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Imagine A World: What if global challenges led to more centralization?
12 september 2023 · 1 uur
What if we had one advanced AI system for the entire world? Would this led to a world 'beyond' nation states - and do we want this? Lees meer
Imagine a World is a podcast exploring a range of plausible and positive futures with advanced AI, produced by the Future of Life Institute. We interview the creators of 8 diverse and thought provoking imagined futures that we received as part of the worldbuilding contest FLI ran last year.
In the third episode of Imagine A World, we explore the fictional worldbuild titled 'Core Central'.
How does a team of seven academics agree on one cohesive imagined world? That's a question the team behind 'Core Central', a second-place prizewinner in the FLI Worldbuilding Contest, had to figure out as they went along. In the end, this entry's realistic sense of multipolarity and messiness reflect positively its organic formulation. The team settled on one core, centralised AGI system as the governance model for their entire world. This eventually moves their world 'beyond' nation states. Could this really work?
In this third episode of 'Imagine a World', Guillaume Riesen speaks to two of the academics in this team, John Burden and Henry Shevlin, representing the team that created 'Core Central'. The full team includes seven members, three of whom (Henry, John and Beba Cibralic) are researchers at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, University of Cambridge, and five of whom (Jessica Bland, Lara Mani, Clarissa Rios Rojas, Catherine Richards alongside John) work with the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk, also at Cambridge University.
Please note: This episode explores the ideas created as part of FLI’s worldbuilding contest, and our hope is that this series sparks discussion about the kinds of futures we want. The ideas present in these imagined worlds and in our podcast are not to be taken as FLI endorsed positions.
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The podcast is produced by the Future…
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Tom Davidson on How Quickly AI Could Automate the Economy
8 september 2023 · 1 uur 56 min
Tom Davidson joins the podcast to discuss how AI could quickly automate most cognitive tasks, including AI research, and why this would be risky. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 The current pace of AI
03:58 Near-term risks from AI
09:34 Historical analogies to AI
13:58 AI benchmarks VS economic impact
18:30 AI takeoff speed and bottlenecks
31:09 Tom's model of AI takeoff speed
36:21 How AI could automate AI research
41:49 Bottlenecks to AI automating AI hardware
46:15 How much of AI research is automated now?
48:26 From 20% to 100% automation
53:24 AI takeoff in 3 years
1:09:15 Economic impacts of fast AI takeoff
1:12:51 Bottlenecks slowing AI takeoff
1:20:06 Does the market predict a fast AI takeoff?
1:25:39 "Hard to avoid AGI by 2060"
1:27:22 Risks from AI over the next 20 years
1:31:43 AI progress without more compute
1:44:01 What if AI models fail safety evaluations?
1:45:33 Cybersecurity at AI companies
1:47:33 Will AI turn out well for humanity?
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Imagine A World: What if we designed and built AI in an inclusive way?
5 september 2023 · 53 min
How does who is involved in the design of AI affect the possibilities for our future? Why isn’t the design of AI inclusive already? Can technology solve all our problems? Can human nature change? Do we want either of these things to happen? Lees meer
Imagine a World is a podcast exploring a range of plausible and positive futures with advanced AI, produced by the Future of Life Institute. We interview the creators of 8 diverse and thought provoking imagined futures that we received as part of the worldbuilding contest FLI ran last year
In this second episode of Imagine A World we explore the fictional worldbuild titled 'Crossing Points', a second place entry in FLI's worldbuilding contest.
Joining Guillaume Riesen on the Imagine a World podcast this time are two members of the Crossing Points team, Elaine Czech and Vanessa Hanschke, both academics at the University of Bristol. Elaine has a background in art and design, and is studying the accessibility of technologies for the elderly. Vanessa is studying responsible AI practices of technologists, using methods like storytelling to promote diverse voices in AI research. Their teammates in the contest were Tashi Namgyal, a University of Bristol PhD studying the controllability of deep generative models, Dr. Susan Lechelt, who researches the applications and implications of emerging technologies at the University of Edinburgh, and Nicol Ogston, a British civil servant.
There's an emphasis on the unanticipated impacts of new technologies on those who weren't considered during their development. From urban families in Indonesia to anti-technology extremists in America, we're shown that there's something to learn from every human story. This world emphasizes the importance of broadening our lens and empowering marginalized voices in order to build a future that would be bright for more than just a privileged few.
The world of Crossing Points looks pretty different from our own, with advanced AIs debating philosophy on TV and …
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Imagine A World: What if new governance mechanisms helped us coordinate?
5 september 2023 · 1 uur 3 min
Are today's democratic systems equipped well enough to create the best possible future for everyone? If they're not, what systems might work better? And are governments around the world taking the destabilizing threats of new technologies seriously enough, or will it take a dramatic event, such as an AI-driven war, to get their act together? Lees meer
Imagine a World is a podcast exploring a range of plausible and positive futures with advanced AI, produced by the Future of Life Institute. We interview the creators of 8 diverse and thought provoking imagined futures that we received as part of the worldbuilding contest FLI ran last year.
In this first episode of Imagine A World we explore the fictional worldbuild titled 'Peace Through Prophecy'.
Host Guillaume Riesen speaks to the makers of 'Peace Through Prophecy', a second place entry in FLI's Worldbuilding Contest. The worldbuild was created by Jackson Wagner, Diana Gurvich and Holly Oatley. In the episode, Jackson and Holly discuss just a few of the many ideas bubbling around in their imagined future.
At its core, this world is arguably about community. It asks how technology might bring us closer together, and allow us to reinvent our social systems. Many roads are explored, a whole garden of governance systems bolstered by Artificial Intelligence and other technologies. Overall, there's a shift towards more intimate and empowered communities. Even the AI systems eventually come to see their emotional and creative potentials realized. While progress is uneven, and littered with many human setbacks, a pretty good case is made for how everyone's best interests can lead us to a more positive future.
Please note: This episode explores the ideas created as part of FLI’s Worldbuilding contest, and our hope is that this series sparks discussion about the kinds of futures we want. The ideas present in these imagined worlds and in our podcast are not to be taken as FLI endorsed positions
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New: Imagine A World Podcast [TRAILER]
29 augustus 2023 · 2 min
Coming Soon… Lees meer
The year is 2045. Humanity is not extinct, nor living in a dystopia. It has averted climate disaster and major wars. Instead, AI and other new technologies are helping to make the world more peaceful, happy and equal. How? This was what we asked the entrants of our Worldbuilding Contest to imagine last year.
Our new podcast series digs deeper into the eight winning entries, their ideas and solutions, the diverse teams behind them and the challenges they faced. You might love some; others you might not choose to inhabit. FLI is not endorsing any one idea. Rather, we hope to grow the conversation about what futures people get excited about.
Ask yourself, with each episode, is this a world you’d want to live in? And if not, what would you prefer?
Don’t miss the first two episodes coming to your feed at the start of September!
In the meantime, do explore the winning worlds, if you haven’t already: https://worldbuild.ai/
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Robert Trager on International AI Governance and Cybersecurity at AI Companies
20 augustus 2023 · 1 uur 44 min
Robert Trager joins the podcast to discuss AI governance, the incentives of governments and companies, the track record of international regulation, the security dilemma in AI, cybersecurity at AI companies, and skepticism about AI governance. We also discuss Robert's forthcoming paper International Governance of Civilian AI: A Jurisdictional Certification Approach. You can read more about Robert's work at https://www.governance.ai Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 The goals of AI governance
08:38 Incentives of governments and companies
18:58 Benefits of regulatory diversity
28:50 The track record of anticipatory regulation
37:55 The security dilemma in AI
46:20 Offense-defense balance in AI
53:27 Failure rates and international agreements
1:00:33 Verification of compliance
1:07:50 Controlling AI supply chains
1:13:47 Cybersecurity at AI companies
1:21:30 The jurisdictional certification approach
1:28:40 Objections to AI governance -
Jason Crawford on Progress and Risks from AI
21 juli 2023 · 1 uur 26 min
Jason Crawford joins the podcast to discuss the history of progress, the future of economic growth, and the relationship between progress and risks from AI. You can read more about Jason's work at https://rootsofprogress.org Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Eras of human progress
06:47 Flywheels of progress
17:56 Main causes of progress
21:01 Progress and risk
32:49 Safety as part of progress
45:20 Slowing down specific technologies?
52:29 Four lenses on AI risk
58:48 Analogies causing disagreement
1:00:54 Solutionism about AI
1:10:43 Insurance, subsidies, and bug bounties for AI risk
1:13:24 How is AI different from other technologies?
1:15:54 Future scenarios of economic growth -
Special: Jaan Tallinn on Pausing Giant AI Experiments
6 juli 2023 · 1 uur 41 min
On this special episode of the podcast, Jaan Tallinn talks with Nathan Labenz about Jaan's model of AI risk, the future of AI development, and pausing giant AI experiments. Lees meer
Timestamps:
0:00 Nathan introduces Jaan
4:22 AI safety and Future of Life Institute
5:55 Jaan's first meeting with Eliezer Yudkowsky
12:04 Future of AI evolution
14:58 Jaan's investments in AI companies
23:06 The emerging danger paradigm
26:53 Economic transformation with AI
32:31 AI supervising itself
34:06 Language models and validation
38:49 Lack of insight into evolutionary selection process
41:56 Current estimate for life-ending catastrophe
44:52 Inverse scaling law
53:03 Our luck given the softness of language models
55:07 Future of language models
59:43 The Moore's law of mad science
1:01:45 GPT-5 type project
1:07:43 The AI race dynamics
1:09:43 AI alignment with the latest models
1:13:14 AI research investment and safety
1:19:43 What a six-month pause buys us
1:25:44 AI passing the Turing Test
1:28:16 AI safety and risk
1:32:01 Responsible AI development.
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Joe Carlsmith on How We Change Our Minds About AI Risk
22 juni 2023 · 2 uur 24 min
Joe Carlsmith joins the podcast to discuss how we change our minds about AI risk, gut feelings versus abstract models, and what to do if transformative AI is coming soon. You can read more about Joe's work at https://joecarlsmith.com. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Predictable updating on AI risk
07:27 Abstract models versus gut feelings
22:06 How Joe began believing in AI risk
29:06 Is AI risk falsifiable?
35:39 Types of skepticisms about AI risk
44:51 Are we fundamentally confused?
53:35 Becoming alienated from ourselves?
1:00:12 What will change people's minds?
1:12:34 Outline of different futures
1:20:43 Humanity losing touch with reality
1:27:14 Can we understand AI sentience?
1:36:31 Distinguishing real from fake sentience
1:39:54 AI doomer epistemology
1:45:23 AI benchmarks versus real-world AI
1:53:00 AI improving AI research and development
2:01:08 What if transformative AI comes soon?
2:07:21 AI safety if transformative AI comes soon
2:16:52 AI systems interpreting other AI systems
2:19:38 Philosophy and transformative AISocial Media Links:
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Dan Hendrycks on Why Evolution Favors AIs over Humans
8 juni 2023 · 2 uur 27 min
Dan Hendrycks joins the podcast to discuss evolutionary dynamics in AI development and how we could develop AI safely. You can read more about Dan's work at https://www.safe.ai Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Corporate AI race
06:28 Evolutionary dynamics in AI
25:26 Why evolution applies to AI
50:58 Deceptive AI
1:06:04 Competition erodes safety
10:17:40 Evolutionary fitness: humans versus AI
1:26:32 Different paradigms of AI risk
1:42:57 Interpreting AI systems
1:58:03 Honest AI and uncertain AI
2:06:52 Empirical and conceptual work
2:12:16 Losing touch with realitySocial Media Links:
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Roman Yampolskiy on Objections to AI Safety
26 mei 2023 · 1 uur 42 min
Roman Yampolskiy joins the podcast to discuss various objections to AI safety, impossibility results for AI, and how much risk civilization should accept from emerging technologies. You can read more about Roman's work at http://cecs.louisville.edu/ry/ Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Objections to AI safety
15:06 Will robots make AI risks salient?
27:51 Was early AI safety research useful?
37:28 Impossibility results for AI
47:25 How much risk should we accept?
1:01:21 Exponential or S-curve?
1:12:27 Will AI accidents increase?
1:23:56 Will we know who was right about AI?
1:33:33 Difference between AI output and AI modelSocial Media Links:
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Nathan Labenz on How AI Will Transform the Economy
11 mei 2023 · 1 uur 7 min
Nathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the economic effects of AI on growth, productivity, and employment. We also talk about whether AI might have catastrophic effects on the world. You can read more about Nathan's work at https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Economic transformation from AI
11:15 Productivity increases from technology
17:44 AI effects on employment
28:43 Life without jobs
38:42 Losing contact with reality
42:31 Catastrophic risks from AI
53:52 Scaling AI training runs
1:02:39 Stable opinions on AI?Social Media Links:
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Nathan Labenz on the Cognitive Revolution, Red Teaming GPT-4, and Potential Dangers of AI
4 mei 2023 · 1 uur
Nathan Labenz joins the podcast to discuss the cognitive revolution, his experience red teaming GPT-4, and the potential near-term dangers of AI. You can read more about Nathan's work at
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00:00 The cognitive revolution
07:47 Red teaming GPT-4
24:00 Coming to believe in transformative AI
30:14 Is AI depth or breadth most impressive?
42:52 Potential near-term dangers from AISocial Media Links:
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Maryanna Saenko on Venture Capital, Philanthropy, and Ethical Technology
27 april 2023 · 1 uur 18 min
Maryanna Saenko joins the podcast to discuss how venture capital works, how to fund innovation, and what the fields of investing and philanthropy could learn from each other. You can read more about Maryanna's work at https://future.ventures Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 How does venture capital work?
09:01 Failure and success for startups
13:22 Is overconfidence necessary?
19:20 Repeat entrepreneurs
24:38 Long-term investing
30:36 Feedback loops from investments
35:05 Timing investments
38:35 The hardware-software dichotomy
42:19 Innovation prizes
45:43 VC lessons for philanthropy
51:03 Creating new markets
54:01 Investing versus philanthropy
56:14 Technology preying on human frailty
1:00:55 Are good ideas getting harder to find?
1:06:17 Artificial intelligence
1:12:41 Funding ethics research
1:14:25 Is philosophy useful?Social Media Links:
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Connor Leahy on the State of AI and Alignment Research
20 april 2023 · 52 min
Connor Leahy joins the podcast to discuss the state of the AI. Which labs are in front? Which alignment solutions might work? How will the public react to more capable AI? You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Landscape of AI research labs
10:13 Is AGI a useful term?
13:31 AI predictions
17:56 Reinforcement learning from human feedback
29:53 Mechanistic interpretability
33:37 Yudkowsky and Christiano
41:39 Cognitive Emulations
43:11 Public reactions to AISocial Media Links:
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Connor Leahy on AGI and Cognitive Emulation
13 april 2023 · 1 uur 37 min
Connor Leahy joins the podcast to discuss GPT-4, magic, cognitive emulation, demand for human-like AI, and aligning superintelligence. You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 GPT-4
16:35 "Magic" in machine learning
27:43 Cognitive emulations
38:00 Machine learning VS explainability
48:00 Human data = human AI?
1:00:07 Analogies for cognitive emulations
1:26:03 Demand for human-like AI
1:31:50 Aligning superintelligenceSocial Media Links:
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Lennart Heim on Compute Governance
6 april 2023 · 50 min
Lennart Heim joins the podcast to discuss options for governing the compute used by AI labs and potential problems with this approach to AI safety. You can read more about Lennart's work here: https://heim.xyz/about/ Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:37 AI risk
03:33 Why focus on compute?
11:27 Monitoring compute
20:30 Restricting compute
26:54 Subsidising compute
34:00 Compute as a bottleneck
38:41 US and China
42:14 Unintended consequences
46:50 Will AI be like nuclear energy?Social Media Links:
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Lennart Heim on the AI Triad: Compute, Data, and Algorithms
30 maart 2023 · 48 min
Lennart Heim joins the podcast to discuss how we can forecast AI progress by researching AI hardware. You can read more about Lennart's work here: https://heim.xyz/about/ Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 The AI triad
06:26 Modern chip production
15:54 Forecasting AI with compute
27:18 Running out of data?
32:37 Three eras of AI training
37:58 Next chip paradigm
44:21 AI takeoff speedsSocial Media Links:
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Liv Boeree on Poker, GPT-4, and the Future of AI
23 maart 2023 · 52 min
Liv Boeree joins the podcast to discuss poker, GPT-4, human-AI interaction, whether this is the most important century, and building a dataset of human wisdom. You can read more about Liv's work here: https://livboeree.com Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:36 AI in Poker
09:35 Game-playing AI
13:45 GPT-4 and generative AI
26:41 Human-AI interaction
32:05 AI arms race risks
39:32 Most important century?
42:36 Diminishing returns to intelligence?
49:14 Dataset of human wisdom/meaningSocial Media Links:
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Liv Boeree on Moloch, Beauty Filters, Game Theory, Institutions, and AI
16 maart 2023 · 42 min
Liv Boeree joins the podcast to discuss Moloch, beauty filters, game theory, institutional change, and artificial intelligence. You can read more about Liv's work here: https://livboeree.com Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:57 What is Moloch?
04:13 Beauty filters
10:06 Science citations
15:18 Resisting Moloch
20:51 New institutions
26:02 Moloch and WinWin
28:41 Changing systems
33:37 Artificial intelligence
39:14 AI accelerationSocial Media Links:
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Tobias Baumann on Space Colonization and Cooperative Artificial Intelligence
9 maart 2023 · 43 min
Tobias Baumann joins the podcast to discuss suffering risks, space colonization, and cooperative artificial intelligence. You can read more about Tobias' work here: https://centerforreducingsuffering.org. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Suffering risks
02:50 Space colonization
10:12 Moral circle expansion
19:14 Cooperative artificial intelligence
36:19 Influencing governments
39:34 Can we reduce suffering?Social Media Links:
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Tobias Baumann on Artificial Sentience and Reducing the Risk of Astronomical Suffering
2 maart 2023 · 47 min
Tobias Baumann joins the podcast to discuss suffering risks, artificial sentience, and the problem of knowing which actions reduce suffering in the long-term future. You can read more about Tobias' work here: https://centerforreducingsuffering.org. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:52 What are suffering risks?
05:40 Artificial sentience
17:18 Is reducing suffering hopelessly difficult?
26:06 Can we know how to reduce suffering?
31:17 Why are suffering risks neglected?
37:31 How do we avoid accidentally increasing suffering?Social Media Links:
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Neel Nanda on Math, Tech Progress, Aging, Living up to Our Values, and Generative AI
23 februari 2023 · 35 min
Neel Nanda joins the podcast for a lightning round on mathematics, technological progress, aging, living up to our values, and generative AI. You can find his blog here: https://www.neelnanda.io Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:55 How useful is advanced mathematics?
02:24 Will AI replace mathematicians?
03:28 What are the key drivers of tech progress?
04:13 What scientific discovery would disrupt Neel's worldview?
05:59 How should humanity view aging?
08:03 How can we live up to our values?
10:56 What can we learn from a person who lived 1.000 years ago?
12:05 What should we do after we have aligned AGI?
16:19 What important concept is often misunderstood?
17:22 What is the most impressive scientific discovery?
18:08 Are language models better learning tools that textbooks?
21:22 Should settling Mars be a priority for humanity?
22:44 How can we focus on our work?
24:04 Are human-AI relationships morally okay?
25:18 Are there aliens in the universe?
26:02 What are Neel's favourite books?
27:15 What is an overlooked positive aspect of humanity?
28:33 Should people spend more time prepping for disaster?
30:41 Neel's advice for teens.
31:55 How will generative AI evolve over the next five years?
32:56 How much can AIs achieve through a web browser?Social Media Links:
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Neel Nanda on Avoiding an AI Catastrophe with Mechanistic Interpretability
16 februari 2023 · 1 uur 2 min
Neel Nanda joins the podcast to talk about mechanistic interpretability and how it can make AI safer. Neel is an independent AI safety researcher. You can find his blog here: https://www.neelnanda.io Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:46 How early is the field mechanistic interpretability?
03:12 Why should we care about mechanistic interpretability?
06:38 What are some successes in mechanistic interpretability?
16:29 How promising is mechanistic interpretability?
31:13 Is machine learning analogous to evolution?
32:58 How does mechanistic interpretability make AI safer?
36:54 36:54 Does mechanistic interpretability help us control AI?
39:57 Will AI models resist interpretation?
43:43 Is mechanistic interpretability fast enough?
54:10 Does mechanistic interpretability give us a general understanding?
57:44 How can you help with mechanistic interpretability?Social Media Links:
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Neel Nanda on What is Going on Inside Neural Networks
9 februari 2023 · 1 uur 5 min
Neel Nanda joins the podcast to explain how we can understand neural networks using mechanistic interpretability. Neel is an independent AI safety researcher. You can find his blog here: https://www.neelnanda.io Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Who is Neel?
04:41 How did Neel choose to work on AI safety?
12:57 What does an AI safety researcher do?
15:53 How analogous are digital neural networks to brains?
21:34 Are neural networks like alien beings?
29:13 Can humans think like AIs?
35:00 Can AIs help us discover new physics?
39:56 How advanced is the field of AI safety?
45:56 How did Neel form independent opinions on AI?
48:20 How does AI safety research decrease the risk of extinction?Social Media Links:
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Connor Leahy on Aliens, Ethics, Economics, Memetics, and Education
2 februari 2023 · 1 uur 6 min
Connor Leahy from Conjecture joins the podcast for a lightning round on a variety of topics ranging from aliens to education. Learn more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev Lees meer
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Connor Leahy on AI Safety and Why the World is Fragile
26 januari 2023 · 1 uur 5 min
Connor Leahy from Conjecture joins the podcast to discuss AI safety, the fragility of the world, slowing down AI development, regulating AI, and the optimal funding model for AI safety research. Learn more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:47 What is the best way to understand AI safety?
09:50 Why is the world relatively stable?
15:18 Is the main worry human misuse of AI?
22:47 Can humanity solve AI safety?
30:06 Can we slow down AI development?
37:13 How should governments regulate AI?
41:09 How do we avoid misallocating AI safety government grants?
51:02 Should AI safety research be done by for-profit companies?Social Media Links:
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Connor Leahy on AI Progress, Chimps, Memes, and Markets
19 januari 2023 · 1 uur 4 min
Connor Leahy from Conjecture joins the podcast to discuss AI progress, chimps, memes, and markets. Learn more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Defining artificial general intelligence
04:52 What makes humans more powerful than chimps?
17:23 Would AIs have to be social to be intelligent?
20:29 Importing humanity's memes into AIs
23:07 How do we measure progress in AI?
42:39 Gut feelings about AI progress
47:29 Connor's predictions about AGI
52:44 Is predicting AGI soon betting against the market?
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Sean Ekins on Regulating AI Drug Discovery
12 januari 2023 · 37 min
On this special episode of the podcast, Emilia Javorsky interviews Sean Ekins about regulating AI drug discovery. Lees meer
Timestramps:
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Ethical guidelines and regulation of AI drug discovery
06:11 How do we balance innovation and safety in AI drug discovery?
13:12 Keeping dangerous chemical data safe
21:16 Sean’s personal story of voicing concerns about AI drug discovery
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Sean Ekins on the Dangers of AI Drug Discovery
5 januari 2023 · 39 min
On this special episode of the podcast, Emilia Javorsky interviews Sean Ekins about the dangers of AI drug discovery. They talk about how Sean discovered an extremely toxic chemical (VX) by reversing an AI drug discovery algorithm. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:46 Sean’s professional journey
03:45 Can computational models replace animal models?
07:24 The risks of AI drug discovery
12:48 Should scientists disclose dangerous discoveries?
19:40 How should scientists handle dual-use technologies?
22:08 Should we open-source potentially dangerous discoveries?
26:20 How do we control autonomous drug creation?
31:36 Surprising chemical discoveries made by black-box AI systems
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Anders Sandberg on the Value of the Future
29 december 2022 · 50 min
Anders Sandberg joins the podcast to discuss various philosophical questions about the value of the future. Lees meer
Learn more about Anders' work: https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:54 Humanity as an immature teenager
04:24 How should we respond to our values changing over time?
18:53 How quickly should we change our values?
24:58 Are there limits to what future morality could become?
29:45 Could the universe contain infinite value?
36:00 How do we balance weird philosophy with common sense?
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Anders Sandberg on Grand Futures and the Limits of Physics
22 december 2022 · 1 uur 3 min
Anders Sandberg joins the podcast to discuss how big the future could be and what humanity could achieve at the limits of physics. Lees meer
Learn more about Anders' work: https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:58 Does it make sense to write long books now?
06:53 Is it possible to understand all of science now?
10:44 What is exploratory engineering?
15:48 Will humanity develop a completed science?
21:18 How much of possible technology has humanity already invented?
25:22 Which sciences have made the most progress?
29:11 How materially wealthy could humanity become?
39:34 Does a grand futures depend on space travel?
49:16 Trade between proponents of different moral theories
53:13 How does physics limit our ethical options?
55:24 How much could our understanding of physics change?
1:02:30 The next episode -
Anders Sandberg on ChatGPT and the Future of AI
15 december 2022 · 58 min
Anders Sandberg from The Future of Humanity Institute joins the podcast to discuss ChatGPT, large language models, and what he's learned about the risks and benefits of AI. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:40 ChatGPT
06:33 Will AI continue to surprise us?
16:22 How do language models fail?
24:23 Language models trained on their own output
27:29 Can language models write college-level essays?
35:03 Do language models understand anything?
39:59 How will AI models improve in the future?
43:26 AI safety in light of recent AI progress
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Vincent Boulanin on Military Use of Artificial Intelligence
8 december 2022 · 48 min
Vincent Boulanin joins the podcast to explain how modern militaries use AI, including in nuclear weapons systems. Lees meer
Learn more about Vincent's work: https://sipri.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:45 Categorizing risks from AI and nuclear
07:40 AI being used by non-state actors
12:57 Combining AI with nuclear technology
15:13 A human should remain in the loop
25:05 Automation bias
29:58 Information requirements for nuclear launch decisions
35:22 Vincent's general conclusion about military machine learning
37:22 Specific policy measures for decreasing nuclear riskSocial Media Links:
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Vincent Boulanin on the Dangers of AI in Nuclear Weapons Systems
1 december 2022 · 45 min
Vincent Boulanin joins the podcast to explain the dangers of incorporating artificial intelligence in nuclear weapons systems. Lees meer
Learn more about Vincent's work: https://sipri.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:55 What is strategic stability?
02:45 How can AI be a positive factor in nuclear risk?
10:17 Remote sensing of nuclear submarines
19:50 Using AI in nuclear command and control
24:21 How does AI change the game theory of nuclear war?
30:49 How could AI cause an accidental nuclear escalation?
36:57 How could AI cause an inadvertent nuclear escalation?
43:08 What is the most important problem in AI nuclear risk?
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Robin Hanson on Predicting the Future of Artificial Intelligence
24 november 2022 · 52 min
Robin Hanson joins the podcast to discuss AI forecasting methods and metrics. Lees meer
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:49 Robin's experience working with AI
06:04 Robin's views on AI development
10:41 Should we care about metrics for AI progress?
16:56 Is it useful to track AI progress?
22:02 When should we begin worrying about AI safety?
29:16 The history of AI development
39:52 AI progress that deviates from current trends
43:34 Is this AI boom different than past booms?
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Robin Hanson on Grabby Aliens and When Humanity Will Meet Them
17 november 2022 · 1 uur
Robin Hanson joins the podcast to explain his theory of grabby aliens and its implications for the future of humanity. Lees meer
Learn more about the theory here: https://grabbyaliens.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:49 Why should we care about aliens?
05:58 Loud alien civilizations and quiet alien civilizations
08:16 Why would some alien civilizations be quiet?
14:50 The moving parts of the grabby aliens model
23:57 Why is humanity early in the universe?
28:46 Could't we just be alone in the universe?
33:15 When will humanity expand into space?
46:05 Will humanity be more advanced than the aliens we meet?
49:32 What if we discovered aliens tomorrow?
53:44 Should the way we think about aliens change our actions?
57:48 Can we reasonably theorize about aliens?
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Ajeya Cotra on Thinking Clearly in a Rapidly Changing World
10 november 2022 · 45 min
Ajeya Cotra joins us to talk about thinking clearly in a rapidly changing world. Lees meer
Learn more about the work of Ajeya and her colleagues: https://www.openphilanthropy.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:44 The default versus the accelerating picture of the future
04:25 The role of AI in accelerating change
06:48 Extrapolating economic growth
08:53 How do we know whether the pace of change is accelerating?
15:07 How can we cope with a rapidly changing world?
18:50 How could the future be utopian?
22:03 Is accelerating technological progress immoral?
25:43 Should we imagine concrete future scenarios?
31:15 How should we act in an accelerating world?
34:41 How Ajeya could be wrong about the future
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Ajeya Cotra on how Artificial Intelligence Could Cause Catastrophe
3 november 2022 · 54 min
Ajeya Cotra joins us to discuss how artificial intelligence could cause catastrophe. Lees meer
Follow the work of Ajeya and her colleagues: https://www.openphilanthropy.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:53 AI safety research in general
02:04 Realistic scenarios for AI catastrophes
06:51 A dangerous AI model developed in the near future
09:10 Assumptions behind dangerous AI development
14:45 Can AIs learn long-term planning?
18:09 Can AIs understand human psychology?
22:32 Training an AI model with naive safety features
24:06 Can AIs be deceptive?
31:07 What happens after deploying an unsafe AI system?
44:03 What can we do to prevent an AI catastrophe?
53:58 The next episode -
Ajeya Cotra on Forecasting Transformative Artificial Intelligence
27 oktober 2022 · 48 min
Ajeya Cotra joins us to discuss forecasting transformative artificial intelligence. Lees meer
Follow the work of Ajeya and her colleagues: https://www.openphilanthropy.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:53 Ajeya's report on AI
01:16 What is transformative AI?
02:09 Forecasting transformative AI
02:53 Historical growth rates
05:10 Simpler forecasting methods
09:01 Biological anchors
16:31 Different paths to transformative AI
17:55 Which year will we get transformative AI?
25:54 Expert opinion on transformative AI
30:08 Are today's machine learning techniques enough?
33:06 Will AI be limited by the physical world and regulation?
38:15 Will AI be limited by training data?
41:48 Are there human abilities that AIs cannot learn?
47:22 The next episode -
Alan Robock on Nuclear Winter, Famine, and Geoengineering
20 oktober 2022 · 41 min
Alan Robock joins us to discuss nuclear winter, famine and geoengineering. Lees meer
Learn more about Alan's work: http://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock/
Follow Alan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AlanRobock
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:45 What is nuclear winter?
06:27 A nuclear war between India and Pakistan
09:16 Targets in a nuclear war
11:08 Why does the world have so many nuclear weapons?
19:28 Societal collapse in a nuclear winter
22:45 Should we prepare for a nuclear winter?
28:13 Skepticism about nuclear winter
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Brian Toon on Nuclear Winter, Asteroids, Volcanoes, and the Future of Humanity
13 oktober 2022 · 49 min
Brian Toon joins us to discuss the risk of nuclear winter. Lees meer
Learn more about Brian's work: https://lasp.colorado.edu/home/people/brian-toon/
Read Brian's publications: https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/person/Brian_Toon
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Asteroid impacts
04:20 The discovery of nuclear winter
13:56 Comparing volcanoes and asteroids to nuclear weapons
19:42 How did life survive the asteroid impact 65 million years ago?
25:05 How humanity could go extinct
29:46 Nuclear weapons as a great filter
34:32 Nuclear winter and food production
40:58 The psychology of nuclear threat
43:56 Geoengineering to prevent nuclear winter
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Philip Reiner on Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications
6 oktober 2022 · 47 min
Philip Reiner joins us to talk about nuclear, command, control and communications systems. Lees meer
Learn more about Philip’s work: https://securityandtechnology.org/
Timestamps:
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:00:50] Nuclear command, control, and communications
[00:03:52] Old technology in nuclear systems
[00:12:18] Incentives for nuclear states
[00:15:04] Selectively enhancing security
[00:17:34] Unilateral de-escalation
[00:18:04] Nuclear communications
[00:24:08] The CATALINK System
[00:31:25] AI in nuclear command, control, and communications
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Daniela and Dario Amodei on Anthropic
5 maart 2022 · 2 uur 1 min
Daniela and Dario Amodei join us to discuss Anthropic: a new AI safety and research company that's working to build reliable, interpretable, and steerable AI systems. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
-Anthropic's mission and research strategy
-Recent research and papers by Anthropic
-Anthropic's structure as a "public benefit corporation"
-Career opportunitiesYou can find the page for the podcast here: https://futureoflife.org/2022/03/04/daniela-and-dario-amodei-on-anthropic/
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAA6PZkek4A
Careers at Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/#careers
Anthropic's Transformer Circuits research: https://transformer-circuits.pub/
Follow Anthropic on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AnthropicAI
microCOVID Project: https://www.microcovid.org/
Follow Lucas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/lucasfmperry
Have any feedback about the podcast? You can share your thoughts here:
www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCTTimestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:44 What was the intention behind forming Anthropic?
6:28 Do the founders of Anthropic share a similar view on AI?
7:55 What is Anthropic's focused research bet?
11:10 Does AI existential safety fit into Anthropic's work and thinking?
14:14 Examples of AI models today that have properties relevant to future AI existential safety
16:12 Why work on large scale models?
20:02 What does it mean for a model to lie?
22:44 Safety concerns around the open-endedness of large models
29:01 How does safety work fit into race dynamics to more and more powerful AI?
36:16 Anthropic's mission and how it fits into AI alignment
38:40 Why explore large models for AI safety and scaling to more intelligent systems?
43:24 Is Anthropic's research strategy a form of prosaic alignment?
46:22 Anthropic's recent research and papers
49:52 How difficult is it to interpret current AI models?
52:40 Anthropic's research on alignment and societal impact
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Anthony Aguirre and Anna Yelizarova on FLI's Worldbuilding Contest
9 februari 2022 · 33 min
Anthony Aguirre and Anna Yelizarova join us to discuss FLI's new Worldbuilding Contest. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
-Motivations behind the contest
-The importance of worldbuilding
-The rules of the contest
-What a submission consists of
-Due date and prizesLearn more about the contest here: https://worldbuild.ai/
Join the discord: https://discord.com/invite/njZyTJpwMz
You can find the page for the podcast here: https://futureoflife.org/2022/02/08/anthony-aguirre-and-anna-yelizarova-on-flis-worldbuilding-contest/
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZBXSiyienI
Follow Lucas on Twitter here: twitter.com/lucasfmperry
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www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCTTimestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:30 What is "worldbuilding" and FLI's Worldbuilding Contest?
6:32 Why do worldbuilding for 2045?
7:22 Why is it important to practice worldbuilding?
13:50 What are the rules of the contest?
19:53 What does a submission consist of?
22:16 Due dates and prizes?
25:58 Final thoughts and how the contest contributes to creating beneficial futuresThis podcast is possible because of the support of listeners like you. If you found this conversation to be meaningful or valuable, consider supporting it directly by donating at futureoflife.org/donate. Contributions like yours make these conversations possible.
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David Chalmers on Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy
26 januari 2022 · 1 uur 43 min
David Chalmers, Professor of Philosophy and Neural Science at NYU, joins us to discuss his newest book Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
-Virtual reality as genuine reality
-Why VR is compatible with the good life
-Why we can never know whether we're in a simulation
-Consciousness in virtual realities
-The ethics of simulated beingsYou can find the page for the podcast here: https://futureoflife.org/2022/01/26/david-chalmers-on-reality-virtual-worlds-and-the-problems-of-philosophy/
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePEg_h90KI
Check out David's book and website here: http://consc.net/
Follow Lucas on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/lucasfmperry
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www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCTTimestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:43 How this books fits into David's philosophical journey
9:40 David's favorite part(s) of the book
12:04 What is the thesis of the book?
14:00 The core areas of philosophy and how they fit into Reality+
16:48 Techno-philosophy
19:38 What is "virtual reality?"
21:06 Why is virtual reality "genuine reality?"
25:27 What is the dust theory and what's it have to do with the simulation hypothesis?
29:59 How does the dust theory fit in with arguing for virtual reality as genuine reality?
34:45 Exploring criteria for what it means for something to be real
42:38 What is the common sense view of what is real?
46:19 Is your book intended to address common sense intuitions about virtual reality?
48:51 Nozick's experience machine and how questions of value fit in
54:20 Technological implementations of virtual reality
58:40 How does consciousness fit into all of this?
1:00:18 Substrate independence and if classical computers can be conscious
1:02:35 How do problems of identity fit into virtual reality?
1:04:54 How would David upload himself?
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Rohin Shah on the State of AGI Safety Research in 2021
2 november 2021 · 1 uur 44 min
Rohin Shah, Research Scientist on DeepMind's technical AGI safety team, joins us to discuss: AI value alignment; how an AI Researcher might decide whether to work on AI Safety; and why we don't know that AI systems won't lead to existential risk. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
- Inner Alignment versus Outer Alignment
- Foundation Models
- Structural AI Risks
- Unipolar versus Multipolar Scenarios
- The Most Important Thing That Impacts the Future of LifeYou can find the page for the podcast here:
https://futureoflife.org/2021/11/01/rohin-shah-on-the-state-of-agi-safety-research-in-2021Watch the video version of this episode here:
https://youtu.be/_5xkh-Rh6EcFollow the Alignment Newsletter here: https://rohinshah.com/alignment-newsletter/
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https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCTTimestamps:
0:00 Intro
00:02:22 What is AI alignment?
00:06:00 How has your perspective of this problem changed over the past year?
00:06:28 Inner Alignment
00:13:00 Ways that AI could actually lead to human extinction
00:18:53 Inner Alignment and MACE optimizers
00:20:15 Outer Alignment
00:23:12 The core problem of AI alignment
00:24:54 Learning Systems versus Planning Systems
00:28:10 AI and Existential Risk
00:32:05 The probability of AI existential risk
00:51:31 Core problems in AI alignment
00:54:46 How has AI alignment, as a field of research changed in the last year?
00:54:02 Large scale language models
00:54:50 Foundation Models
00:59:58 Why don't we know that AI systems won't totally kill us all?
01:09:05 How much of the alignment and safety problems in AI will be solved by industry?
01:14:44 Do you think about what beneficial futures look like?
01:19:31 Moral Anti-Realism and AI
01:27:25 Unipolar versus Multipolar Scenarios
01:35:33 What is the safety team at DeepMind up to?
01:35:41 What is the most important thing that impacts the future of life?This podcast is possible because of the sup…
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Future of Life Institute's $25M Grants Program for Existential Risk Reduction
19 oktober 2021 · 25 min
Future of Life Institute President Max Tegmark and our grants team, Andrea Berman and Daniel Filan, join us to announce a $25M multi-year AI Existential Safety Grants Program. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
- The reason Future of Life Institute is offering AI Existential Safety Grants
- Max speaks about how receiving a grant changed his career early on
- Daniel and Andrea provide details on the fellowships and future grant prioritiesCheck out our grants programs here: https://grants.futureoflife.org/
Join our AI Existential Safety Community:
https://futureoflife.org/team/ai-exis...Have any feedback about the podcast? You can share your thoughts here:
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Filippa Lentzos on Global Catastrophic Biological Risks
1 oktober 2021 · 58 min
Dr. Filippa Lentzos, Senior Lecturer in Science and International Security at King's College London, joins us to discuss the most pressing issues in biosecurity, big data in biology and life sciences, and governance in biological risk. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
- The most pressing issue in biosecurity
- Stories from when biosafety labs failed to contain dangerous pathogens
- The lethality of pathogens being worked on at biolaboratories
- Lessons from COVID-19You can find the page for the podcast here:
https://futureoflife.org/2021/10/01/filippa-lentzos-on-emerging-threats-in-biosecurity/Watch the video version of this episode here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6M34oQ4v4wHave any feedback about the podcast? You can share your thoughts here:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCTTimestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:35 What are the least understood aspects of biological risk?
8:32 Which groups are interested biotechnologies that could be used for harm?
16:30 Why countries may pursue the development of dangerous pathogens
18:45 Dr. Lentzos' strands of research
25:41 Stories from when biosafety labs failed to contain dangerous pathogens
28:34 The most pressing issue in biosecurity
31:06 What is gain of function research? What are the risks?
34:57 Examples of gain of function research
36:14 What are the benefits of gain of function research?
37:54 The lethality of pathogens being worked on at biolaboratorie
40:25 Benefits and risks of big data in biology and the life sciences
45:03 Creating a bioweather map or using big data for biodefense
48:35 Lessons from COVID-19
53:46 How does governance fit in to biological risk?
55:59 Key takeaways from Dr. LentzosThis podcast is possible because of the support of listeners like you. If you found this conversation to be meaningful or valuable, consider supporting it directly by donating at futureoflife.org/donate. Contributions like yours make these conversations possible.
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Susan Solomon and Stephen Andersen on Saving the Ozone Layer
16 september 2021 · 1 uur 45 min
Susan Solomon, internationally recognized atmospheric chemist, and Stephen Andersen, leader of the Montreal Protocol, join us to tell the story of the ozone hole and their roles in helping to bring us back from the brink of disaster. Lees meer
Topics discussed in this episode include:
-The industrial and commercial uses of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)
-How we discovered the atmospheric effects of CFCs
-The Montreal Protocol and its significance
-Dr. Solomon's, Dr. Farman's, and Dr. Andersen's crucial roles in helping to solve the ozone hole crisis
-Lessons we can take away for climate change and other global catastrophic risksYou can find the page for this podcast here: https://futureoflife.org/2021/09/16/susan-solomon-and-stephen-andersen-on-saving-the-ozone-layer/
Check out the video version of the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwh-uDo-6A&ab_channel=FutureofLifeInstitute
Check out the story of the ozone hole crisis here: https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/ozone_depletion_01
Have any feedback about the podcast? You can share your thoughts here: www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRBFZCT
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
3:13 What are CFCs and what was their role in society?
7:09 James Lovelock discovering an abundance of CFCs in the lower atmosphere
12:43 F. Sherwood Rowland's and Mario Molina's research on the atmospheric science of CFCs
19:52 How a single chlorine atom from a CFC molecule can destroy a large amount of ozone
23:12 Moving from models of ozone depletion to empirical evidence of the ozone depleting mechanism
24:41 Joseph Farman and discovering the ozone hole
30:36 Susan Solomon's discovery of the surfaces of high altitude Arctic clouds being crucial for ozone depletion
47:22 The Montreal Protocol
1:00:00 Who were the key stake holders in the Montreal Protocol?
1:03:46 Stephen Andersen's efforts to phase out CFCs as the co-chair of the Montreal Protocol Technology and Economic Assessment Panel
1:13:28 The Montreal Protocol helping to prevent 11 billion…