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Are Russia and the US Spending Your Carbon Budget? | Lennard De Klerk
27 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 13 min
Lennard de Klerk is the lead author of the Initiative on Greenhouse Gas Accounting of War and has worked on climate change for more than 25 years. Today, his focus is the emissions from war and the military, including the work of calculating the climate cost of the war in Ukraine.
In this conversation, I wanted to ask Lennard whether NATO’s push towards 3.5% of GDP on defence can ever sit alongside net zero, and why most military emissions come from peacetime operations rather than active conflict. Lennard breaks down where the roughly 311 million tonnes of CO2 from four years of war in Ukraine came from, including warfare itself, landscape fires, reconstruction and rerouted flights, explains how fossil fuel dependence is also a security weakness, and shares what a post-war rebuild with hemp, recycled steel and low-carbon cement could look like. We also chat about the effort to have Russia held accountable for climate damage through the Council of Europe’s compensation process, what the social cost of carbon really measures, and why Lennard stopped flying within Europe.
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Find Lennard’s work: https://www.linkedin.com/company/warbon/?originalSubdomain=ua
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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0:00 Does increasing defence spending shatter climate targets?
4:40 The 2 competing worlds of defence and climate
8:14 Why calculate the Ukraine war carbon emissions?
12:35 Military emissions are 5.5% of the global total
15:55 The war in Ukraine as another Finland
17:15 What militaries say when you bring up their emissions
20:53 Cutting fossil fuels is a defence strategy
27:32 Biofuels, hydrogen and the alternative fuel problem
29:36 Militaries have gone quiet on their climate targets
30:16 Where the emissions from the war in Ukraine come from
34:24 Wildfires fuelled by war and climate change
37:00 Rebuilding Ukraine with cement and steel
39:32 The flight de… Lees meer -
The REAL Reason Climate Deniers Are Voting Reform | Bob Ward
13 oktober 2026 · 1 uur 25 min
Bob Ward is Policy and Communications Director at the LSE’s Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment who started out as a science reporter at the Daily Telegraph, and one of the few people willing to take on climate sceptics in public, from debating Nigel Farage on GB News to addressing oil and gas executives at International Petroleum Week. Lees meer
In this conversation, Bob explains why he thinks climate has become a culture war that leaves everyone stuck, why many sceptical arguments about the science are really proxies for fears about government regulation or daily life, and why he separates bad faith actors from people who have simply been misled. We get into the Frank Luntz memo, the shift from denial to delay and the rise of the “lukewarmers”, how climate got caught up in the culture war, and why Bob believes dropping the phrase “net zero” would be a mistake. We also cover the “less than 1% of emissions” argument, why the message of sacrifice doesn’t sell, what a warming climate could cost the UK economy, and why the insurance industry is so alarmed.
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Bob’s LSE Grantham Climate Institute (inc. all research, media and policy) https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/profile/bob-ward/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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Chapters
0:00 Who is winning the climate culture war?
3:11 Why are culture wars bad?
6:09 Who is the villain?
12:14 Does debating sceptics actually change minds?
14:35 The memo that changed science denial forever
16:31 Should you share a stage with bad faith arguments?
20:06 Being right doesn’t win arguments
25:20 From “it’s not happening” to “just grow wine”
33:41 How the UK caught the US culture war
40:36 Should we stop using the phrase ‘Net Zero’?
44:29 “The UK is less than 1% of emissions”
49:38 Have we really failed to bring the public along?
56:20 Is consuming less the answer?
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Climate Fixes For Doomers
29 september 2026 · 1 uur 19 min
I had the privilege of hosting 3 incredible guests who each deserve an episode of their own. We tackled the topic of optimism, solutions and how the climate story needs to move on to the part where we’re saving the world, not just saying how f*cked we are. Lees meer
Lucy Siegle is a journalist, broadcaster and author who has reported on climate, nature and the fashion industry's footprint for two decades, including as a reporter on BBC One's The One Show.
Angus Hervey is a political economist and the founding editor of Fix The News, the solutions journalism newsletter that goes looking for the progress the headlines usually miss.
Solitaire Townsend is the co-founder and Chief Solutionist of Futerra, the sustainability agency, and the author of The Solutionists, a book on how business can fix the future.
Together, we each brought a climate solution we’re excited about and discussed them.
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Links
Fix The News: https://fixthenews.com/
Futerra: https://www.wearefuterra.com/
Solitaire’s website for books, speaking and more: https://www.solitairetownsend.com/
Lucy’s Substack: https://theweathermakers.substack.com/
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We also cover:
The stat that 50% of under 30s think we're doomed, and what that has done to the youth climate movement
Why the climate movement has been stuck at the "inciting incident" of the story for 30 years
How Just Stop Oil briefly pushed climate coverage level with mentions of ghosts and cake
Why climate scientists are more hopeful than the public, and why recycling is still the solution people name most
Angus on why 2026 has been a low wildfire year globally, and why cameras in Western Europe skew our perception
Why Angus thinks the biggest climate story is China, from its EV boom to its emissions plateauing
How giving indigenous groups land tenure could keep carbon in the ground (only 14% have official tenure, according to Angus)
Why fear doesn't motivate most people, and the pioneers, settlers and prospectors model
Lucy on Suzanne Simar…
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I Asked a Nepal Expert How The Devastating Floods Happened. What He Said Will Shock You
16 september 2026 · 50 min
Manjeet Dhakal is Advisor to the Chair of the UN's Least Developed Countries Group and Director of Climate Analytics' South Asia office. He’s been involved with climate negotiations and diplomacy for almost 20 years and now helps the world's most climate-vulnerable nations negotiate international climate policy. He's currently completing a PhD and recently published research on climate attribution in Nepal. Lees meer
Dr Manal Shehabi, an applied development economist and Senior Research Fellow at Oxford's Institute for New Economic Thinking, who also teaches Economics for Public Policy at the Blavatnik School of Government and sits on Oxford's Children and Climate Initiative.
On August 26th, 2026, a catastrophic flood devastated Nepal's Langtang Valley. A mass of ice and rock detached from a Himalayan peak at approximately 5,200 metres and triggered a flood that has killed more than 1,300 people and left 5,000+ missing. This conversation walks through what actually happened, why the Himalayas are warming faster than almost anywhere else on Earth, why Nepal producing 0.1% of global emissions makes this a sobering example of climate injustice, and much more.
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Manjeet’s July paper Climate-induced loss and damage in Nepal: attribution analysis and institutional readiness for international support: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/climate/articles/10.3389/fclim.2026.1782991/full
Manal Shehabi: https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/people/manal-shehabi
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Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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Chapters
0:00 What Manjeet saw on the ground
5:08 The new kind of disaster we're facing
9:18 Why the Himalayas are called the third pole
10:13 How permafrost collapse triggered the avalanche
12:07 Why 2 billion people depend on Himalayan glaciers, and the immediate human cost
15:32 Nepal's interconnection with China and India
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She quit Microsoft to expose their insane AI cover-up
8 september 2026 · 1 uur 2 min
Holly Alpine spent a decade at Microsoft, co-founding the company's 10,000-strong employee sustainability group and running programs for data center communities. Then she discovered something that made her leave: the company was signing contracts explicitly designed to help fossil fuel companies extract more oil and gas, faster and cheaper, using AI. Now she's leading one of the only campaigns in the world working to expose what she calls the most underestimated climate threat of the AI era. Lees meer
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The peer reviewed journal article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s44168-026-00411-0
Enabled Emissions campaign website: https://www.enabledemissions.com/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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Chapters
0:00 AI’s Climate Impact Isn’t What You Think
2:06 What Holly saw Inside Microsoft
5:13 The Emissions Nobody Is Counting
8:45 Why AI Helps Fossil Fuels Far More Than Renewables
12:16 Winning Sustainability Awards While Helping Exxon Drill More
16:10 What AI Actually Does Inside an Oil Well
19:34 The Undrillable Wells AI Made Viable
24:08 Why Fiduciary Duty Is Corporate Folklore
28:52 The Promises Microsoft Made and Didn't Keep
32:21 How Data Centers Became the Entire Climate Story
36:48 You're Only Looking at One Team's Points
40:33 The Biggest Loophole in Climate Accounting
43:36 The Climate Blind Spot Nobody Noticed for a Decade
47:42 Why Pension Funds Are Starting to Listen
52:00 The Coalition Forming Against AI Expansion
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Top journalist: Climate Change Is a Sexy Corruption Story | Emily Atkin
24 augustus 2026 · 1 uur 32 min
“A newsletter for people pissed off about the climate crisis” is the tagline of Emily Atkin’s newsletter, HEATED. She’s one of the foremost climate journalists in the US and the founder of Heated, an independent newsletter with 150k subscribers dedicated to accountability journalism on the climate crisis. Lees meer
Originally trained in traditional mainstream media outlets like The New Republic, she left to build her own publication in 2019 after growing frustrated with the reluctance to cover climate change as the power and corruption story it really is. She now writes for people who are pissed off about the climate crisis and want to understand the forces blocking action.
This conversation goes deep into why Emily believes climate change should be covered as a corruption story, not an environmental one. We talk about how BP invented the term "carbon footprint" as a marketing campaign to shift attention away from corporate responsibility, why the fossil fuel industry has been allowed to privatise profits while socialising the costs of climate damage onto everyone else, and why that arrangement is profoundly corrupt. Emily explains why she thinks journalism's obsession with objectivity has made outlets wimps and cowards, why anger is her most powerful tool as a journalist, and why she refuses to comfort people with hope when what they really need is information to act.
We also cover why right wing billionaires buying up media outlets is creating an information crisis, why she spent months investigating an anti solar influencer with two million followers, and why she believes media literacy is one of the biggest barriers to climate action. Emily shares what it's like running an independent publication that refuses to paywall climate news, why she thinks individual action matters more than she used to, and why she wishes more people would leak her documents from inside their companies instead of asking her what gives her hope.
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Find Emily's work at Heated: https://heate…
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How food shortages could collapse the UK government | Professor Paul Behrens
11 augustus 2026 · 1 uur 9 min
Professor Paul Behrens of the Oxford martin School at the University of Oxford works at the intersection of food systems, climate change, and food security. Originally trained in physics and astronomy, he spent years working on energy systems before turning his attention to what he now believes is one of the most fragile and underestimated threats we face: the food system that feeds us. Lees meer
Paul is the author of the popular science book, The Best of Times, The Worst of Times: Futures from the Frontiers of Climate Science (Indigo Press, 2021) which describes humanity’s current trajectory and possible futures in paired chapters of pessimism and hope. His research and writing on climate, energy, and food, has appeared in scientific journals and media outlets such as the BBC, The Guardian, Thomson Reuters, Politico, Nature Sustainability, Nature Energy, PNAS, Nature Food, and
We cover
Climate change is already driving a third of food price inflation in the UK, with drought, flooding, geopolitical instability, and energy shocks potentially pushing prices to 1970s levels
The UK holds between three days and three weeks of food storage; Finland has nine months
A Joint Intelligence Committee report on ecosystem collapse was suppressed before being released in abridged form.
Animals lose between 80–97% of the calories fed to them; that inefficiency becomes catastrophic as climate change shrinks the productive biosphere
Shifting to a planetary health diet could reduce emissions by 61%, spare an area the size of Scotland, and save the NHS tens of billions of pounds a year
We massively underestimate each other's willingness to act on climate — 60% of people intending to vote Reform support onshore wind turbines
Over 40% of the UK supports a meat tax, despite politicians treating it as political suicide
Food price spikes historically drive political instability and state collapse; climate change contributed to the Syrian conflict and is already destabilising politics world…
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The temperature that kills people 65+ | Dr Mark Harber
27 juli 2026 · 1 uur 4 min
Dr Mark Harber is a consultant nephrologist (kidney doctor) and the Royal College of Physicians' special adviser on healthcare sustainability and climate change. Lees meer
He's spent years working at the intersection of medicine and the environment as a member of the Sustainable Kidney Care committee, a clinical lead for the NHS London sustainability group, and an advisor to the UCL Partners Climate Collaborative. Now, he helps shape how the RCP advocates and lobbies on healthcare's role in the climate crisis.
This conversation goes deep into the surprisingly stark relationship between heat and human health: why the death rate in London starts climbing at just 24 degrees, why 2026's June heatwave in the UK heatwave produced an estimated 2,900 excess deaths, and why chronic conditions from epilepsy to kidney failure get dramatically worse as the mercury rises. Mark explains why big national statistics can feel strangely meaningless next to a single hospital admission, and why he believes there's little point terrifying the public without giving them something practical to do about it.
We talk about the NHS's own outsized carbon footprint (around 5% of the UK's total, more than the aviation industry) and why it became the first health system in the world to commit to net zero, back in 2019. Mark explains the hidden environmental cost of kidney dialysis, which can use 400 litres of water per session and carries 16 times the carbon footprint of an average NHS patient, and why the UK is on track to be 6 billion litres of water short every day by 2050. We also cover the less obvious ways climate change threatens healthcare itself: 90% of English hospitals at risk of overheating, a tenth to a third at risk of flooding, and disease-carrying mosquitoes now established in France and Italy that never used to survive this far north.
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Learn more about the RCP's Green Physician Toolkit at https://www.rcp.ac.uk/policy-and-campaigns/our-policy-priorities/climate-and-sustainability/gr…
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A psychologist’s guide to avoiding moral superiority - Per Espen Stoknes
7 juli 2026 · 1 uur 25 min
Per Espen Stoknes is a psychologist, economist, and one of the world's leading experts on why climate change feels so hard to act on—and what actually works to break through that paralysis. He's the author of ‘What We Think About When We Try Not to Think About Global Warming’, ‘Tomorrow's Economy: A Guide to Creating Healthy Green Growth’ and ‘Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity’ Lees meer
He’s associate professor and co-director of the BI Center for Sustainability and Energy, and someone who's spent decades unpacking the psychological barriers that keep us stuck: distance, doom, dissonance, denial, and identity.
This conversation goes deep into the mechanics of climate psychology—why telling people what to do almost always backfires, why inequality is one of the biggest accelerants of climate inaction, and why the pendulum swings of history might be our strangest source of hope. We talk about why comedy and messengers like Joe Rogan matter more than scientists think, why AI and privacy loss mirror the climate crisis psychologically, and why Per believes the next frontier isn't just decarbonisation—it's rewilding finance itself.
We cover why attacking someone's identity shuts down climate conversation immediately, how social trust is the variable that determines whether governments can actually implement climate policy, and why the UK cutting 2% of global emissions matters far more than the math suggests. Per explains why the five barriers to climate action—distance, doom, dissonance, denial, and identity—also apply to digital privacy and AI, why inequality creates a vicious cycle that makes climate action nearly impossible, and why universal basic income might be one of the most powerful climate policies we're not talking about.
We also talk about why Per thinks Trump's second term might accidentally be the pendulum swing we need, why possibilism is a better philosophical framework than optimism or pessimism, and why the people with the answers—indigenous commu…
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Does laughing about the end of the world help? Stuart Goldsmith & Professor Lauren Feldman
23 juni 2026 · 1 uur 12 min
Stuart Goldsmith is a stand-up comedian with 20 years of experience who's spent the last five years doing something almost no other comic attempts: making audiences laugh about the climate crisis. Lees meer
Professor Lauren Feldman teaches Media and Climate Change at Rutgers University, where her students regularly bring in clips of Stuart's work to dissect in class. She's the co-author of A Comedian and an Activist Walk into a Bar: The Serious Role of Comedy in Social Justice, and her research unpacks why comedy is one of the most powerful tools we have for breaking through climate denial, fear, and apathy.
This conversation explores why it's so hard to make people laugh about something that genuinely terrifies you, why comedy works when facts and fear don't, and why the brand of climate action is so catastrophically bad that we desperately need comedians to fix it. We talk about the psychology of counter-arguing, why charged information shuts down the prefrontal cortex, and how comedy creates a kind of social lubricant that lets unpalatable truths slip past our defenses.
Stuart explains why he had to convince himself not to cry on stage, why his climate confessions format helps people admit their hypocrisy without shame, and why he's trying to write the perfect joke about how activists are the only professionals not allowed to fly. Lauren shares research showing that comedy increases engagement, makes messages more memorable, and helps people feel less alone in their climate anxiety. We also talk about why partisan comedy backfires with skeptical audiences, why the tabloid press treated Britain's hottest May on record like a beach party, and why Stuart believes the more you learn about climate change, the less paralyzed you feel.
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Find Stuart's work and UK tour dates at stuartgoldsmith.com
Find Lauren's book A Comedian and an Activist Walk into a Bar on Amazon and University of California Press
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.s…
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Why you’ve heard of recycling but not…
8 juni 2026 · 1 uur
Check out the UK's most trusted climate action platform, Ecologi at: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
Vojtech Vosecky is one of the world's leading voices on the circular economy, with nearly a quarter of a million people following his work on LinkedIn. He's an environmental engineer who's spent over a decade working inside the European Parliament, advising governments, training over 350 circular economy professionals, and building a global community of changemakers across 20 cities from Barcelona to Melbourne. His mission is simple: turn as many people as possible into circular economists, because he believes that's where the exponential impact lies in unfucking our climate.
This conversation unpacks why 90% of people think climate change is only about energy when the other half of the coin is resources. We dive into what the circular economy actually is, why nature has always been circular, and why recycling is the worst of all the good options we have. Vojtech explains why 45% of global emissions come from how we make, use, and waste stuff, and why the plastic bottle you drink from in 30 seconds represents months of materials, fossil fuels, and energy that's lost the moment you throw it away.
This is a masterclass in rethinking waste, rethinking consumption, and rethinking what it means to be a changemaker instead of a consumer.
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Find Vojtech on LinkedIn and learn more about his circular economy training program: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vojtechvosecky/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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Chapters
00:00 What is the circular economy?
06:30 Linear vs circular: the plastic bottl… Lees meer -
How Much Europe’s Energy Dependence Costs You | Aurélie Maréchal, Postive Money Europe Director
26 mei 2026 · 1 uur 5 min
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Aurélie Maréchal is the Director of Positive Money Europe, an organisation working to reform the economic system so that it works for people and the planet. She's spent 15 years inside the European policy machine, watching the Green Deal go from a fringe idea to the headline of the European Commission, and then watching it disappear from political discourse entirely in just five years. She now spends her time showing policymakers, central banks, and businesses why the way we handle money, interest rates, and investment is one of the most powerful climate levers we're not using properly.
This conversation unpacks the relationship between climate and economics that almost nobody explains clearly: why fossil fuels drive inflation, why raising interest rates to fight that inflation actually makes renewable energy harder to finance, and why the European Central Bank's standard playbook is accidentally locking us into the very system we're trying to escape.
We talk about fossil inflation and climate inflation, why renewable energy projects are more sensitive to interest rate changes than fossil fuel infrastructure, and why the Green Deal went from mainstream policy to politically toxic in the space of two election cycles. Aurélie also shares what it's like working as an insider in Brussels, why lobbying isn't a dirty word but power imbalances make it dangerous, and why the arguments that work today aren't about saving the planet, they're about sovereignty, security, and competitiveness.
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Find Positive Money at: https://positivemoney.org
Follow Positive Money Europe on LinkedIn, Facebook, Bluesky, and …
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UN Advisor: How Al-Shabaab Is Weaponising Climate Change | Christophe Hodder
12 mei 2026 · 48 min
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Christophe Hodder is the world's first UN-appointed Climate Peace and Security Advisor, working in Somalia, the 5th most climate-vulnerable country on Earth. He's spent six years on the frontlines of where climate breakdown meets armed conflict, helping communities navigate droughts, floods, displacement, and violence in a country that contributes just 0.08% of global emissions but bears some of the heaviest consequences.
This conversation goes deep into what climate insecurity actually looks like on the ground: two goat herders fighting over shrinking grazing land, clans feuding over water access, young men with guns caught in cycles of violence made worse by collapsing ecosystems. Christophe explains why climate change doesn't directly cause conflict, but it intensifies every existing tension, and why restoring land, building trust between communities, and creating economic opportunities are all part of the same solution.
We also talk about what climate finance pays for when it's done right, how Al-Shabab uses resource control as a weapon, and how the instability happening in Somalia can eventually show up on Britain's doorstep through migration, terrorism, and disrupted global trade.
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Find out more about the UN Climate Security Mechanism and follow Chris on LinkedIn
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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Chapters
00:00 What is a Climate Peace and Security Advisor?
04:15 How climate impacts show up as violence on the ground
08:45 Somalia's conflict context and why it m…
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The National Security Topic Britain Is Too Scared to Cover | General Richard Nugee CB CVO CBE
27 april 2026 · 1 uur 46 min
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General Richard Nugee CB CVO CBE spent 35 years in the British military, rising to the executive committee of defence. He's now one of the most important voices connecting climate change to national security, arguing that the biggest threats to Britain aren't just missiles and tanks, but water scarcity, food system collapse, migration flows, and the geopolitical contests opening up in a melting Arctic.
This conversation was recorded twice. The first time was on the day the Iran war started. Given that Richard's expertise sits at the intersection of conflict, energy security, and climate, we decided to re-record a few weeks later to capture how the war has changed the global energy landscape and what it means for the UK's climate and security strategy going forward.
We talk about why national security is much more than defence spending, why the Straits of Hormuz closing should terrify anyone who cares about food or fuel, and why building renewable energy isn't just good for the planet, it's one of the smartest military strategies we could deploy. Richard also explains why electric tanks are a stupid idea, why biodiversity loss is the crisis nobody's talking about, and why pragmatic optimism is the only mindset that works when facing a problem this big.
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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00:59 Impact of Iran War
05:34 Will the war speed up renewables?
09:18 Africa's hidden fertilizer crisis
12:08 Defence spending vs the green transition
18:52 What national security ac…
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Climate YouTuber: Lies might be winning. But there's good news. | Dr Simon Clark (4K)
13 april 2026 · 1 uur 30 min
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Dr Simon Clark is a climate YouTuber with 720,000+ subscribers who's spent 15 years translating climate science for audiences who didn't know they needed it. He's a physicist by training, a communicator by choice, and someone who's watched misinformation campaigns evolve from fringe conspiracy theories into sophisticated, well-funded operations that now shape how millions of people understand the climate crisis.
This conversation goes deep into why lies are winning, why the truth resists simplicity, and why the platforms we rely on to spread information are fundamentally designed to reward the wrong things. We also talk about what's actually working when it comes to UK climate policy, why Ed Miliband might be the most underrated figure in British politics right now, and why Simon thinks the Iran crisis could be Asia's Ukraine moment for clean energy.
We cover:
Why climate misinformation is so successful: it's simple, it fits social media, and it tells people what they want to hear
The fundamental shift from debunking to pre-bunking, and why signal-boosting bad arguments by responding to them is a trap
Why food misinformation has escaped scrutiny in a way fossil fuels haven't, and how Big Tobacco's playbook was inherited by the food industry
The conditions that created the misinformation crisis: a deficit in media literacy, platforms designed to reward sensationalism, and billionaires buying up media to control the algorithm
Why democratic oversight of discovery algorithms is one of the most important climate conversations we're not having
Trojan Horse videos: how Simon packages climate content to look like skeptic material, then pulls the rug two minutes in to reach people outside the choir
Why the UK has reduced domestic emissions by over 50% since 1990, and why almost nobody knows that
Simon's honest assessment of the UK government's climate policy: energy…
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The Formula For Making ANYONE Care About Climate | Phil Korbel, Carbon Literacy Project
31 maart 2026 · 1 uur 22 min
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This is a slightly different ep. The first ½ is a more traditional podcast chat. But the 2nd ½ is me putting Phil to the test by roleplaying as 4 different people: A secondary school teacher, a middle-class retiree, a young professional and a right-wing politician
Phil Korbel is the co-founder of the Carbon Literacy Project, a Manchester-based charity that has trained over 153,000 people across 50 countries in climate action. Starting from a shared desk with no salary and a big idea, Phil and his co-founder Dave Coleman have built one of the most powerful climate education movements in the world - reaching everyone from security guards to IPCC scientists, wedding planners to funeral directors.
We cover:
Why recycling is near the bottom of the list, and what actually moves the needle
The Carbon Literacy formula: how does acting on climate help you thrive in your specific role?
Why polar bears are banned from Phil's training (and what that says about climate communication)
The emotional structure of a carbon literacy day and why doom without agency is dangerous
How 153,000 people got trained mostly through word of mouth
Why professional advisors - lawyers, accountants, financial advisors - need to understand climate as a core competency
The "Burt the security guard" story that perfectly captures what a culture shift actually looks like
How to handle a denier in the room without letting them suck up all the oxygen
What Phil says to a right-wing politician who thinks clean energy means living in caves
Why anger about climate might be your most useful tool - if you channel it right
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here:
https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Climate Scientist: Why Net Zero 2050 is a Dangerous Delusion | Kevin Anderson
17 maart 2026 · 1 uur 24 min
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Kevin Anderson is one of the world's leading climate scientists and Professor of Energy and Climate Change at the University of Manchester's Tyndall Centre. A former oil and gas engineer turned academic, he's advised governments across the UK and Wales, worked closely with Greta Thunberg, and spent three decades arguing that the gap between what climate science demands and what policymakers actually do isn't accidental — it's a choice.
In this conversation, we get into the raw numbers behind our climate commitments, why the people who know the most tend to say the least, and why Kevin believes the real agents of change aren't the experts or politicians. They're us.
We cover:
The three numbers everyone needs to understand about climate change
Why 1.5°C is almost certainly already gone
Why net zero 2050 is a moving goalpost that nobody's updating
The academic "delusion" — why experts say one thing on microphones and something very different over a pint
Carbon capture, blue hydrogen and SAF
How climate change is a continuation of colonialism
Why we are absolutely not "all in this together" — and why pretending we are suits exactly the people it should embarrass
What he learned fromGreta Thunberg
Where hope actually lives (hint: it's not renewable energy stats)
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This podcast is sponsored by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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Find Kevin's writing and talks at climateuncensored.com
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Chapters
00:00 3 things everyone needs to understand about climate
04:50 Why 1.5 degrees is gone
08:21 Should China’s declining emissions be celebrated?
11:11 Why we should talk about impacts, not temperature
13:41 Where is the communication breaking down?
17:06 Why K…
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Can you eat meat AND care about the planet? | Frank Holleman, Founder of Fork Ranger
2 maart 2026 · 1 uur 10 min
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Frank Holleman is the founder of Fork Ranger, an app and movement that's helping 150,000+ people to eat more sustainably. He's spent six years proving that the most effective climate action isn't perfection, it's making sustainable eating so ridiculously easy that it slips under people's resistance radar. His philosophy is simple: we don't need a few perfect environmentalists, we need millions of people taking imperfect action.
This conversation unpacks why food is responsible for one third of global emissions, why beef is five times worse than chicken, and why replacing beef with literally anything else is the single easiest climate win most people aren't taking. We also talk about the psychology of behaviour change, why going from "never again" to "90% less" makes all the difference, and how eating seasonally became Fork Ranger's most popular product even though it only reduces 2% of food emissions.
Frank also shares the framework that drives his entire approach: make the invitation to change small enough that it never triggers fight or flight, and why level three of sustainable eating isn't about cutting dairy, it's about inviting two friends to start level one.
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In this episode, we dive into:
Why food causes one third of all global greenhouse gas emissions, and over half of that comes from meat (even though it contributes only 17% of calories but uses 83% of agricultural land)
The carbon footprint gap: beef is five times worse than chicken, which means swapping beef for chicken is a bigger climate win than most people realize (and you don't even have to go vegetarian)
Why there IS a role for animals in a sustainable food system, but only on marginal lands in small amounts, which means meat becomes a luxury, not a weekly staple
The two hardest parts of eating sustainably: the unknown and behavior change itself (finding new recipes, imagining what it taste…
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Why Britain Can't Fix Its Energy Crisis | Good Energy Founder, Juliet Davonport
17 februari 2026 · 1 uur 10 min
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Juliet Davenport founded Good Energy and spent 20 years proving that a distributed renewable energy business could actually work driven by the philosophy that ordinary people, not governments or corporations, should drive the energy transition.
This conversation goes deep into the parts of the energy debate that almost nobody explains clearly — why your energy bills are high, who's actually responsible for fixing the grid, and whether lower carbon and lower costs can genuinely happen at the same time.
We talk about why wind and solar were designed to maximise output rather than serve customers, how the national grid went from managing 30 power stations to millions of generators overnight, and the uncomfortable truth about why fossil fuel lobbying works as well as it does.
Juliet also shares the framework that shaped her entire approach to climate action — and why she thinks getting angry at bad actors is one of the least effective things you can do.
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This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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In this episode, we dive into:
Why energy conversations should be about people, not power stations - and how we've spent decades designing renewables to maximise output instead of delivering what consumers actually need
The engineering mistake that's costing us billions: wind turbines designed for maximum megawatt hours instead of smooth, predictable output that matches when people use power
How the UK energy system went from managing 30 fossil fuel generators to millions of renewable sources - and why the data and software still aren't good enough to handle it
Marginal pricing explained: why gas sometimes sets the energy price (and sometimes doesn't) - and why in summer we actually get…
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CEO: Capitalism vs. climate is the wrong question | Kate Williams, 1% for the Planet
2 februari 2026 · 1 uur 23 min
Kate Williams is CEO of 1% for the Planet, the global movement founded by Patagonia's Yvon Chouinard that's certified over $820 million in environmental giving - and they're on track to hit their first billion. She's spent the last 11 years scaling a model that proves capitalism can work differently: 1% of revenue (not profit) goes to vetted environmental nonprofits, no matter what kind of year you've had. Lees meer
It means rent for the planet (and its financial discipline) is baked into the P&L. And it's proof that simple actions, done repeatedly, in community, at scale, can aggregate to billions of dollars in impact - without putting a ceiling on what companies can do beyond that.
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This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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In this episode, we dive into:
→ What trends is she seeing in the market?
→ How is 1% for the Planet different from Patagonia?
→ Why should nonprofits exist separate from the market?
→ What has Kate learned from Yvon? (Patagonia’s founder)
→ Why did the pandemic cause a huge increase in sign-ups?
→ How is 1% using capitalism’s mechanisms for good?
→ What are non-profit’s role in climate progress?
→ Would Kate pick up a call from ExxonMobil?
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Find out more about 1% for the Planet at: https://www.onepercentfortheplanet.org/
Connect with Kate Williams on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katewilliams87/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
Timestamps
00:00 Non profit’s role in climate
05:42 What is 1% for the Planet?
11:28 Why 1% of Revenue, Not Profit?
18:35 Vetting Nonprofits and Impact Areas
23:47 Dollar-Per-Impact vs Systemic Change
27:29 How can we do capitalism differently…
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Why your climate messaging is backfiring (and what actually works) Dr. Renée Lertzman
19 januari 2026 · 51 min
Dr. Renée Lertzman is a climate psychologist who's worked with the likes of Google, Transport for London, the White House,and WWF - and her TED Talk has been viewed over 2 million times. She trains changemakers, organisations, and businesses around the world to stop using outdated models of human behaviour and start applying what we actually know about psychology to create real, lasting change. Lees meer
Most of us are working from an old, outdated understanding of humans as rational, logical beings - and it's killing our effectiveness. Her work is about ditching the "yell, tell, and sell" approach and learning how to create the relational conditions where people can access the care they already have.
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This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
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In this episode, we dive into:
Why you can't make anyone care about climate - and the reframe that actually works: people already care, but something's getting in the way of that care
The three things blocking people from acting on climate: feeling powerless, perceived conflicts with identity/heritage, and lack of safety to express vulnerability
"Yell, tell, and sell" - the three dominant (and failing) approaches to climate communication: moralising and scaring people, over-educating with facts, and toxic positivity cheerleading
Why motivational interviewing works: asking "what's your experience with flying?" instead of "don't you realise how bad flying is for the planet?"
The Transport for London cycling campaign that showed a woman riding through a park with flowers - and why honest, gritty messaging (like showing someone drenched and miserable) would actually work better
How Renée trained message researchers to talk with conservative Republican climate skeptics using active listening - and by…
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How being ‘green’ became elitist (are you guilty?), Mark Shayler
5 januari 2026 · 1 uur 4 min
Mark Shayler has spent 35 years working in sustainability before it was cool - and he's saved his clients over $200 million while doing it. He's an environmental consultant, innovation specialist, and straight-talking force of nature who works with everyone from Coca-Cola to Unilever to tiny manufacturing businesses in Bradford. He believes that, whilst business created most of the world's problems, it's also the thing that can fix them. Lees meer
Mark doesn't do sandals-and-placards environmentalism. He meets companies where they are, speaks the language of profit and loss, and isn't afraid to work with the "bad guys" if it means shifting their trajectory by even half a degree. This is sustainability from the inside out - messy, pragmatic, and unapologetically commercial.
In this episode, we dive into:
Why "being green" has become a way of beating people down instead of democratising climate action - and how judgment creates division, not progress
The evolution of corporate sustainability requests: from "keep me out of prison" to "keep me lean" to "help me care more" to today's "help me stay relevant and attract talent"
Why Mark would work with Shein - and exactly what he'd change (regenerative cotton, circular polyester, legitimate leasing instead of borrowing-with-tags-on)
The project-level litmus test: if you can't put the company name on your intro slide without embarrassment, don't take the work
Why quarterly reporting and employer-tied healthcare in America are the biggest brakes on innovation and brave climate action
The "highways department conundrum" - we'll need to see it's too late before we do something about it ("no one's died yet, do you want me to volunteer my 93-year-old nan?")
How consumption became an anti-depressant and why we're no happier buying our 10th pair of jeans than our first
The fertility of "rapid deposition" - why the last third of life should be about giving knowledge away, not hoarding it (and why Mark's plan is: don't retire, don'…
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Mike Berners-Lee: The Climate Lies You’ve Been Sold
8 december 2025 · 1 uur 8 min
Professor Mike Berners-Lee is the internationally renowned bestselling author of How Bad Are Bananas?, The Burning Question (co-authored with Duncan Clark), There Is No Planet B, and most recently A Climate of Truth. He's a professor at Lancaster University and works on carbon footprinting through his company Small World Consulting, which has worked with companies like BT, Microsoft, and all 15 UK national parks. A couple of weeks ago, Mike chaired the National Emergency Briefing in Westminster Hall to hundreds of political, business, faith, culture and media leaders. Lees meer
In this episode, we dive into:
Why the "energy transition" is actually an "energy addition" - we've grown renewable energy by 2.5x since the first COP, but fossil fuel use has grown 60% in the same period
The three things actually needed for energy transition: grow renewables, constrain fossil fuel supply through carbon pricing, AND reduce total global energy demand
Why individual carbon footprints don't directly cut global emissions (it's like squeezing a balloon - it pops out elsewhere) - but why they still matter for creating ripple effects and cultural change
The psychology of climate denial - from grief transition curves to "disavowal" (when you understand the evidence but live as if you don't) - and how to move past protective mechanisms
Why carbon accounting is broken - most companies use random system boundaries that make numbers incomparable, and why we need to count everything in supply chains once and once only
The dishonesty crisis: how a "broken trinity" of politics, media and business is dragging each other down instead of raising the game - and why we need a "me too moment" for political deceit
Media ownership matters - who owns what you read, their track record, and how subtle influence shapes thinking over time (including a taxonomy of deceit techniques)
The week Mike spent investivating Bjorn Lomborg's book The Skeptical Environmentalist that exposed hundreds of errors and s…
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Marketing Director: “Climate is Trapped in the Culture Wars” | Sam Zindel, Gen R founder
25 november 2025 · 1 uur 17 min
Sam Zindel is Managing Director at digital marketing agency Propellernet and founder of GEN R. Gen R is an environmental movement that uses music and art to support nature. He's created a jukebox that plants trees for every song played - and it spent the summer with Fatboy Slim. Lees meer
Sam's mission is to drag environmentalism out of the culture wars and root it back into popular culture where it belongs. No sandals required. No technical jargon. Just fun, accessible climate action that meets people where they already are - at gigs, festivals, and in the pub.
In this episode, we dive into:
Why 80% of people care about the environment but the climate movement is still stuck in an echo chamber - and how to fix it
The story behind the 1959 vinyl jukebox that plants trees, displays holographic bees, and ended up at Fat Boy Slim's Brighton cafe after debuting at Glastonbury
Why scaring people with sea level rise or confusing them with "scope 1 emissions" are terrible entry points to climate action
The school play moment that changed everything - when an 8-year-old read a story about a hummingbird and called out the adults in the room
How Propellornet went from measuring a 91-ton carbon footprint to funding a million trees in three years (and why offsetting for £1,000 felt "appalling")
The three core principles of Gen R: individual decisions without judgment, collective responsibility, and accepting imperfect progress
Why "movement is a message" - from reusable cup schemes at festivals to train travel included in football tickets
The power of imagination over climate denial - even if you don't believe in global warming, who wouldn't want cleaner air at the school drop-off?
Why nature is a superpower in climate storytelling and how the Wildling app makes it accessible to everyone (not just National Trust members)
Book recommendations: How Bad Are Bananas? by Mike Berners-Lee, From What Is to What If by Rob Hopkins, and Net Positive by Paul Polman
Thank you to Ecolog…
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Meet the man organising an Emergency Briefing for your MP | Nick Oldridge
11 november 2025 · 1 uur 21 min
Email your MP to get them to attend! Visit https://www.nebriefing.org/ Lees meer
Send them their personalised video invite (already made): https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BWde8rCy2pBFL_Eid-rEJ6XIQqSUEqq_lnj9TZaapI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.r7al6r613w88
Nick Oldridge is on a mission to get all 650 UK MPs into Westminster Central Hall for the National Emergency Briefing - a crucial wake-up call about the climate crisis happening in just 23 days from recording. As the co-founder of Climate Science Breakthrough, which created viral videos featuring comedians like Joe Brand and Jonathan Pie translating climate science, Nick knows how to break through the noise.
In this episode, we dive into:
Why the UK's claimed 50% emissions reduction is "clever accounting" that doesn't include major sources like Drax power station, aviation, or imported goods.
The eight expert speakers who'll deliver 10-minute TED-style talks covering everything from food security to NHS collapse to national security threats.
How comedy became the unexpected vehicle for climate communication - and why Joe Brand's appearance on Good Morning Britain marked a turning point
The shocking perception gap: people think net zero will cost 28% of GDP when it's actually just 0.2% - or £1.30 per person per week.
Why shifting to a plant-rich diet could free up land the size of Scotland and why the economic benefits of reaching net zero would save the UK £37 billion annually
Nick's "one-way gate" moment with climate scientist Kevin Anderson that transformed him from observer to activist, leading him to invest his children's inheritance into climate action
The power of ending on positive solutions, from renewable energy to nature recovery, and why "movement is a message"
This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: http…
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Why the climate debate is LOSING. (And how to fix it) Will Hayler, founder of Blue Earth Summit
27 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 11 min
Will Hayler is the co-founder of Blue Earth Summit, the leading gathering for leaders, investors and changemakers driving a regenerative future. Their headline event is over 3 days with over 7,000 total attendees, 1,500 business attending and attendees with over £10bn of assets under management. Lees meer
The mission of Blue Earth is to “transform the way the world works”. So in this episode, I asked
This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
You can learn more about Blue Earth Summit at: https://blueearthsummit.com/
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“The BIGGEST problem with the sustainability movement is…” Adam Bastock People Planet Pint founder
14 oktober 2025 · 1 uur 22 min
Adam Bastock is the founder of People, Planet, Pint. A sustainability meet-up that he’s scaled globally to 15 countries, with only 1.5 full time employees. Lees meer
In this episode, we cover:
Why he’s mellowed on personal action
How not to get stuck into perfectionism
What people focus on that doesn’t matter
How gamification works to change behaviour
Difference between demand and need in sustainability
How thinking of people as light vs. dark green is helpful
The game that even sustainability professionals get wrong
How climate action can be thought of as a marketing funnel
Why presenting logical facts doesn’t result in logical outcomes
This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
You can find out more about Adam on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adambastock/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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An expert guide to becoming an impact millionaire, Oliver Dauert
29 september 2025 · 1 uur 10 min
Oliver Dauert is on a mission to make you an impact millionaire. He’s an ecopreneur with a community with over 40,000 people. Lees meer
He’s the founder of Wildya where he helps people do exactly that: ecopreneurs go from idea to impact.
Oliver explains why food systems—not energy—are the frontline of biodiversity loss, how shifting to a more “plant-powered” diet creates outsized impact, and why awareness of nature’s decline lags so far behind climate change.
We explore the drivers of nature loss (habitat destruction, over-exploitation, pollution, invasive species, and climate change) and what ordinary people can do to make a difference.
We also dive into parenthood, community building, and how to actually start conversations about nature with friends and family without turning them off. Oliver shares his take on regenerative agriculture, ecopreneurship, and why being an “impact millionaire” beats chasing unicorn status.
This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
You can find out more about Oliver on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-dauert-49016075/
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
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00:00 What Does “Building a Wilder World” Mean?
02:51 Everyday Examples of Nature Loss
04:32 Simple First Steps to Reconnect with Nature
07:10 Why Biodiversity Awareness Lags Behind Climate
10:08 Kids, Travel & The Spark for Caring About Nature
12:24 The Main Drivers of Nature Decline
15:29 Food Systems & the Impact of Diet
20:19 Becoming More Plant-Powered
21:08 Parenthood & Long-Term Thinking About Nature
25:56 How to Start Conversations About a Wilder World
33:49 What Is Regenerative Agriculture?
38:43 Balancing Wo…
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How to avoid “F*ck it, the world is burning” mindset. Do this instead. Hannah Cox, Better Business
15 september 2025 · 1 uur 14 min
Hannah Cox is running 100 marathons in 100 days across India to raise £1m for climate-affected people through 1% for the planet in a mission called Project Salt Run. She’s also the founder of the Better Business Network (BBN) which is a nationwide network for purpose-driven businesses. Lees meer
We get into why materiality, not moral purity, drives real impact (Hannah shares how a materiality assessment can help your business to have actual impact. Hannah shares the BBN playbook for building inclusive, non-judgmental communities, the “easy, accessible, cool” framework that nudges behavior change at festivals (like the reusable cup token scheme), and why collaboration and asking for help beat lone-wolf heroics. We talk money as fuel not destination, travel and privilege, skepticism of vague net-zero pledges, and why “movement is a message”—plus how to pick your own Project Salt Run and trust your gut when the stakes feel scary.
This podcast is brought to you by Ecologi, the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out here: https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth
Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked podcast at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
And connect with me on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-coop/
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A zero bullsh*t guide to nature impact with Elliot Coad, founder of Ecologi & 30x30.
31 augustus 2025 · 1 uur 7 min
Elliot Coad is the founder of the nature non-profit 30x30 and the climate action platform Ecologi where they raised £10m to be one of Europe's fastest growing startups. Lees meer
We chat about why Elliot chose the non-profit instead of the venture-backed route, Elliot's advice if he was starting over, climate marketing strategies, the balance between personal and collective responsibility and much more! Subscribe to the Climate Unf*cked Substack at https://climateunfucked.substack.com/
Thank you to Ecologi for supporting the podcast. They're the UK's most trusted climate action platform. They help businesses reduce their emissions, restore our planet and report their progress for every step of their climate journey. Check them out at https://tinyurl.com/kfswnxth