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In Season 5 of Interpreting India, we continue our exploration of the dynamic forces that will shape India's global standing. At Carnegie India, our diverse lineup of experts will host critical discussions at the intersection of technology, the economy, and international security. Join us as we navigate the complexities of geopolitical shifts and rapid technological advancements. This season promises insightful conversations and fresh perspectives on the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead.
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Nuclear Weapons in Space
29 oktober 2026 · 51 min
This episode is part of our curtain raiser series ahead of the tenth edition of the Global Technology Summit, Carnegie India’s flagship annual event, co-hosted with the Ministry of External Affairs, Government of India, to be held in New Delhi from December 2 to 4, 2026. Lees meer
Vipin begins with the shift he saw while serving at the Pentagon: military competition in space was probably inevitable with the rise of China, and the U.S. and its allies are far more dependent on space than Russia is. That asymmetry, he says, is the only way a nuclear weapon in orbit makes sense, as a brute force anti-satellite weapon. A detonation would affect unhardened satellites in low Earth orbit, with radiation pumped through the Van Allen belt degrading more electronics on every pass, and reconstituting the orbit could take years. He also explains why attribution is difficult. Identifying/differentiating a nuclear weapon from a radioisotope thermoelectric generator on a satellite constitutes a technical problem, and a satellite approaching to inspect during the subject satellite during conflict could prompt escalation.
On whether the Outer Space Treaty is enough, Vipin calls himself a reluctant realist. He argues that norms have not stopped Russia before, and that pressure from countries Moscow depends on, notably China and India, is likelier to matter. He says space needs its own escalation ladder because the nuclear domain is not a good analog and sees room for think tanks and academics to build it, along with classification reforms within the national military so more people can work on these questions. On opportunities for collaboration on Defense space between India and the U.S, he points to the Advanced Domains Defense Dialogue between both countries, the opportunities that India’s launch startups, and how the lessons of Operation Sindoor can offer India incentives to work with the U.S. He notes that India is still working out what its Defense Space Agency looks like and as it expa…
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India, China, and the U.S. in the Age of the Technology Race
15 oktober 2026 · 35 min
This episode is part of our curtain raiser series ahead of the tenth edition of the Global Technology Summit, Carnegie India’s flagship annual event, co-hosted with the Ministry of External Affairs, Government of India, to be held in New Delhi from December 2 to 4, 2026. Lees meer
Since 1990, the West’s share of the global economy has fallen from roughly 60 percent to just under 40 percent. While China has driven much of that shift, Cable argues that India will dominate the next generation of this transition. He presents three scenarios for what comes next: a reinvented global West that incorporates rising powers like India, a multipolar order of competing spheres of influence, and a reinvented multilateralism that reflects the new structure of global power. The scenario he finds most alarming is the one of multipolarity, where no single actor is responsible for the global commons and coordination on climate, trade, and crisis management becomes exponentially harder.
On technology and trusted partnerships, Cable points to a study suggesting China is ahead in the majority of upstream technology areas tracked, with the U.S. and China the only two countries with anything like technological dominance at the frontier. The challenge for countries like India is not just who to work with, but how to balance competition and cooperation, particularly in areas like medicine and renewable energy where collaboration makes more strategic sense than rivalry. On India’s growth outlook, Cable is notably optimistic, pointing to infrastructure investment, a strong digital backbone, a unified domestic market, and a large-educated workforce as the foundations of a fundamentally different trajectory from China, whose structural problems are now very real constraints.
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Eclipsing the West: China, India and the Forging of a New World by Vince Cable
Every two weeks, Interpreting India brings you diverse voices from India and around the world to explore the critical questions shaping the …
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Subsea Cables, AI Infrastructure, and Africa's Connectivity Gap
27 augustus 2026 · 45 min
Jane opens with a framing that runs through the entire conversation: for Africa, the subsea cable story is not primarily about geopolitics. It is about connecting citizens and translating that connectivity into economic participation. Less than 40% of Africans use the internet, and while infrastructure investments are significant, the benefits tend to concentrate in urban hubs like Nairobi, Lagos, and Cape Town, while rural populations, women, and landlocked countries remain underserved. The 2024 cable cut that affected ten African countries brought into sharp focus just how fragile the system is. Africa has only one dedicated cable repair vessel for the entire continent, and mobilizing it costs millions of dollars and takes days. Jane walks through what is now being put in place: clearer government notification protocols, mandated interconnection between telecom operators, and cross-border coordination frameworks, with West Africa emerging as a model that the rest of the continent has not yet replicated. Lees meer
On Chinese infrastructure, Jane is pragmatic. The framing of east versus west is, in her view, the wrong one for African policymakers who are already deeply invested in Chinese telecom towers, terrestrial fiber, and mobile devices across the continent. The more useful question is how to secure what already exists, ensuring cybersecurity safeguards are in place regardless of where the infrastructure comes from. On the ITU advisory body, whose final report was published in Geneva in July, the recommendations cover coordination, standards, and geographic diversity, but the document is non-binding. The real work, she says, now rests with national governments and regulators to take those recommendations forward.
Episode Contributors
Charukeshi Bhatt is a research analyst at Carnegie India, where her work focuses on the intersection of emerging technologies and international security. Her current research explores how advancements in technologies such as AI are shapi…
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India, Australia, and the Critical Minerals Opportunity
13 augustus 2026 · 50 min
The conversation opens with a useful baseline on both countries. Australia has world-class mining equipment, technology, and services capabilities, and its mining sector contributes roughly 10 to 15 percent of GDP, yet it remains predominantly a raw material exporter with limited domestic demand. India has a large and growing demand for minerals to fuel its manufacturing ambitions, a vast talent pool, and competitive labour and energy costs, but has historically underinvested in systematic exploration, reserve creation, and processing relative to its long-term needs. The complementarity is clear, but Professor Yellishetty is equally clear about what is missing: while government-to-government and university-to-university engagement is working well through mechanisms such as the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, the Ministry of Mines MoU, and KABIL's engagement with Australia's Critical Minerals Facilitation Office, the business-to-business piece Lees meer
On the Australia-India Critical Minerals Research Hub (AICMRH), the conversation traces its origins to a community of practice that came together during the COVID-19 lockdown, eventually growing to around 150 researchers. The Hub has since hosted national symposiums, submitted recommendations to ministries on both sides, and facilitated student exchanges, with institutional partnerships including Monash University's collaborations with IIT Bombay and IIT Hyderabad. Professor Yellishetty notes that the Hub's policy recommendations fed into discussions around India's first critical minerals list and the announcement of Centres of Excellence (CoE) under the National Critical Minerals Mission, launched in 2025. The next step, he argues, is institutionalising this through a Joint Centre of Excellence that can anchor commercial outcomes alongside research, including moving promising technologies such as environmentally benign processing methods like deep eutectic solvents from laboratory to pilot scale and eventually to commer…
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Chokepoints, Economic Warfare and India's Strategic Options
10 juli 2026 · 34 min
Edward lays out three criteria for what makes something a genuine choke point: dominant market share, difficulty to substitute, and the ability to weaponize it with asymmetric impact, hurting the adversary far more than yourself. All three are needed. Lees meer
The U.S. dollar is involved in 90% of foreign exchange transactions. China refines 90% of the global supply of rare earths. Nvidia designs 85% of advanced AI chips. These are all choke points. Canada's dependence on the U.S. market, on the other hand, is not, because imposing embargo-level tariffs on Canada would be just as damaging to the U.S. as to Canada. The distinction, he notes, is not between weaponizing interdependence but weaponizing dependence.
On the question of incremental versus decisive action when it comes to what nations can do in response to chokepoints, Edward's view is clear: when you ratchet up sanctions or export controls gradually, the adversary adapts the whole time. The pressure goes up a little, they find workarounds; the impact goes down, and you end up with a zigzagging pattern that is not particularly effective. On semiconductors, he pushes back on the argument that restricting chip exports to China simply incentivizes them to build their own, pointing out that Huawei's chip subsidiary currently holds around 1% of the advanced AI chip market. If the AI race could be decided in the next few years, giving China access to Nvidia chips in the interim would, in his view, be giving ammunition to an adversary in the middle of the most important technology race of our lifetimes.
On India, Edward's view is that India has more optionality than almost any other country outside the U.S. and China. He sees deeper economic integration with like-minded partners as the most promising path forward, and thinks India is well positioned to benefit from the current transition in the global economic order. He is also candid that both the U.S. and China use economic coercion, and that it is reasonable for coun…
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India's AI Ambitions and the Road to Viksit Bharat | AI Summit Special
2 juli 2026 · 33 min
This is the final episode of our special series on the India AI Impact Summit, examining the conversations, decisions, and debates that are shaping global AI governance. Lees meer
This episode explores:
India has a clear North Star in Viksit Bharat 2047, but what will it actually take to get there and what role does AI play?
Should India focus on diffusing AI or building its own frontier research capability, and is that even the right way to frame the question?
What did the working group on AI for Economic Growth and Social Good set out to do, and what is the Global AI Impact Commons designed to deliver?
From skilling to last mile delivery, what stands between a great AI solution built in Bangalore and the farmer or district hospital that could benefit from it?
Debjani pushes back early on one of the most debated questions in India's AI conversation. The framing of frontier research versus diffusion, she says, is simply the wrong debate. India needs to do both. Without the machinery to convert its own data into intelligence, India would be diffusing imported intelligence, with no guarantee that the channel will always remain open. Building that machinery, while simultaneously deploying AI at scale, is not a choice. It is a necessity.
On the working group, the most important conversation was not about technology at all. It was about the human being. Every country in the room was still trying to figure out how to unlock AI's impact at population scale, and the group's key insight was that the world does not yet have a common standard for what impact even means. The Global AI Impact Commons, launched at the summit with over 80 stories from more than 30 countries, is designed to change that, giving countries a shared repository of real world success stories to learn from and replicate.
Her advice for getting AI to the last mile draws directly from India's DPI experience. None of the platforms that reached population scale, not Aadhaar, not UPI, started with the technolog…
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Did India's AI Summit Get Safety Right? AI Summit Special
19 juni 2026 · 40 min
This episode is part of our special series on the India AI Impact Summit, examining the conversations, decisions, and debates that are shaping global AI governance. Lees meer
Professor Ravindran addresses early on the perception that the India summit sidelined safety. More than 60% of the summit's events and discussions were focused on safety, trust, and cross-border collaboration. The framing shifted, and deliberately so. When the summit came to the Global South, leading with existential risk, rather than the very real opportunity AI presents to improve healthcare, education, and public services for hundreds of millions of people, would have been the wrong entry point. The two key deliverables from his working group reflect that balance: the Trusted AI Commons, a repository of benchmarks, testing protocols, and best practices designed for AI deployment in resource-constrained settings, and a high-level governance guidance note endorsed by 22 countries, that calls out the issues every national AI policy should address without being prescriptive enough to limit how different countries approach it.
On frontier risks, Professor Ravindran notes that the landscape has shifted in ways that would have seemed speculative even a year ago, and that the frameworks being built to manage these risks will need to keep pace with that change. He also reflects on what the growing concentration of the most capable AI models means for countries like India, and why that conversation may need to move from being a company-to-country dialogue to a country-to-country one. His overall view is one of cautious optimism: there will be disruption in the short term, but there will also be a new equilibrium, and the work is to make sure the transition is managed well.
Episode Contributors
Professor Balaraman Ravindran heads the Department of Data Science and AI at IIT Madras. He is also the Founding Head of the Wadhwani School of Data Science and AI (WSAI), Robert Bosch Centre for Data Science and AI …
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Subsea Cables, Trusted Networks, and India's Strategic Opportunity
4 juni 2026 · 46 min
Pooja opens with a mismatch that frames the entire conversation. India consumes around 20% of global internet traffic but accounts for just 2% of global subsea cable infrastructure. Even with the expansion of landing stations currently underway, the gap between India's digital ambitions and its physical cable footprint is significant. Part of this is historical: cable infrastructure was concentrated in Mumbai and Chennai, and building it out is prohibitively expensive. Part of it is structural: the raw materials, the technology, and crucially the cable-laying ships that make all of it possible are controlled by a very small number of countries. Lees meer
On the question of China's expanding footprint, Pooja draws out a tension that runs through the whole conversation: private cable companies are driven by cost and scale, and will naturally gravitate towards cheaper components and partners regardless of where they come from. Sovereign concerns around espionage, trusted supply chains, and national security are a different conversation entirely, and the two do not always find a common language easily. This is where the idea of trusted networks becomes important, frameworks built around like-minded partners who share a common understanding of hardware standards, legal norms, and jurisdictional protections. Australia's approach of using its Exclusive Economic Zone provisions to protect cable infrastructure is one model Pooja thinks India should take seriously and preliminary discussions suggest it already is.
On Quad, Pooja notes that the cable connectivity and resilience partnership launched at the Leaders’ Summit was significant, and there is work happening beneath the surface even if it is not attracting media attention. She concludes by suggesting that more clarity from the government on where India stands on subsea cables, which bodies are responsible, and the national approach will help the broader conversation, especially aiding relevant stakeholders reach out to the rig…
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AI Literacy and the Future of Work in India
26 mei 2026 · 45 min
Jaspreet's framing for the AI and work debate is worth staying with. He is not dismissive of disruption: he thinks AI will destroy certain jobs, create new ones, and the rupture will be real. But he pushes back on the idea that job destruction is the right frame. The more useful question, he argues, is what happens to workers, and the answer to that depends almost entirely on whether people develop the skills to move into the roles that AI creates rather than the ones it displaces. His reference point is the IT sector itself, an industry born out of the last great technology disruption, when fears about computers eliminating clerical work gave way to an entirely new economy of higher-paying, more fulfilling jobs. The same logic, he believes, applies now. Lees meer
The bulk of the conversation settles on AI literacy, a concept Jaspreet distinguishes sharply from training. Training teaches you how to use a specific tool. Literacy gives you the grammar to work with any tool, across any context. He lays out a five-step framework from his book, reads, writes, ads, thinks, does, designed as a practical ladder for building that literacy, and is candid that even three years after ChatGPT, most organizations have brought the horse to the water without making it drink. On the policy side, he is supportive of initiatives like AI in school curricula and IIT fellowships, but his bigger ask is that India treat AI the way it treated digital public infrastructure: as a genuine national mission, not a sectoral initiative. On deepfakes and copyright, his view is pragmatic: deepfakes are a known evil that needs specific, exemplary regulation rather than an omnibus AI law, and copyright will likely resolve through a combination of revenue sharing agreements and citation norms, neither side fully satisfied but better than where things stand today.
Episode Contributors
Jaspreet Bindra is the founder of AI&Beyond and The Tech Whisperer, and author of 'Winning with AI: Your Guide to AI Literacy.'… -
Can AI Resources Be Democratized? AI Summit Special
15 mei 2026 · 28 min
This episode is part of our special series on the India AI Impact Summit, examining the conversations, decisions, and debates that are shaping global AI governance. Lees meer
The working group was designed from the start to be bottom-up rather than top-down. Rather than starting from the positions of countries already leading in AI, the agenda was shaped through consultations, bilateral discussions, and deliberate outreach beyond official channels. The concerns that emerged were consistent: uneven concentration of compute, limited access to quality data, dependence on external platforms, and the risk that much of the global south would not be able to fully participate in or benefit from AI-driven development.
The two key outcomes are the Democratic Diffusion of AI Resources charter, a collective commitment to inclusive and equitable AI development adopted in the summit's final declaration, and MAITRI, a collaborative platform designed to connect governments, researchers, and institutions to the essential building blocks of AI without each country having to start from scratch. Saurabh Garg draws a direct line between these initiatives and India's own experience with layered digital public infrastructure, pointing to the principles behind Aadhaar, UPI, and the India AI Mission as exactly what informed the working group's approach. The real work, he makes clear, begins now.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Overview of the AI Impact Summit
01:24 Guest Introduction: Dr. Saurabh Garg
02:12 Goals of the Working Group
03:40 Ensuring Inclusivity in AI Development
06:04 Common Concerns from Participating Countries
07:49 Consensus Building Process
10:06 Key Outcomes of the Working Group
13:28 Understanding the Collaborative Platform METLI
16:12 India's Domestic AI Mission
19:29 Navigating Data Governance and Sovereignty
20:49 Funding and Sustainability for AI Initiatives
23:25 Immediate Next Steps Post-Summit
25:22 India’s Role in Future AI Development
26:49 Switzer…
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