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Thoughts as Thinkers: biology & computer science of inspiration within & without us by Michael Levin
31 oktober 2026 · 35 min
This is a ~35 minute talk titled "Thoughts as Thinkers: the biology and computer science of inspiration within and without us" that I gave right before Chris Fields, at a recent philosophy conference. Still working on different ways to present the concept of patterns as behavioral policies, their origin, and applications of this idea. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Policies of navigation
(04:40) Biological free lunches
(10:15) Molecular learning ratchets
(14:00) Competencies of xenobots
(20:48) Latent space of patterns
(27:12) Embodied mathematical minds
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"New Bodies, Unconventional Minds: a continuum of cognition (& consciousness) by Michael Levin
17 oktober 2026 · 40 min
This is a ~39 minute talk titled "New Bodies, Unconventional Minds: a perspective on a continuum of cognition (& consciousness)" for a consciousness conference about our laboratory model systems relevant to the study of minds, my Platonic Space model, and a few opinions on consciousness (at the end, since I don't have any strong claims about consciousness per se). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Continuum of novel minds
(07:11) Molecular networks and learning
(11:42) Xenobots and anthrobots
(18:25) Paying for competencies
(28:21) The space of patterns
(33:28) Rethinking nature of consciousness
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"Thoughts as Thinkers: the biology & computer science of inspiration" by Michael Levin
16 oktober 2026 · 36 min
This is a ~35 minute talk titled "Thoughts as Thinkers: the biology & computer science of inspiration" I gave at a recent conference. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) The nature of inspiration
(15:51) Xenobots and novel minds
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Bio-inspired technology? #science #biology #platonicspace
15 oktober 2026 · 3 min
This #short is an excerpt from Michael Levin's talk "Biology, AI, and Diverse Intelligence" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or_3tlEOLj4 Lees meer
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Patterns and free lunches
(01:01) Questioning biological uniqueness
(01:48) Competencies beyond the code
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What are we? Concepts for biology and AI #science #biology #diverseintelligence
13 oktober 2026 · 2 min
This #short is an excerpt from Michael Levin's talk "Biology, AI, and Diverse Intelligence" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or_3tlEOLj4 Lees meer
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Defining life and machines
(00:44) Reductionists versus organicists
(01:35) Rethinking machine metaphors
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"Mind-Body Interface: an experimental and Clinical Perspective" by Michael Levin and Karina Kofman
11 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 5 min
This is a ~1 hour and 4 minutes talk + Q&A that my student and collaborator Karina Kofman (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karina-Kofman-2) and I gave to the Society for Mind-Matter Research as a keynote talk in acceptance of the best paper for 2025 award (the paper is: https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/imp/mm/2025/00000023/00000001/art00003). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Mind and body interface
(03:44) Embryonic individuation and plasticity
(21:35) Clinical cases and anomalies
(41:11) Platonic space of competencies
(51:39) Audience questions and answers
(57:19) Categories of platonic forms
(01:01:18) Patterns and physical embodiment
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The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org
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"Neuroscience Beyond Neurons: communicating with unconventional minds" by Michael Levin
9 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 1 min
This is a ~1 hour talk given at a conference on the philosophy and future of neuroscience, so I oriented it around extending the concept of neuroscience: not the study of neural phenomena, but more broadly around how neuroscience of neural and non-neural cells shows a model system for understanding collective intelligence, and using morphogenesis as a stepping stone model system to show us how to do behavioral experiments in unconventional cognitive agents. I didn't have time for any of the biomedical applications of these ideas (lots of other talks about that) but alluded at the end to some deep questions around the properties of novel cognitive beings and our framework for addressing it. There was a really good Q&A after which will be put up by the original conference organization when they post their version. I'll link it here when it's up. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Defining unconventional minds
(10:05) Scaling cognitive light cones
(15:59) Morphogenesis as collective intelligence
(25:46) Bioelectricity as cognitive glue
(36:56) Reprogramming biological pattern memories
(48:59) Xenobots and synthetic life
(55:15) Platonic origins of order
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Discussion with Marsha Hewitt (Platonic Space and related ideas)
24 september 2026 · 1 uur 3 min
This is a ~1 hour 3 minute conversation with Marsha Hewitt (https://www.trinity.utoronto.ca/profiles/hewitt-marsha/), who wanted to clarify some issues around the Platonic Space and related ideas from the perspective of her teaching students in her philosophy and psychoanalytic psychology of religion class. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Intersecting philosophy and science
(09:52) Ethics of artificial minds
(15:47) Structured space of patterns
(31:20) Embodiment as a filter
(39:36) Dualism versus monism debate
(49:51) Agency in developmental biology
(56:25) Communicating with alien minds
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"Life, Machines, and a Foundation for Synthbiosis" by Michael Levin
22 september 2026 · 22 min
This is a ~21-minute talk titled "Life, Machines, and a Foundation for Synthbiosis" that I gave to the Santa Fe Institute (https://santafe.edu/) conference on "Symbiogenesis in the Age of Machine intelligence" (https://www.santafe.edu/events/symbiogenesis-in-the-age-of-machine-intelligence-2027", September 17 and 18, 2026) Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Space of embodied minds
(03:03) Rewriting bioelectric set points
(06:08) Xenobots and novel beings
(12:04) Molecular networks and learning
(15:26) Mathematics as information source
(18:38) Exploring anatomical morphospace
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Biology, AI, and Diverse Intelligence by Michael Levin
21 september 2026 · 53 min
"Biology, AI, and Diverse Intelligence: what we know and don't know about embodied minds" - a 53-minute talk I gave on what the field of diverse intelligence has to say to AI research (to an audience of non-experts in AI, so it's not very technical on that end). I tried to go a little slower and explain more of the basics and logic. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Defining life and machines
(04:16) Expanding the Eden view
(07:41) Collective cellular intelligence
(15:16) Bioelectricity and goal memories
(22:08) Xenobots and novel beings
(31:03) Causal emergence and math
(41:58) Robotics and cognitive prosthetics
(47:48) Communicating with diverse minds
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A conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy about the evolution of language and brain development
13 september 2026 · 59 min
This is a ~1 hour conversation with Andrey Vyshedskiy (https://www.bu.edu/prsocial/profile/andrey-vyshedskiy/) about the evolution of language, brain mechanisms, implications for autism and developmental disorders, and Andrey's work to develop therapeutic approaches. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Syntactic language network development
(05:37) Three levels of comprehension
(28:55) Neurobiology of sensitive periods
(36:46) Recognizing the syntactic phenotype
(42:24) Theory of mind mechanisms
(48:51) Future levels of intelligence
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Conversation #1 with Diego Bohórquez and Mijail D. Serruya: how information moves levels in bodies
3 september 2026 · 59 min
This is a ~59 minute working meeting where I introduce two very interesting neuroscientists to each other - Diego Bohórquez (https://medicine.duke.edu/profile/diego-v-bohorquez) and Mijail D. Serruya (https://www.jefferson.edu/academics/colleges-schools-institutes/skmc/departments/neurology/faculty/serruya.html) and we discuss ideas around how information moves from the molecular to the behavioral level in bodies and how we might be able to interface with that system via technologies that could lead to biomedical applications and deep insight into diverse intelligence. At the end we discuss one such application briefly - McConnell's professor-burgers. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Gut brain biology foundations
(13:28) Neural interfaces and organoids
(26:18) Information across biological levels
(32:41) Environmental sensing and placebo
(47:32) Translating internal biological dialogue
(54:23) Collaborative next steps
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Conversation #1 with Steven Strogatz
22 augustus 2026 · 56 min
This is a ~56 minute conversation with mathematician Steven Strogatz (https://www.stevenstrogatz.com/) covering issues of explanation in mathematics, Platonism, and related questions. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Mathematical explanation and AI
(07:28) Reductionism across scientific fields
(11:04) Intuition and mathematical deduction
(18:31) Geometry versus algebraic thinking
(24:32) Euler and negative logarithms
(29:38) Mathematical anomalies and patterns
(36:26) Scale of mathematical constants
(46:55) Nature of fundamental constants
(50:08) Pi beyond simple circles
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"Inspiration Across Substrates: free lunches, diverse intelligence and surprise" by Michael Levin
21 augustus 2026 · 52 min
This is a ~52 minute talk on inspiration across substrates and my model of "free lunches" and the Platonic space. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) The concept of inspiration
(03:47) Defining the free lunch
(08:47) Surprising biological plasticity
(14:33) Causal emergence in networks
(17:05) Competencies of synthetic organisms
(25:37) Computational free lunches
(33:50) Navigating diverse problem spaces
(38:53) The platonic cognitive space
(44:00) Ingressions and active patterns
(50:16) Future of ethical symbiosis
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Conversation #1 with Alexey Tolchinsky, Anthony Weiss and Chris Fields
29 juli 2026 · 1 uur 2 min
This is a ~1 hour conversation on the future of mental health from the perspective of the diverse intelligence field, with Alexey Tolchinsky (https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=tiBKmrsAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate), Anthony Weiss (https://www.anthonypweiss.com/about-anthony-weiss), and Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Psychiatry's stalled progress
(04:54) Faulty mental models
(11:36) Tools and treatment goals
(24:06) Nonlinear living systems
(31:21) Energy shaping agency
(41:51) Technology entangles minds
(53:08) Effort and agentic models
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Conversation #1 with
28 juli 2026 · 1 uur 1 min
This is a ~1 hour working meeting with Thomas Pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak, https://drtompollak.substack.com/) and David King (https://profiles.stanford.edu/361883, https://breakingconvention.co.uk/performers/dave-king) about the intersection of neuroscience, mental health, and diverse intelligence research. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Agency in psychiatry
(05:14) Mental real estate
(10:31) Internal agency mechanics
(21:43) Dissociation and multiplicity
(30:04) Interfaces and inspiration
(38:43) Signals and prostheses
(48:18) Psychedelics and entities
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"Diverse Intelligence: new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of Minds by" M. Levin
10 juli 2026 · 54 min
This is a ~54 minute talk titled "Diverse Intelligence: a new frontier for Origins, Possibilities, and Diseases of the Mind(s)" which I gave for an audience composed of mental health professionals and neuroscientists. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Roadmap and stakes
(04:13) Minds as continuum
(08:04) Diverse intelligence framework
(11:12) Biological plasticity examples
(18:18) Morphogenesis as intelligence
(22:31) Multiscale cellular agency
(26:39) Anatomical problem solving
(32:40) Ancient bioelectric networks
(35:34) Communicating somatic goals
(42:02) Cancer and medicine
(46:37) Novel living agents
(51:56) Ethics and summary
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"Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs" by Martin Picard
27 juni 2026 · 57 min
This is a ~57 minute talk titled "Energy Constraints and Tradeoffs: the mitochondrial daily energy expenditure MDEE study" by Martin Picard (https://www.neurology.columbia.edu/profile/martin-picard-phd) and a brief set of ideas by me at the end, presaging a full discussion of this for our next meeting. Lees meer
I mentioned these 2 papers:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0303264722001435
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/bies.201900245
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Mitochondria energy tradeoffs
(52:14) Scarcity coordinates biology
(54:44) Anthrobot aging evidence
(56:31) Follow-up ideas
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"Aging, goal-directedness, and bioelectricity" by Michael Levin
26 juni 2026 · 23 min
This is ~23 minute talk overviewing our recent results and the way we think about aging and longevity. It was for a conference with quite short speaking slots so I had to talk fast... Longer talk coming with more data but this outlines some ideas and overviews our published recent work on aging. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Aging framework overview
(01:16) Bodies as setpoints
(03:08) Anatomical homeostasis examples
(06:40) Bioelectric pattern memory
(08:41) Rewriting biological setpoints
(12:31) Aging bioelectric fuzziness
(14:18) Sharpening brain patterns
(17:34) Cognitive aging hypothesis
(19:42) Atavistic tissue dissociation
(22:21) Species longevity questions
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Computationalism and consciousness with Nic Rouleau, Jaan Aru, and Borjan Milinkovic.
22 juni 2026 · 57 min
Discussion #2 (57 minutes on computationalism and consciousness) with Borjan Milinkovic (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=AwaZbzsAAAAJ&hl=en), Jaan Aru (https://scholar.google.de/citations?user=FvFOzS8AAAAJ&hl=en%29), and Nicolas Rouleau (https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=FyOpVTAAAAAJ&hl=en). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) AI consciousness middle ground
(04:46) Substrate dependent minds
(08:07) Analog computer substrates
(13:44) Zombies and digital computers
(18:56) Polycomputing and observers
(25:01) Felt experience defined
(30:08) Action first embodiment
(34:08) Causal emergence and memory
(42:36) Self versus environment
(46:47) Cognitive light cones
(51:44) Boundary gradients and observers
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Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space by Michael Levin
20 juni 2026 · 50 min
This is a talk I gave, ~49 minutes long, titled "Free Lunches: Model Systems for Studying the Agential Gifts from the Platonic Space", to a philosophy audience. It covers some more ways I think about the latent space of patterns that in-forms biology and cognitive science. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:02) Research program overview
(05:15) Dissolving old categories
(10:54) Goal-directed morphogenesis basics
(14:11) Rewriting bioelectric patterns
(19:23) Novel embodied abilities
(23:35) Molecular agency ratchet
(27:33) Math and living forms
(33:31) Evolutionary accounting breaks
(41:04) High agency patterns
(47:01) Diverse intelligence future
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Platonic Space discussion 5
29 mei 2026 · 1 uur 59 min
This is a ~2 hour discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Strong perception framework
(10:12) Perception model boundaries
(17:41) Penrose and probabilities
(30:57) Quantum interpretations debated
(39:28) Probability dynamics and gravity
(53:50) Relational observer problem
(01:00:30) Dance synchronization physics
(01:12:02) Rituals and group flow
(01:23:43) Boundaries and agency
(01:31:38) Religious possibility spaces
(01:46:30) Numbers in theology
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Platonic Space discussion 4
25 mei 2026 · 2 uur 5 min
This is a ~2 hours 4 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Symposium ( Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Strong anticipation analogy
(08:16) Relational Platonic patterns
(25:06) Finite brains, infinite grammar
(40:05) Beauty and compression
(51:17) Searching for grammar
(01:01:58) Patterns and selfhood
(01:14:44) Patterns claiming territory
(01:29:28) Markets shape selves
(01:43:57) Scaling collective selves
(01:55:47) Testing Platonic feedback
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Discussion #1 with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz, Carlos Gershenson-Garcia, and Richard Watson
19 mei 2026 · 1 uur 4 min
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute discussion with Amahury Jafet Lopez Diaz ( Carlos Gershenson-Garcia ( and Richard Watson ( Stay tuned for part 2 where Amahury will present his ideas in more detail. Amahury's paper: Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Common ground and stakes
(06:10) Ontology of platonic space
(14:50) Testing separate realms
(25:52) Acid tests and metaphors
(34:55) Interaction and narratives
(44:20) Formal facts alternative
(52:38) Experiments and surprise
(01:00:29) Closing reframing proposal
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A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman and Chetan Prakash
11 april 2026 · 1 uur 30 min
This is a ~1.5 hour talk + discussion, titled "A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman ( and Chetan Prakash ( with Robert Chis-Ciure ( and Chris Fields ( and me. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:01) Beyond space-time physics
(10:10) Minimal observer participants
(18:49) Recursive trace logic
(35:08) Actions and trace blankets
(43:45) Physics and agency together
(52:32) Causal emergence and joins
(59:52) Contextuality and quantum logic
(01:06:00) Unitarity and positive geometries
(01:16:29) Consciousness-first mind theories
(01:24:39) Testing models together
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Discussion: Lisa Maroski, Michael Levin, Richard Watson
10 april 2026 · 59 min
This is a ~1 hour discussion with Lisa Maroski ( and Richard Watson ( about the role of language in shaping our thinking in the field of diverse intelligence and beyond. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Language and systems thinking
(04:25) Parts wholes and resonance
(07:34) Who versus what
(12:45) Recursion and new structures
(17:47) Searching for a word
(25:16) Holding multiple polarities
(29:41) Nested biological agency
(35:42) Patterns and Platonic minds
(45:41) Cross-level observers and time
(52:45) Knowing and owning beliefs
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Discussion: Richard Watson, Alexey Tolchinsky, Mark Solms, Michael Levin, and Karl Friston
9 april 2026 · 59 min
This is a ~1 hour meeting with Richard Watson ( Alexey Tolchinsky ( Mark Solms ( and Karl Friston ( where we discuss issues of memory (especially, the role of forgetting) in diverse intelligence (human patients and beyond), and a bit on dreams and psychoanalysis. The original question from me was motivated by some findings on the effects of induced forgetting in models of unconventional cognition ( and more coming soon). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Role of forgetting
(06:22) Overfitting and generalization
(10:45) Accuracy minus complexity
(21:13) REM sleep and transference
(24:40) Choosing futures and pasts
(31:18) Cellular psychotherapy ideas
(34:58) Dreaming of cell phones
(39:47) Photographic memory costs
(44:18) Precision and future paths
(52:25) Collective cellular identity
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Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 2: neuroscience, memory transfer, aging of cognition, and more
3 april 2026 · 56 min
This is a ~55 minute discussion following up on Nic's talk and our brief conversation ( comprising part 2 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend, collaborator, and our Center member, Nicolas Rouleau ( We cover topics of consciousness, neural decoding, the meaning of neuroscience, memory transfer, cognitive plasticity and its relationship to rejuvenation therapies, intelligence throughout the universe, and the weirdest work Nic has done (he chose his work on memory in Playdoh). For more information: Nic's website: X account: @DrNRouleau Recent papers to check out: Sellar, E.P., Rouleau, N. (In Review). A cybernetic framework for synthetic biological intelligence in the era of neural tissue engineering. Preprint doi: 10.31234/osf.io/md2wf_v1. Kansala, C., Cicek, E., Nkansah-Okoree, V., Golding, A., Murugan, N.J., Rouleau, N. (In Review). Superstitious conditioning forms the experience of free will under causal determinism. Preprint doi: 10.31234/osf.io/fk3yt_v2. Roskies, A. & Rouleau, N. (Forthcoming, In Press). Research on brain organoids should prioritize questions of agency, not consciousness. AJOB Neuroscience. Rouleau, N. & Levin, M. (In Press). Brains and where else? Mapping theories of consciousness to unconventional embodiments. Philosophical Transactions: A. Preprint doi:10.1098/rsta.2025.0082. Rouleau, N., Levin, M. (2024), Discussions of machine versus living intelligence need more clarity, Nature Machine Intelligence, doi:10.31219/osf.io/gz3km Rouleau, N., and Levin, M. (2023), The Multiple Realizability of Sentience in Living Systems and Beyond, eNeuro, 10(11), doi:10.1523/eneuro.0375-23.2023 Rouleau, N., Cairns, D. M., Rusk, W., Levin, M., and Kaplan, D. (2021), Learning and synaptic plasticity in 3D bioengineered neural tissues Neuroscience Letters, 750: 135799 Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Rethinking unconscious experience
(07:50) Immortality, memory, and aging
(20:11) Regeneration, identity, and continuity
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Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 1: "Some thoughts on the mind as material"
3 april 2026 · 1 uur
This is a ~1 hour talk and discussion, comprising part 1 of a conversation with a really interesting young neuroscientist, as well as friend, collaborator, and our Center member, Nicolas Rouleau ( Nic goes over unconventional aspects of neuroscience touching on free will, cybernetics, consciousness, and a lot more. We start a discussion which is continued in part 2. For more information: Nic's website: X account: @DrNRouleau Recent papers to check out: Sellar, E.P., Rouleau, N. (In Review). A cybernetic framework for synthetic biological intelligence in the era of neural tissue engineering. Preprint doi: 10.31234/osf.io/md2wf_v1. Kansala, C., Cicek, E., Nkansah-Okoree, V., Golding, A., Murugan, N.J., Rouleau, N. (In Review). Superstitious conditioning forms the experience of free will under causal determinism. Preprint doi: 10.31234/osf.io/fk3yt_v2. Roskies, A. & Rouleau, N. (Forthcoming, In Press). Research on brain organoids should prioritize questions of agency, not consciousness. AJOB Neuroscience. Rouleau, N. & Levin, M. (In Press). Brains and where else? Mapping theories of consciousness to unconventional embodiments. Philosophical Transactions: A. Preprint doi:10.1098/rsta.2025.0082. Rouleau, N., Levin, M. (2024), Discussions of machine versus living intelligence need more clarity, Nature Machine Intelligence, doi:10.31219/osf.io/gz3km Rouleau, N., and Levin, M. (2023), The Multiple Realizability of Sentience in Living Systems and Beyond, eNeuro, 10(11), doi:10.1523/eneuro.0375-23.2023 Rouleau, N., Cairns, D. M., Rusk, W., Levin, M., and Kaplan, D. (2021), Learning and synaptic plasticity in 3D bioengineered neural tissues Neuroscience Letters, 750: 135799 Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Free will, minds, transmission
(26:52) Material brains after death
(31:18) Defining free will experience
(38:00) Long-term agency and algorithms
(49:35) Causality, math, and consciousness
(57:33) Transmissive consciousness and information
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Conversation 2 with Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, and Karen Quigley
24 maart 2026 · 59 min
This is a second conversation with Lisa Barrett ( Karen Quigley ( and Benjamin Lyons ( about Relational Realism, allostasis, and questions of mind/body/behavior. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Rethinking emotion universals
(09:34) Brain evolution and allostasis
(17:25) Predictive processing and signaling
(30:05) Objectivity and first-person science
(38:45) Flexible body-world boundaries
(45:46) Relational meaning in perception
(52:06) Embodiment, morphospace and realism
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Cancer: mitochondria and metabolism - a discussion with Thomas Seyfried and his group
17 maart 2026 · 1 uur 23 min
This is a 1hr + 23 minutes talk and conversation with Thomas Seyfried, Derek Lee and Tomás Duraj ( Juanita Mathews from my group ( about their work on the metabolic and mitochondrial aspects of cancer. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Metabolic nature of cancer
(08:52) Mitochondrial theory of cancer
(34:00) Metabolic therapy in practice
(40:39) Mitochondria and morphogenetic fields
(45:21) Ion channels and metabolism
(53:01) Bioelectric control and regeneration
(01:09:03) Mouse versus human models
(01:15:19) Mitochondria, aging, and disease
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"On Biological and Artificial Consciousness" by Borjan Milinkovic and Jaan Aru
5 maart 2026 · 54 min
This is a ~53 minute talk + 14 minute Q&A titled "On Biological and Artificial Consciousness: a case for biological computationalism" by Borjan Milinkovic ( and Jaan Aru ( Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Speaker background and research
(03:16) Motivation and philosophical landscape
(09:32) Von Neumann architecture
(15:39) Computational metaphor in neuroscience
(22:52) Metabolic constraints in neurons
(29:04) Heterarchy and scale integration
(33:55) Empirical scale integration findings
(38:00) Hybrid computation in dendrites
(43:16) Field-based neural computation
(47:48) Implications for synthetic consciousness
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Platonic Space discussion 3
5 februari 2026 · 1 uur 44 min
This is a ~1 hours 44 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/). Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Platonic forms and interaction
(07:01) Xenobots and evolutionary cost
(11:23) Symbiosis, rectifiers, embeddings
(18:06) Free lunches in biology
(27:59) Topology of competency space
(39:53) Exploration, play, affordances
(48:01) Markov blankets and evolution
(57:51) Relational life and observers
(01:04:10) Defining play and plasticity
(01:20:35) Thermodynamics and domesticated play
(01:29:32) Will to live dynamics
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Conversation with Darren Iammarino #1
4 februari 2026 · 55 min
This is a ~54 minute conversation with Darren Iammarino (https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=YNrxRaYAAAAJ&view_op=list_works) about open problems with respect to the Platonic Space model. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Patterns, minds, and causation
(09:18) Interfaces and positive pressure
(21:50) Randomness and new universals
(31:21) Quantum randomness and scale
(39:16) Cyborg minds and identity
(50:18) Unconventional minds and substrates
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"The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis" by Michael Levin
30 januari 2026 · 58 min
This is a ~57 minute talk titled "The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis: development, regeneration, cancer, and beyond" which I gave at a UCSF seminar for an audience of graduate students and post-docs in Biophysics, Bioinformatics, and Chemical Biology. I covered the role of bioelectricity as cognitive glue underlying high-level adaptive plasticity in living tissue, recent progress in exploiting that interface, and new developments in research platforms for this field. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Framing bioelectricity's role
(09:28) Morphogenesis as goal-directed
(22:45) Bioelectric control of form
(35:10) Rewriting anatomical set points
(43:55) Cancer and aging bioelectricity
(49:36) AI, anthrobots, and outlook
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Discussion #1 at the Platonic Space Symposium
21 januari 2026 · 1 uur 41 min
This is a ~1 hour 40 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/) Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Math, identity and realms
(16:08) Convergence, abstraction and attractors
(34:05) Attractors, stress and observers
(41:29) Realms, impossibility and simulation
(51:40) Simulation, explanation and understanding
(01:04:39) Mind everywhere and agency
(01:19:19) Content, communication and creativity
(01:30:42) Boundaries, scale and space
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Conversation 1 with Mijail Serruya, Alessandro Napoli, and Wesley Clawson
18 januari 2026 · 59 min
This is a ~1 hour conversation with (including a short talk by) Mijail Serruya (https://research.jefferson.edu/labs/researcher/serruya-research.html), Alessandro Napoli (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-napoli-8383a164/), and Wes Clawson (https://allencenter.tufts.edu/wesley-clawson-staff-scientist/). We talk about brain-body-machine interfaces, the clinical aspects and the deeper conceptual connections. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Introductions and BCI vision
(16:32) Platypus-inspired brain augmentation
(24:28) Plasticity, aging, and models
(39:37) Self-organizing neural interfaces
(49:58) Hypnosis, regeneration, and BCIs
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Conversation 1 w/ Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, Eli Sennesh, Jordan Theriault-Brown, and Karen Quigley
17 januari 2026 · 56 min
This is a discussion with with Lisa Feldman Barrett (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en), Benjamin Lyons (https://interestingessays.substack.com/), Eli Sennesh (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3z4ALYgAAAAJ), Jordan Theriault-Brown (http://www.jordan-theriault.com/), and Karen Quigley (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=aZ3qhVUAAAAJ&hl=en) about topics related to allostasis and top-down control across cognitive science and developmental biology. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Framing interdisciplinary synthesis
(03:18) Bioelectric collective intelligence
(16:00) Constraints versus bioelectric memory
(20:06) Neurodevelopment and allostasis
(27:10) Plasticity and dirty genomes
(35:59) Relational structure and constraints
(40:24) Agency across biological scales
(45:04) Goal-like molecular networks
(48:49) Allostasis and control hierarchies
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"Evolution and Intelligence: inversion and a positive feedback spiral" by Michael Levin
15 januari 2026 · 50 min
This is a ~50 minute video on evolution from the perspective of diverse intelligence. I discuss 3 main things: the nature of the mapping between genotype and phenotype (an intelligent, problem-solving process that interprets genomic prompts, not simply a complex mechanical mapping), the implications for evolution of operating over such a multi-scale agential material, and a few recent findings about the origin of the intelligence spiral taking place before differential replication dynamics kick in. Lees meer
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Framing evolution and intelligence
(06:26) Morphogenesis as collective intelligence
(12:06) Regeneration and downward causation
(16:10) Bioelectric patterning and memory
(21:05) Reprogrammable adaptive anatomies
(26:06) Interpretation, plasticity and evolution
(31:58) Competent matter and evolvability
(35:45) Novel beings and emergence
(41:54) Prebiotic learning and agency
(46:43) Mind beyond life
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“The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine”
11 december 2025 · 47 min
This is a ~46 minute talk by Michael Levin titled “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” given at a developmental biology/bioengineering symposium, explaining the connections between the cognitive/behavioral sciences and the study of morphogenesis, from the lens of our framework and new technology. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Behavioral Science Foundations
(05:57) Agential Cells And Morphospace
(10:47) Goal Directed Regeneration Examples
(18:16) Bioelectric Pattern Memories
(23:32) Exploring Morphological Plasticity
(31:54) Learning Regeneration And Cancer
(36:10) Novel Bioengineered Living Machines
(41:22) Future Minds And Ethics
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Discussion #1 with Katrina Schleisman and David Burke
10 december 2025 · 55 min
This is a ~54 minute conversation with Katrina Schleisman (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman) and David Burke (https://www.galois.com/team/david-burke) about issues related to memory, Platonism, diverse intelligence, and similar topics. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Paper comments and impetus
(01:38) Math-physics causal dualism
(06:19) Unreasonable effectiveness and foundations
(12:54) Active Platonic patterns learning
(19:36) Verbs, affordances, pattern agency
(29:04) Math gifts before evolution
(35:43) Cognition, life, and idealism
(43:21) Hidden messages and memory
(47:42) Resonant patterns, chance, synchronicity
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Conversation with David Resnik 1
1 december 2025 · 53 min
This is a ~52 minute conversation with philosopher David Resnik (https://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/bioethics/bioethicist) about the Platonic Space model and our plan for a new paper about a different variant of it than what I've been writing so far. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Morphogenesis and latent space
(15:19) Platonism's scientific utility
(27:06) Explanation, models, morphospace
(36:51) Models, journals, writing
(43:33) Mathematical patterns in evolution
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Discussion #1 with Elan Barenholtz
30 november 2025 · 58 min
This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) about language and its possible autonomy in brains, AI models, and other systems linking to our lab's work on active data and the thoughts-thinkers continuum. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Language As Auto-Generator
(21:14) Virtual Governors In Physiology
(30:37) Mathematics, Metaphysics, Free Lunches
(40:40) Language Models As Evidence
(49:46) Minimal Systems, Language Criteria
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Conversation 1 with Diana Moga, Alexey Tolchinsky, and Chris Fields
29 november 2025 · 52 min
This is a ~52 minute discussion between Diana Moga (https://www.dianamogamd.com/), Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), and I on topics related to autism, ketamine-assisted therapy, and the linking of these concepts to somatic biology. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Ketamine, Trauma, Defining Autism
(06:12) Trauma, Gender, Autism Models
(13:14) Autistic Phenomenological Patterns
(19:23) Autism Neurotypical Continuum Traits
(24:15) Assessments, Attention, Social Trauma
(31:25) Opposite Minds, Hyperplasticity
(38:21) Experiments, Translation, Environments
(44:51) Dimensionality and Collective Behavior
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Conversation 1 with Nora Belrose: AI, sentience, and Platonic Space
23 november 2025 · 1 uur 6 min
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute conversation between Nora Belrose (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en) and me on the topics of consciousness, AI, and different views of the Platonic Space. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Introductions and Moral Risks
(09:11) Intelligence, Sentience, Irreversibility
(16:38) Digital Copies and Value
(24:54) Dynamic Platonic Mindspace
(35:19) Passable Forms, Cosmic Memory
(44:06) Changing Forms, Light Cones
(55:00) LLMs, Goals, Simulation
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Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Thomas Pollak 2
22 november 2025 · 56 min
This is a ~1 hour conversation between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), a clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor at The George Washington University, Center for Professional Psychology, and Thomas Pollak (https://orcid.org/0000-0002-6171-0810), a neuropsychiatrist and researcher working at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King's College London. We discussed the implications of rejuvenation therapies for cognition and some strategies for upcoming experiments on Anthrobots. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Rejuvenation, memory, wisdom
(14:07) Cancer and tissue resilience
(20:17) Brainwashing, suggestion, belief
(27:24) Placebo, xenobots, resilience
(34:46) Patient anthrobot models
(45:45) Psychiatric phenotypes in cells
(52:24) Cryogenic reset and organoids
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Discussion #1 with Chris Fields, Mark Solms, Karl Friston, and Thomas Pollak: introspection & more
21 november 2025 · 1 uur 5 min
This is a ~1 hour 5 minute working conversation with Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), Mark Solms (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vD4p8rQAAAAJ&hl=en), Karl Friston (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=q_4u0aoAAAAJ&hl=en), and Thomas Pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak) starting on the topic of variable degrees of introspection in natural and synthetic agents, and how that looks from the active inference framework, and moves into related topics of application of cognitive plasticity to regenerative biology. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Optimal introspection in agents
(12:56) Consciousness, feeling, clinical introspection
(24:44) Controlling preferences and desires
(35:19) Modifying prior preferences therapeutically
(42:04) Regeneration, biodomes, cellular priors
(52:46) Life missions and pathology
(59:08) Reboots, psychedelics, guided plasticity
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"Entropic motivation and the roots of agency"by Alex Kiefer
17 november 2025 · 1 uur 3 min
This is a ~35 min talk titled "Entropic motivation and the roots of agency" by Alex Kiefer (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer) + ~25 min discussion of the issues of motivation in artificial and natural agents. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Entropy, Motivation, Psychophysical Identity
(35:45) Willpower, Purpose, Buddhist Motivation
(45:57) Emergent Goals and Uncertainty
(58:06) Platonic Patterns and Wrap-up
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"Unconventional Embodiments: model systems & strategies addressing mind-blindness" by Michael Levin
11 november 2025 · 47 min
This is a ~45 minute talk for an embodied cognition audience, covering my framework for diverse intelligence, our use of morphogenesis as a model system for communicating with unconventional minds, and my views on our new MomBot platform and how it helps understand the symmetries between science and agency, and the novel group minds consisting of technology, living matter, and scientists themselves. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Framing Novel Beings
(04:56) Developmental Mind Continuum
(09:40) Memory Beyond Brains
(15:08) Cells Navigating Morphospace
(18:13) Cognitive Light Cones
(22:38) Bioelectric Communication Interface
(29:51) Xenobots and Anthrobots
(35:45) MomBot Embodied AI
(42:47) Applications and Ethical Futures
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"Platonic Space: brief argument and research agenda" by Michael Levin
29 oktober 2025 · 18 min
This is a brief (~17 minute) introduction to my argument about Platonic space in biology, using a 1-page simplified argument format and then a quick overview of the research program entailed by it. Lees meer
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Mathematical facts and patterns
(01:46) Math explains physical reality
(04:28) Physicalism and Platonic space
(06:17) Structured space of patterns
(07:31) Beyond mathematics, agential patterns
(10:00) Rehabilitating scientific dualism
(11:08) Nonbiological hosts for patterns
(12:33) Patterns, goals, and emergence
(13:44) Interfaces into Platonic space
(15:07) Mind–brain equals math–physics
(16:00) Practical research program outlined
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