Back Row with Amy Odell

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1. Luxury's Slump: Can Designers Save Fashion? (with Eugene Rabkin) [TEASER]

   5 november 2026 · 18 min

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   Third-quarter earnings are in, and luxury's slump isn't letting up. Kering and LVMH were down, Hermès grew but missed expectations, and Chanel seems like just about the only house that's winning. Amy brings back StyleZeitgeist founder Eugene Rabkin, author of Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism, to ask what's driving the downturn and whether designers can save it. Lees meer

   The rest of the conversation, on the Paris protests, Chanelmania, whether the Birkin is over, and Anna Wintour chasing tech money, is for Back Row Premium subscribers. Sign up at backrow.net/subscribe to get newsletter access included with your subscription.

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   02:45 The Great Reset, one year in

   07:30 Is McQueen headed for the mall?

   09:45 Gucci's wholesale crutch

   13:45 LVMH misses & Arnault slips

   16:15 Is Dior really "gaining traction"?

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   Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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2. Working for Anna Wintour & How Vogue Really Picks Its Cover Stars (with Jill Demling)

   2 november 2026 · 49 min

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   Jill Demling started as Anna Wintour's assistant in 1998, around the same time as Lauren Weisberger, who went on to write The Devil Wears Prada. Anna promoted Jill to entertainment editor, and she spent the next 18 and a half years deciding who got the cover of Vogue. She reveals which cover Anna wouldn't let her forget, how Beyoncé got her first Vogue cover, and why Angelina Jolie raided Gwyneth Paltrow's rack. Lees meer

   Jill now hosts the Going Rogue podcast. Check it out on Apple:
   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/going-rogue/id1814440700
   YouTube:
   https://www.youtube.com/@UCifqLV2sQB7b9WufQimRyqw
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   https://open.spotify.com/show/7CIDU8Gib1FRvscacNw4SR

   CHAPTERS
   00:00 Introduction
   02:30 Anna's "next September" test
   08:00 Egg sandwiches, voicemails & Burger Heaven milkshakes
   12:45 Lauren Weisberger & the real Emily
   18:30 What The Devil Wears Prada gets wrong
   22:30 Why celebrities replaced models on covers
   33:30 How Beyoncé landed her first Vogue cover
   41:00 Photo approval & Beyoncé's no-interview cover
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3. The Rise of Fashion Slop (with Sam Sanders)

   28 oktober 2026 · 33 min

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   Amy recently joined The Sam Sanders Show to talk about the rise of AI slop in fashion. Thank you to Sam and his team for allowing Back Row to republish the interview here! Lees meer

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   Even the fashion industry can’t escape AI slop.

   Fast fashion brands are using AI to pump out new looks and trends, and speed up production at unsustainable rates. It’s a business model that relies much more on algorithmic data than human design. Chances are you’ve even seen plenty of these products in your social media feeds.

   Sam chats with fashion journalist Amy Odell, host of the ‘Back Row’ podcast, about AI’s influence in the industry and how we can all be better consumers. Plus, is high fashion on life support? Amy also breaks down the perils of luxury shopping today.

   The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.

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4. Inside Kim Kardashian's World with Her Biographer Jonathan Van Meter

   26 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 2 min

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   Jonathan Van Meter spent five years inside Kim Kardashian's world for his new biography, Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future. He talks about what her rarefied world of fame and wealth is really like, her childhood front-row seat to the O.J. Simpson trial, and how Kanye West got her into the Met Gala. Plus: what Jonathan could and couldn't learn about how the sex tape was released, and whether Kim is laying the groundwork to run for political office. Lees meer

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   02:00 How Jonathan Got Five Years of Access

   05:30 Inside Kim Kardashian's House (and Her 24 Staffers)

   12:00 Kim Air: Kim's Private Jet

   30:30 Kim and the O.J. Simpson Trial

   40:30 The Kim Kardashian Sex Tape

   45:30 The Paris Robbery

   48:00 Kanye, Anna Wintour & the Met Gala

   55:00 Will Kim Run for Office?

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   Edited by Chrissi Harris.

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5. The Swan: Inside Reality TV's Most Brutal Makeover Show (with Director Erin Lee Carr)

   19 oktober 2026 · 44 min

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   Referenced in this episode:

   Facelift confessions, part 1: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-1-the-brutal-realities-of-getting-work-done

   Facelift confessions, part 2: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-2-expect-an-emotional-toll

   In 2004, Fox turned plastic surgery into primetime entertainment. The Swan reality show gave contestants about $200,000 worth of surgery each, put them on crash diets, banned mirrors for three months, and then put them in a beauty pageant. Nine million people watched. Erin Lee Carr, director of 'Mommy Dead and Dearest' and 'Britney vs Spears,' goes back to the women 20 years later in her hit Hulu documentary, The Swan: Behind the Mirror — and tells Amy what the documentary couldn't.

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   04:45 Getting the Swans to talk again

   10:00 "I almost died for reality television"

   19:30 How much choice did they have? "1%"

   22:45 Starvation diets and spoonfuls of peanut butter

   26:00 The nude photos Dr. Haworth kept

   28:50 The $5 million contract

   36:50 "Would you do it again?"

   40:00 A classic Anna Wintour story

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6. Fashion Month Awards, Spring 2027: Dior's Slump, Chanelmania Continues, and Galliano Fallout (with Dana Thomas) [TEASER]

   13 oktober 2026 · 18 min

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   The spring 2027 shows just wrapped in Paris, a year after the "Great Reset" brought new creative directors to Chanel, Dior, and many more. Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, Gods and Kings and Fashionopolis, to hand out Fashion Month Awards.

   They get into John Galliano's PR rehab after the canceled Met show, who's having the biggest sophomore slump, and more.

   The full episode for Premium subscribers includes awards for Best Runway Stunt and Best Overall, plus analysis of John Galliano's weak Zara launch and Virginie Viard's explosive book.

   CHAPTERS
   00:00 Introduction
   04:30 Biggest sophomore slump
   10:45 Best show nobody talked about
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7. Stop Impulse Buying: How Fashion Month Keeps You Broke (with Mrs. Dow Jones)

   9 oktober 2026 · 33 min

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   Mrs. Dow Jones (Haley Sacks) on how to stop impulse buying and why fashion month keeps you broke. Part One of two. Lees meer

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   Haley Sacks, aka @MrsDowJones, joins Amy to break down how fashion month keeps us stuck in a cycle of broke. Every season the same trend gets planted on the runway, in your feed, and on influencers, and within two weeks a cheaper version shows up at Zara.

   Haley talks about how to stop impulse buying, why luxury goods are so expensive, and what it was like to grow up in one of the world's wealthiest neighborhoods.

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   01:30 How fashion month keeps us in a cycle of broke

   04:00 From the runway to Zara in two weeks

   08:00 Buy fewer, better things

   10:00 How to stop impulse buying

   16:00 The luxury pyramid and the $690 keychain

   20:00 Is any luxury actually worth it?

   22:00 Hunting a sold-out clutch with an AI agent

   25:30 Haley's years as an Upper East Side nanny

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8. Meghan Markle Deep Dive, Part One: From Struggling Actress to Meeting Harry

   5 oktober 2026 · 50 min

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   Harry and Meghan are back in the UK, six years after leaving the royal family. In the first part of Back Row's deep dive into Meghan Markle, Amy and former Us Weekly and Hello! editor Justin Ravitz — who has interviewed Prince Harry and worked with the couple's team — trace Meghan's story from her Los Angeles childhood to the night she met Harry. Lees meer

   Part two is available to Back Row Premium subscribers.

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   09:00 Meghan's Los Angeles childhood

   12:30 Age 11: taking on Procter & Gamble

   16:15 Briefcase No. 24 on Deal or No Deal

   22:45 Landing Suits

   30:00 The Tig blog and Meghan's Goop dream

   35:30 Social climbing and Soho House

   43:30 Humanitarian ambitions and meeting Harry

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   Edited by Chrissi Harris.

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9. Fur Is Out of Fashion. Is Wool Next?

   28 september 2026 · 58 min

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   PJ Smith, director of fashion policy for Humane World for Animals (formerly the Humane Society), has spent almost 20 years getting companies from Gucci to Net-a-Porter to go fur-free. Lees meer

   Now that most top fashion brands have sworn off fur, is wool the next big target for animal welfare activists? PJ talks about why, thanks to LVMH, the fur fight isn't quite over, how he got brands to change their mind about fur, and what's next.

   CHAPTERS

   00:00 Introduction

   02:30 Why fur-free NYFW is historic

   08:00 How Humane World actually changes brands' minds

   18:30 Fur farming down 85% — the numbers

   22:30 PETA vs. H&M: the wool protests

   25:30 Is wool humane? Mulesing explained

   46:30 Exotic skins: the next target

   52:00 PJ's biggest lesson after 20 years

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10. Fashionphile's Founder on How to Spot a Superfake Birkin (with Sarah Davis)

    21 september 2026 · 49 min

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    Superfakes have never been better and counterfeiters have never been smarter — so how can consumers buy secondhand luxury with confidence? Lees meer

    Sarah Davis started Fashionphile on eBay in 1999, while she was in law school. Resale has exploded since: Her company now employs more than 350 people and authenticates roughly 1,500 luxury bags a day. Sarah reveals how she turned luxury authentication into an almost CIA-like operation, what gives away a fake Birkin bag, and how a $35,000 machine can tell if a Cartier Love bracelet is real or not.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction

    02:00 Law school, eBay, and the Fashionphile origin story

    15:00 A real Chanel, a fake one — can you tell?

    21:00 Fake bags bought at real stores

    23:30 "Your dupe isn't cute"

    26:30 The $75 fee that killed the counterfeits

    29:30 The $35,000 machine that catches fake Birkins

    44:30 Where resale goes next

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