    00:02:36 IMBIBA origin story & “two lives” of the firm
    00:03:46 Fund I thesis: proven unit economics, operator help, rollout
    00:05:22 Building an operator-heavy PE team
    00:06:11 Fundraising war stories (2018): the brutal last £10m
    00:09:13 Post-raise: first 18–24 months
    00:09:52 COVID hits: portfolio shut, scenario planning, survival
    00:10:22 Doing 7 deals in 14 months: why founders chose them
    00:11:35 What great PE–founder support looked like in crisis
    00:14:19 Managing LP expectations during uncertainty
    00:15:07 Rebuilding the portfolio: childcare, wellness, four-walls brands
    00:17:35 Designing for resilience: margins, labor mix, exits
    00:18:16 Portfolio & exits: NQ64, Little Houses Group
    00:20:05 Who buys these assets now? (trade, PE, US interest)
    00:21:49 When to sell vs. hold: operational gearing & like-for-like trends
    00:25:18 Typical deal structure: significant minority, founder-led
    00:26:14 Sourcing: mapping subsectors, off-market outreach
    00:27:20 Upgrading teams post-investment; the “profession…

  32. Larry Gagosian Makes $1B+ a Year Brokering Off-Market Art (While Still Owning 100% Of The Business)

    15 augustus 2025 · 38 min

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    A concise, hard-nosed breakdown of Larry Gagosian’s operator toolkit—how a relentless deal engine, secondary-market focus, and absolute control compound into 18 galleries and $1B in annual revenue. We translate his moves into actionable tactics for investors, business buyers and holding company builders: Lees meer

    - build proprietary deal flow,
    - price on information,
    - create markets,
    - and turn relationships into leverage.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Why Larry Gagosian
    00:02:46 - Section 1: Build a deal engine
    00:03:47 - Tactic: 100 cold calls a day
    00:04:49 - Show up uninvited (crashing rooms, creating access)
    00:06:04 - Default aggressive beats perfect timing
    00:08:16 - Implementation: build your pipeline & momentum (questions to ask owners)
    00:10:44 - Section 2: Total control and owning 100%
    00:13:45 - Non-obvious plays (private-jet terminal gallery)
    00:18:39 - Section 3: Build a market around your edge (secondary markets)
    00:19:04 - Building a secondary market
    00:21:19 - Tactics: proven assets, create liquidity, exploit fragmentation, earned secrets
    00:23:06 - Apply to SMBs: secondary markets & roll-ups, own the transaction
    00:25:58 - Investor lessons: ignore status games, price on info, map your niche, be the connector
    00:26:37 - Section 4: Build relationships, not deals
    00:27:31 - The S.I. Newhouse cold call and a life-changing relationship
    00:29:04 - “Heir maps,” future inventory & proprietary deal flow
    00:30:08 - Co-conspirators, not just clients (embedded trust)
    00:31:03 - Operationalizing relationships (network, outreach muscle, non-transactional, real-world events)
    00:33:44 - Think in decades (compounding relationships and capital)
    00:35:24 - Synthesis: the Gagosian playbook (sell more, control, brand, secondary, outbound, relationships)
    00:37:45 - Closing & CTA (share, subscribe, next episodes)

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  33. The Next Andrew Wilkinson? Building a 6-Company HoldCo (Bootstrapped with a 7-Figure Exit)

    11 augustus 2025 · 1 uur 3 min

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    Brandon Pindulic sold his first company for 7 figures, then built Space Bar Ventures — a bootstrapped holding company with 6 cash-flowing digital businesses and zero outside capital. We break down how he starts, buys, and scales companies, the $10K bet that launched his most successful venture, and the traps that kill most HoldCos. Lees meer

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:00:44 - Starting the first agency while working at a SaaS company
    00:04:39 - Transition from side business to full-time entrepreneur
    00:08:35 - Negotiation lessons and structuring the earnout deal
    00:12:28 - Landing Oracle as first major client
    00:14:06 - Post-sale period and consulting work
    00:19:30 - Acquiring Planet Compliance - turnaround story
    00:22:05 - Starting Spacebar Visuals with $10k and co-founder search
    00:25:49 - Why the operator recruitment method works
    00:28:54 - Refining Space Bar Ventures' vision – incubations vs acquisitions
    00:36:15 - Advice for growing HoldCo Builders & Private Equity Guy
    00:38:50 - Delegation lessons and becoming a better operator
    00:42:42 - Spotting talent early - why Ryan was the right co-founder
    00:44:32 - Current focus - growth over acquisitions
    00:47:34 - Raising capital vs staying bootstrapped
    00:50:02 - Cost-cutting and 'Vendor Day' – saving $100k/year
    00:53:58 - Strengths, weaknesses, and growth strategy
    00:57:35 - Why the $1M after-tax cash flow goal
    01:01:24 - Quickfire: best investment advice & favorite books

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  34. How Michael Ovitz and Steve Schwarzman From BlackStone Find 10s

    6 augustus 2025 · 43 min

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    What if your next CEO hire could 10x—or destroy—your portfolio company? Lees meer

    Michael Ovitz, legendary founder of CAA, built a $100M+ firm by spotting raw, misfit talent and turning it into power. In this solo episode, we break down the exact frameworks Ovitz used—and how HoldCo builders and investors can apply them to identify elite operators, structure trust systems, and build institutions that last.

    If you're hiring leaders, backing talent, or scaling a portfolio of companies—this is a playbook you can't afford to skip.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Why Michael Ovitz Matters
    00:05:07 - Big lessons when hiring a CEO for your portfolio company
    00:06:40 - Don’t overindex presentation and don’t judge by how equipped someone looks today
    00:07:59 - Meet hundreds and thousands to train your eye
    00:10:36 - Institutional momentum is more important than individual brilliance
    00:17:59 - The top 0.01% of people I back just never stop
    00:20:11 - Reward those who create a movement
    00:22:28 - Decentralized decision-making
    00:27:12 - Ego is the enemy of multiples
    00:29:28 - Be brutally honest but relationship-driven
    00:33:07 - Time is the ultimate enemy
    00:36:14 - How to build time discipline in your investment firm or HoldCo
    00:40:44 - Add these three questions to your DD
    00:41:22 - How to win when you play the long game with people

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  35. How I Bought 4 Companies After Raising Millions from 35 Investors | Danny Vivier Interview

    1 augustus 2025 · 57 min

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    Danny Vivier is quietly building one of the most thoughtful vertical SaaS portfolios in the game. Lees meer

    Buying founder-led software companies and grow them forever.

    Danny shares the real playbook behind Evermore's rise—raising from 35 investors, managing post-acquisition chaos, and why he's doubling down on boring businesses with big moats.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro – Who is Danny Vivier?
    00:01:07 - Starting First Landings (E-commerce)
    00:02:10 - Product Sourcing and Early Days
    00:03:09 - Getting Offer from Aggregator
    00:06:59 - Amazon Delisting Story
    00:07:59 - Exit Process & Post-Sale Transition
    00:08:42 - Why Danny Moved Into Software
    00:09:30 - Managing Risk While Employed
    00:11:22 - First Acquisition
    00:16:06 - Partner Dynamics with Scott
    00:18:04 - First Acquisition Size & Deal Terms
    00:18:58 - Second Acquisition – Sign Company
    00:20:03 - Launching the Evermore Strategy
    00:21:08 - Lessons from Offline vs SaaS Businesses
    00:22:05 - Post-Acquisition Leadership Hiring
    00:24:14 - Offline Business Operations Today
    00:25:13 - Going All-In on Vertical SaaS
    00:26:36 - Acquisition Structures and Transitions
    00:27:55 - Evermore vs VC, PE, and Search Funds
    00:30:50 - Raising from 35 Individual Investors
    00:33:00 - Convincing Investors with the Vision
    00:34:50 - Investor Communication Systems
    00:36:28 - Deal Sourcing Strategy
    00:38:36 - Competition in Acquisitions
    00:42:32 - Refining Acquisition Criteria
    00:45:58 - Debt Strategy and Deal Structures
    00:46:30 - Portfolio Size Today
    00:47:03 - Doubling Down on One Platform
    00:50:33 - Vertical SaaS Opportunity Ahead
    00:51:04 - Current Portfolio Struggles
    00:52:28 - Leaving Social Media
    00:54:08 - Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

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  36. Follow This Private Equity Model and You'll Win (They Turned a $25K Loan Into a $15B AUM Fund)

    29 juli 2025 · 47 min

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    In this episode of HoldCo Builders, I dive deep into the playbook of one of the most consistently high-performing investors in the world: Graham Weaver, Founder of Alpine Investors. Lees meer

    Alpine isn’t just a private equity firm, it’s a human capital compounding machine that grew from a $25,000 loan to over $15B in AUM, all by betting on people. Graham didn’t win by chasing deals, he won by outbehaving everyone else in the industry.

    In this deep dive, I break down:
    00:00:00 - Intro: Why Study Graham Weaver
    00:02:21 - Lesson 1: Your Business is a Reflection of Your Will
    00:07:58 - Lesson 2: Purpose Over Strategy
    00:15:21 - Lesson 3: Winnable Games
    00:22:55 - Lesson 4: Talent as Alpha
    00:27:19 - Lesson 5: Building Platforms Before Acquisitions
    00:32:36 - Lesson 6: Managing for Long-Term Value
    00:37:35 - Lesson 7: Personal Growth as Business Strategy
    00:45:30 - Final Reflections and Call to Action

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  37. How to Build a $200M HVAC HoldCo Without Outside Capital (2 Acquisitions and Organic Growth)

    25 juli 2025 · 1 uur 7 min

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    Today on HoldCo Builders, I’m joined by Chris Hoffman, CEO of HP Solutions Group, the $200M+ holding company behind one of America’s fastest-growing residential services brands. Chris and his brother took over their father's $9M HVAC business in 2015 and turned it into a multi-brand platform with over 600 employees — all without raising outside capital. Lees meer

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - From $9M to $150M: Why scaling gets easier
    00:01:22 - The mastermind that transformed our business
    00:03:56 - We didn’t invent the playbook, we executed the process playbook
    00:06:54 - I almost let my ego kill our growth
    00:08:19 - How we grew 35% annually for 8 years
    00:10:02 - Should more entrepreneurs take part in masterminds?
    00:11:37 - Why I paid myself $80K for 5 years
    00:15:30 - How we built a game-changing advisory board
    00:19:38 - We hired a board member as our company president
    00:22:24 - Running a family business without the drama
    00:25:33 - Our mission: Become the #1 private home service company
    00:31:19 - Why we only do 1–2 acquisitions a year
    00:33:33 - Only looking for markets with a lot of tailwinds
    00:37:35 - Competing with private equity on great deals
    00:42:28 - How we 2.5x’d profit at Ferguson Roofing
    00:46:18 - The financing strategy that fuels our sales
    00:52:49 - How we scaled with zero outside capital
    00:55:51 - Capital allocation and debt terms from the banks
    00:58:43 - The mindset shift to break through the $30M ceiling
    01:01:34 - The goal is to just stay in the business and do the same things we’ve done so far

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  38. This Model Beats Private Equity Returns (30-50%+ IRR)

    19 juli 2025 · 32 min

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    What if the key to building real wealth wasn’t in startups or VC, but in buying simple, cash-flowing businesses? Lees meer

    In this episode, we dive deep into the minds of Royce Yudkoff and Rick Ruback — the Harvard professors who quietly shaped the world of search funds and acquisition entrepreneurship. Their ETA class at HBS has launched hundreds of successful HoldCos and operators.

    We explore the two paths of search (funded vs. self-funded), why the multiple matters more than growth, what red flags kill deals, and how great operators build empires by holding longer.

    If you’ve ever thought about buying a business — this is the playbook.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro: The Hidden Giants Behind ETA
    00:01:01 - The Bifurcation of Search: Funded vs. Self-Funded
    00:06:16 - The Magic Is in the Multiples, Not Growth
    00:09:51 - What to Look For: 5 Filters for Great Acquisitions
    00:14:54 - Red Flags That Quietly Kill Deals
    00:19:01 - Where Real Growth Actually Comes From
    00:21:58 - Why Great Operators Still Sell Too Early
    00:25:51 - The Real Search Process (And Why It Works)
    00:29:45 - More Money Than Time: The Real Reason to Buy a Business

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  39. How to Do 10+ Deals per Year ($8M in Revenue and $2.5M in EBITDA) | Jack Bennett

    15 juli 2025 · 1 uur 7 min

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    Jack Bennett is the co-founder of Lighthouse Capital, a firm advising and investing in small business acquisitions across the U.S. and Canada. In just under two years, Jack and his team have closed over 20 deals, built a 10-location accounting roll-up generating $8M in revenue, and developed a unique dual structure combining M&A advisory and direct equity investments. Lees meer

    In this episode, we cover:
    00:00:00 - Introduction to Jack Bennett & Lighthouse Capital
    00:00:47 - Building a ghostwriting agency for wealthy clients
    00:07:30 - Meeting Ben Kelly and founding Lighthouse Capital
    00:12:39 - Early days of Lighthouse and first hires
    00:15:38 - Structure and the types of companies they invest in
    00:17:25 - When do they decide to advise vs. invest
    00:19:00 - Why combine M&A advisory and rollups
    00:25:02 - Uniqueness of Lighthouse’s dual strategy
    00:29:10 - Converting fees into equity and how it actually works
    00:33:55 - Deal quality, ownership, and control
    00:37:11 - Pros and cons of following the M&A and roll-up strategy at the same time
    00:41:34 - Cash for equity and “see you at the first board meeting”
    00:45:19 - Being the youngest on the founding team
    00:48:39 - Four acquisitions and ten locations
    00:52:09 - Everything post-acquisition
    00:55:20 - The importance of integration
    00:59:53 - What Jack believes earns him the best returns
    01:03:29 - Is this the best investment advice you’ve ever heard?

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  40. How I Left Investment Banking to Build a Search Fund (Luca Hany from Amboro Capital)

    12 juli 2025 · 58 min

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    Ever wonder what it takes to start a solo search fund in Europe? Luca Hany left investment banking and bet on himself to build Amboro Capital, one of the few traditional search funds in Switzerland. Lees meer

    In this raw and practical episode, Luca dives into his strategy, the gaps in the Swiss market, how he raised capital with no operating experience, and how he builds deal flow from scratch in a country with no public company database.

    In this episode, we cover:
    00:00:00 - Intro to Luca Hany and Amboro Capital
    00:00:27 - Why Luca left investment banking after 6 years
    00:02:22 - Discovering ETA and building a personal mode
    00:05:16 - Why Switzerland is ripe for ETA—and why no one's doing it
    00:07:52 - The Swiss succession crisis in SMEs
    00:11:12 - Educating SME owners on alternatives to selling to competitors
    00:14:12 - Letter-based outreach strategy and surprising owner reactions
    00:16:30 - Lack of company databases and why it's actually an advantage
    00:18:28 - Balancing fundraising, deal sourcing, and strategy
    00:20:45 - Investor objections: "Does ETA even work in Switzerland?"
    00:22:34 - Addressing lack of operating experience head-on
    00:24:49 - Why Luca chose to go solo and how he avoids loneliness
    00:26:11 - Real costs of doing a solo search in Switzerland
    00:28:54 - Recruiting and paying top-tier interns
    00:31:15 - What niches and industries Luca is targeting
    00:35:49 - How he defines a great business (non-obvious signs)
    00:38:00 - Adding Southern Germany to the search scope
    00:40:55 - Real competition in the Swiss deal landscape
    00:43:04 - Typical deal structures and seller expectations
    00:48:15 - When to pull the trigger on a business
    00:50:15 - Red lines, long-term vision, and personal motivation
    00:54:13 - Best investment advice Luca ever received
    00:55:00 - Is he under pressure? Why he sees this as a privilege
    00:56:10 - Favorite book and closing reflections

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  41. How The Chainsmokers Built a $200M AUM Fund (Using 7 Proven Operating Principles)

    8 juli 2025 · 53 min

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    Few realize Drew and Alex of The Chainsmokers are world-class operators and disciplined investors --- with over 220 portfolio companies through their investment firm, Mantis. Lees meer

    In this solo deep dive, I break down the real Chainsmokers story — from sleeping on floors and running fan CRMs to building a systemized investment engine backed by General Catalyst and Mark Cuban.

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Why This Episode Exists
    00:01:54 - What Drives the Great Ones
    00:05:14 - Be Bad First, Then Get Good
    00:07:31 - Systems Before Scale
    00:10:29 - Two Questions Every Buyer Should Ask
    00:15:14 - The Chainsmokers' Investments and Product Portfolio Today
    00:19:20 - If Your Revenue Doubled Overnight, Would Your Systems Survive?
    00:25:33 - Build Something Only You Can Build and Acquire
    00:32:25 - People Don’t Trust People They Don’t See
    00:34:58 - What It Looks Like in Year 10
    00:36:35 - What Makes Long-Term Investing So Powerful: Everyone Else Burns Out
    00:41:16 - Build a World, Not Just a Stack of Companies
    00:47:01 - Fix the “Plumbing” Before You Scale
    00:52:05 - Are You Building an Investment Firm Worth Joining?

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  42. How I Bought 3 Paving Companies in 11 Months ($66M in Revenue and $7M in EBITDA) | Sam Mahmood

    4 juli 2025 · 58 min

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    Sam Mahmood is the co-founder of Pave, a holding company rolling up businesses in one of the most overlooked, unsexy, yet wildly lucrative sectors in America - paving and line striping. In just 11 months, Sam and his team have scaled to three companies doing $66M in revenue and $7M in EBITDA. Lees meer

    But Sam didn’t start in asphalt. He began in medical devices, building a national distribution and manufacturing business from scratch in his 20s. After taking chips off the table and stepping back, he went searching for his next billion-dollar opportunity. What he found? Line striping.

    In this episode, we cover:
    00:00:00 - Intro to Sam Mahmood and Pave
    00:01:41 - From medical devices to rollups
    00:05:55 - Why Sam chose the paving industry
    00:10:07 - Framework for choosing the right industry
    00:13:22 - How to build an all-star advisory board
    00:17:15 - Raising $2.5M in 30 days from retail investors
    00:23:01 - Assembling the core Pave team
    00:24:26 - First acquisition: D&O Contractors
    00:27:15 - The thought process behind walking away from a New York deal
    00:32:30 - "Do the Work" mindset and company culture
    00:34:57 - 15–20 paving companies and Sam’s creative “Pave Pod” for deal flow
    00:41:05 - “Confidence is two inches wide and 10 feet deep. Fear is a mile wide and an inch deep.”
    00:43:13 - Second acquisition and operational strategy
    00:46:46 - Why Sam turned down a $150M private equity deal
    00:51:53 - Where Pave is today and what’s next
    00:53:42 - Sam's “to-WHO” list vs. traditional to-do lists
    00:56:10 - Sam’s favorite book and final advice

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  43. The Next Warren Buffett? Turning $2.7m Into $650m by Buying 30+ Businesses

    30 juni 2025 · 18 min

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    Join us for a deep dive into one of the most fascinating stories in British business. In this episode, we explore RDCP Group, a UK-based holding company that grew from a £2 million equity stake into a portfolio generating over £400 million in annual revenue—all without institutional capital. Lees meer

    We unpack:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:00:49 - What makes Sameer and Iryna special as operators, investors, or builders?
    00:01:57 - What surprised Alex most during his research?
    00:04:12 - What are the biggest philosophical differences between building a HoldCo like RDCP versus launching a fund?
    00:07:17 - How does RDCP’s financing model differ from traditional PE-backed serial acquirers?
    00:10:28 - What made the care home strategy bankable, and how did they leverage it to fund other ventures?
    00:13:49 - RDCP’s aspiration to become the “British Berkshire Hathaway” - realistic or PR?
    00:14:30 - Does the current structure - heavily SPV-based and bank-leveraged - can evolve into a more permanent capital vehicle?
    00:16:45 - What did Alex personally learn the most from this research?

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  44. How I Bought 7 Small Businesses and Had One Exit That Returned a 35x MOIC | Dev Shah Interview

    27 juni 2025 · 1 uur 17 min

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    Dev Shah is the founder of Pocket Fund, a HoldCo that has acquired 7 businesses. At just 23, Dev has built a growing portfolio of newsletters, SaaS products, and mobile apps without raising a dime of outside capital. One of his first acquisitions, Sourcely.ai, made 37.5x MOIC. Lees meer

    In this episode, we cover:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:56 - Discovering acquire.com and the first acquisition
    00:03:04 - Overview of Pocket Fund's portfolio and team structure
    00:10:08 - Building and managing a team in India to run the portfolio
    00:11:03 - How he finds operators and builds systems to scale to 20+ companies
    00:17:14 - His buying criteria and approach to value creation
    00:21:52 - Deal sourcing
    00:36:55 - Deep dive into his 35x MOIC case study (Sourcely.ai)
    00:43:47 - How does Dev manage a portfolio of six companies
    00:47:56 - Why he is rejecting VC and fund money for now
    01:00:37 - Long-term vision and building a new Constellation-like model in India
    01:05:24 - Hiring global talent

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  45. How I Left BlackRock to Build 3 Companies (Then Sold Two in 5 Years) | Jamal Muse Interview

    25 juni 2025 · 47 min

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    I sit down with Jamal Muse, a former math teacher and former Blackrock analytics professional who reinvented himself as a serial founder. He’s built and sold two brands (one for 7 figures) and is now sellling his third. Lees meer

    If you're building with an exit in mind — or want to learn how top operators structure their businesses to sell — this episode is a must-listen.

    📧 Interested in buying Jamal’s current business? Reach out at: mikk at privatequityguy dot com
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    We cover:
    00:00:00 - Intro - Meet Jamal Muse, 3-time founder with one 7-figure exit
    00:01:07 - Why 50% of your earnings come at the exit, not during operations
    00:03:31 - How Jamal learned to treat his business as an asset, not a baby
    00:06:50 - The mindset shift behind picking the right buyer (and rejecting offers)
    00:09:00 - Should you sell your business? Jamal’s take on emotional attachment
    00:11:01 - Reinventing yourself: From teacher to entrepreneur to what’s next
    00:19:00 - Why going public with his story was scarier than skydiving
    00:22:30 - Jamal’s 3-year roadmap to build, grow, and exit a brand
    00:27:00 - Common mistakes that kill exits: bad books, weak niche, messy ops
    00:30:00 - Revenue vs. profit - what actually matters when selling
    00:33:00 - What real buyers look for in a business (and red flags to avoid)
    00:36:40 - You can dictate price or terms - but not both

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  46. 40% CAGR for Over 15 Years: UK’s Most Profitable Roll-Up?

    23 juni 2025 · 18 min

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    True Potential has quietly compounded at 40% CAGR for over 15 years, becoming the UK's largest private equity-backed wealth management consolidator. In this deep-dive episode, we unpack the strategy behind this incredible growth story with Alex from RollUp Europe, who authored one of the most detailed research pieces on True Potential.
    Learn how True Potential:
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    00:00:00 - Compounding at 40% for 15 years
    00:00:42 - What is an IFA and why true potential stands out
    00:01:33 - $500k EBITDA per employee: the aha moment
    00:02:56 - How true potential earns 70–80% EBITDA margins
    00:05:26 - Why 90% of AUM is in in-house funds, and why that matters
    00:06:50 - True potential’s small ticket M&A machine
    00:08:53 - How they avoided legal liability while acquiring clients
    00:10:07 - Regulatory risks of vertical integration in the UK
    00:12:18 - The hidden cost of selling to consumers (vs B2B)
    00:14:40 - Why Cinven paid 20x EBITDA, and still won
    00:16:01 - 3 key lessons from true potential’s buy-and-build success

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  47. How I Left Real Estate PE, Bought 6 Companies and Sold To A Strategic Buyer In 23 Months

    20 juni 2025 · 55 min

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    Mike Botkin went from being a real estate private equity COO to buying a small landscaping business doing $780K in revenue - with no prior experience and no money down. Just 23 months later, he sold it for millions after scaling through 6 smart acquisitions and ruthless focus. Lees meer

    This is one of the most tactical and inspiring HoldCo journeys you’ll hear in a long time. If you’ve ever thought about leaving your job to buy a business, this is the episode that might make you do it.

    In this episode, we cover:
    00:00:00 - Why Mike left a PE COO role to buy a $780K landscaping business
    00:00:31 - “I wasn’t qualified” - Mike explains why he took the leap anyway
    00:04:30 - Burn the boats: betting everything on himself with a newborn at home
    00:06:23 - How he found his first business on BizBuySell and closed in 45 days
    00:08:20 - The myth of perfect deals and how Mike created his own luck00:14:10 - Why Mike fired $3M in revenue and focused only on profitable customers
    00:20:12 - A reporting hack that boosted margins by cutting wasted labor time
    00:22:53 - He wasn’t buying businesses, he was acquiring great people
    00:26:10 - Don’t buy from tired sellers, look for mid-career owners instead
    00:28:20 - Why Mike avoided SBA loans and bought 6 businesses with no debt
    00:34:19 - How he raised millions without putting in a dollar of his own
    00:38:55 - The exit: selling the company and why early retirement didn’t stick
    00:42:50 - Starting Canvas Outdoors: replicating the model with two platforms
    00:44:15 - Why maniacal focus beats portfolio diversification for HoldCos
    00:50:00 - Lessons from a CEO: “Keep the main thing the main thing"
    00:52:42 - Mike’s favorite book and his brutally honest best investment advice

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  48. How To Raise $159M, Acquire 6 YouTube Channels and Sell To Blackstone For $3B in 3.5 Years

    16 juni 2025 · 24 min

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    The $3 Billion Rollup: Inside Moonbug’s Epic Exit (with Alex Prokofjev from Rollup Europe) Lees meer

    What do Cocomelon, Blippi, and Little Baby Bum have in common? They were all part of one of the most impressive media rollups in history: Moonbug Entertainment — a business that scaled from 0 to $100M EBITDA in under four years and exited for $3 billion to Candle Media (backed by Blackstone).

    In this episode, I sit down with Alex Prokofjev, co-founder of Rollup Europe, who did a deep dive into Moonbug’s strategy. We unpack the insane deal-making, content flywheel, multi-channel monetization, and the unique cap table structure that fueled this rocketship.

    We explore:
    00:00:00 - Intro: The Most Fascinating Exit in Modern Media?
    00:00:42 - Why Moonbug Was a Contrarian Bet in 2018
    00:02:15 - Meet the Dream Team: Disney + Wildbrain + M&A
    00:03:35 - How They Scaled to $3B in Just 3.5 Years
    00:05:00 - Moonbug’s Playbook: Monetizing Kids' IP Across Channels
    00:06:15 - Cap Table Deep Dive: 6 Share Classes & Incentive Design
    00:07:30 - How Moonbug Achieved 50% EBITDA Margins Across 30 Brands
    00:09:00 - Little Baby Bum: The $90M Deal That Changed Everything
    00:13:00 - Moonbug’s Exit to Candle Media: Was $3B Worth It?
    00:16:00 - Why Moonbug Hasn’t Been Copied (Successfully)
    00:17:20 - The Legal Battles & Risks Behind the Scenes
    00:19:35 - Founders’ Payday: Who Made How Much in the Exit?
    00:20:30 - Top 3 Lessons for Today’s Rollup Operators

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  49. How They Invest in 6-8 Boring, Owner-Operated Businesses Each Month | Judd Goodrich interview

    13 juni 2025 · 1 uur

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    In this episode of HoldCo Builders, I sit down with Jude Goodrick, Head of Capital Markets at Mainshares—a fast-growing platform that's quietly reshaping small business acquisitions. Lees meer

    Mainshares helps acquisition entrepreneurs find the capital they need to buy real, cash-flowing businesses. Jude has seen hundreds of deals and works directly with operators and investors to get them across the finish line.

    In This Episode We Discuss:
    00:00:00 - Intro: Why Jude Goodrick is at the center of SMB acquisitions
    00:00:42 - Jude's background and journey from Carta to Mainshares
    00:01:36 - The origin story of Mainshares and what problem it solves
    00:03:09 - Solving the chicken-and-egg problem of deals vs. capital
    00:06:47 - Feedback from having 800 conversations with operators
    00:07:59 - First acquisition took about a year
    00:08:48 - How Mainshares makes money and structures deals
    00:17:31 - A common reason operators come to them
    00:19:47 - Why Mainshares isn't building a traditional PE firm
    00:23:32 - Could Mainshares build a permanent HoldCo?
    00:24:58 - Investor experience on the Mainshares platform
    00:32:12 - What happens when a deal is oversubscribed?
    00:36:10 - Post-acquisition support: credit lines, equipment loans
    00:38:21 - Who are the operators? First-timers vs. seasoned pros
    00:40:35 - MBA vs. blue-collar operators: who performs better?
    00:43:17 - What happens when things go wrong post-acquisition?
    00:45:00 - Structuring preferred equity and step-ups
    00:48:40 - Jude’s advice to aspiring acquisition entrepreneurs
    00:51:35 - What separates great operators from average ones
    00:57:29 - What Jude enjoys most - and least - about his role
    00:59:20 - Would Jude ever buy a business himself?

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  50. How Plumbing and HVAC Investors Turned $500K Into $6 Billion Exit

    10 juni 2025 · 18 min

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    Is this the most underappreciated rollup in Europe? Lees meer

    In this episode, we dive deep into HomeServe — the unsexy plumbing and HVAC company that quietly evolved into a $2B revenue giant and was eventually acquired by Brookfield for $6B. But this isn't just a story about boilers and leaky taps.

    Joining us is Alex Prokofjev, co-founder of RollUp Europe.

    Whether you're an operator, investor, or aspiring acquisition entrepreneur, this episode is packed with strategic insights on rollups, recurring revenue, and scaling services with a subscription twist.

    We explore:
    00:00:00 - The most underappreciated Rollup in Europe?
    00:00:51 - How HomeServe evolved into a vertically integrated insurance broker
    00:01:45 - The business model failed not once but twice
    00:03:31 - Two powerful lessons for pperators: Fintech revenue and iterating beyond your first idea
    00:04:40 - Great timing
    00:05:57 - Why HVAC became HomeServe’s rollup goldmine: high-trust, high-margin, mission-critical customer moments
    00:08:40 - Buying small businesses with attractive multiples
    00:07:15 - How HomeServe Justified Higher Acquisition Multiples
    00:10:04 - Why public market investor give up on HomeServe
    00:12:40 - The Brookfield playbook Post-Acquisition: Breaking up the business and doubling down on HVAC rollups in Europe
    00:14:03 - Biggest takeaway: Be ready to pivot your entire business
    00:15:15 - Running a mission critical requrring revenue business
    00:16:26 - Similar strategies on different verticals

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