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  1. Fashion Month Awards Part One: Chanel’s New Era & Tech Billionaires in the Front Row (with Dana Thomas)

    12 maart 2026 · 43 min

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    Paris Fashion Week wrapped up the Fall 2026 shows, so Amy Odell and New York Times bestselling author Dana Thomas are handing out the Fashion Month Awards. Lees meer

    Together they break down the biggest moments from New York, Milan, and Paris Fashion Week, including:

    • Prada’s viral runway stunt
    • Marc Jacobs’ comeback in New York
    • The rise of fashion watch parties bringing fans into the shows
    • Why tech billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg are suddenly sitting front row
    • The best trends and the weirdest trends of the season
    • What Chanel’s new era could mean for fashion

    They also talk about how fashion shows—and fashion media—are changing as creators, newsletters, and independent platforms reshape the industry.

    Part two of the Fashion Month Awards is available to Back Row Premium subscribers. Sign up at BackRow.net to get newsletter access and more exclusive fashion reporting included with your subscription, or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

    Chapters:

    00:00 — Introducing Dana Thomas and the Fashion Month awards
    01:25 — Is fashion entering a new generational era?
    04:10 — The shift from magazines to creators and newsletters
    06:40 — Loudest viral stunt: Prada’s layered runway trick
    10:15 — Fashion watch parties and opening shows to the public
    15:35 — Why fashion shows might become spectator events
    20:55 — Sleeper hit of the season
    24:30 — Most awkward front row celebrity
    28:00 — Tech billionaires invade fashion week
    31:50 — Hardest-working front row celebrity
    34:20 — Best trend of the season
    36:40 — Weirdest trend: the return of tails

    Links and Resources:

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    Back Row newsletter

    Dana Thomas
    Instagram
    Deluxe (book)
    Gods & Kings (book)
    Fashionopolis (book)
    Style Files (newsletter)

    Credits:
    Produced by Amy Odell. Audio editing by Joyce Ciesel, video by Jonathan Voytko.
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  2. The Real Story: JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette

    9 maart 2026 · 42 min

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    Amy Odell sits down with Liz McNeil and RoseMarie Terenzio, authors of JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography, to discuss the real romance between Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jr. that inspired the FX show Love Story, executive-produced by Ryan Murphy. Lees meer

    Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. in the 90s at George magazine, and McNeil covered him as an editor for People. For their book, they interviewed more than 150 people who knew him. They share personal encounters with the couple and people in their inner circle, talk about what John would have made of the frenzy over his style today, and explain what in 'Love Story' is pure fiction.

    PART TWO, including discussion of how the Kennedy family deals with relentless press and the REAL reason for that famous fight in the park, is available to Premium subscribers of ⁠Back Row. Sign up at backrow.net for full podcast and newsletter access, or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Why everyone is talking about JFK Jr. and Carolyn again
    01:25 What the FX show “Love Story” gets right (and wrong)
    06:10 Why Gen Z is suddenly obsessed with them
    07:10 The truth about JFK Jr.’s style
    12:10 What drew John and Carolyn together
    21:00 What Carolyn Bessette was really like
    29:30 Carolyn’s struggle with paparazzi
    35:30 The iconic wedding dress
    39:15 What the show said about the famous park fight

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    This episode was produced by Amy Odell, with audio editing by Joyce Ciesil and video editing by Jonathan Voytko.
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  3. Dior Review: Can Jonathan Anderson Cure the 'Luxury Ick'?

    6 maart 2026 · 10 min

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    Paris Fashion Week is off and running. Jonathan Anderson's fall 2026 Dior show kicked off the week — and Amy liked it a lot more than she expected! She reads her review of the show from the Back Row newsletter, which discusses how fashion has become mass culture and why designers like Anderson need to reach aspirational shoppers. She ends with the "Loose Threads" news roundup, featuring Condé Nast offloading 'Them,' and more. Lees meer

    PLUS, a teaser from Monday's interview with JFK Jr.'s biographers (8:45), inspired by the FX show Love Story.
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  4. The Secret Rules of the Hermès Game: Who Actually Gets a Birkin?

    2 maart 2026 · 32 min

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    Amy sits down with Noëmie Leclercq of luxury news outlet Glitz Paris to debate the "Hermès game" (aka everything customers allegedly have to do in order for boutiques to offer them the chance to purchase a Birkin or Kelly bag). They discuss pre-spends, background checks, and Hermès’ apparent alliance with Lauren Sánchez Bezos. Noëmie also talks about why superfakes have become a big problem; how the class action lawsuit in the U.S. has affected Hermès sales practices; and the secret “grey market” where billionaires buy the most exclusive bags. Lees meer

    In Part 2, Noëmie and Amy discuss whether or not the Birkin bubble has popped, why the market for "superfakes" is booming, and the (grim) outlook for Birkins on the secondhand market.

    Part 2 is available to paid subscribers of backrow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

    Chapters

    00:00 — Introducing Noëmie Leclercq of Glitz Paris
    01:10 — Is Hermès really stalking their clients?
    03:00 — Breaking down the Hermès game
    05:40 — Hermès locations: US vs. France
    06:00 — Who is the ideal Hermès customer?
    07:40 — This French law requires Hermès to background check clients
    12:10 — The pre-spend: does Hermès really need to sell furniture?
    19:00 — What is the grey market for Hermès products?
    24:40 — The Hermès lawsuit: how did it change the game?
    28:40 — Can the Birkin be overexposed?
    30:20 — Listen to part 2 for Noëmie’s take on if the Birkin bubble has popped

    Links & Resources:

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    Noëmie Leclercq — Glitz Paris

    This episode was produced by Amy Odell and edited by Amy Odell, Joyce Ciesel, and Jonathan Voytko.

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  5. Marina Larroudé on Anna Wintour, Barneys, and Building a Multi-Million Dollar Brand

    23 februari 2026 · 40 min

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    Amy Odell talks with fashion director-turned-entrepreneur Marina Larroudé about why she left Teen Vogue for Barneys -- and then started her own brand. Marina recalls Style.com's earliest days; how top brands really weren't on board with the internet; what it was really like to work for Anna Wintour; and what she saw from inside the industry that convinced her there was a big business opportunity in footwear. Lees meer

    Part 2 is available to paid subscribers at BackRow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify. In Part 2, Marina talks about how she makes walkable heels; what it was like for Taylor Swift to wear her shoes on the Eras tour; and her plans for the future of Larroudé.

    Products mentioned in this episode:

    ⁠Boat shoes⁠

    ⁠Fuzzy lined ballet flat⁠

    ⁠Dolly platform sandal⁠ (the same style Taylor Swift wore):

    ⁠Stella sneaker⁠

    CHAPTERS:

    00:00 — Introducing Marina Larroudé

    03:00 — Why are people so fascinated by Anna Wintour and the Condé Nast world?

    05:30 — What does the fashion director at Teen Vogue do?

    09:00 — Marina's experience at Style.com

    13:30 — The Bella Thorne photoshoot disaster

    16:30 — Marina's experience working with Anna Wintour

    18:40 — Why Marina left fashion media to work at Barneys

    25:10 — On founding Larroudé: "No one was making high-quality shoes for drop-off"

    35:00 — How Marina makes Larroudé's shoes comfortable

    38:30 — Listen to part 2 for Marina's take on what makes a walkable heel

    Back Row newsletter

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    Marina Larroudé:

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    Larroudé:

    Website

    Instagram

    TikTok

    This episode was produced by Amy Odell and edited by Amy Odell, Jonathan Voytko, and Joyce Ciesel.

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  6. Why Big Fashion Doesn’t Dress Olympic Figure Skaters

    19 februari 2026 · 9 min

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    This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published February 17, 2026. Lees meer

    Why don't fashion designers view Olympic figure skating the way they do red carpets — as a forum to exploit for brand impressions? The sport is fabulous, glamorous, and awe-inspiring, after all. Amy digs into how figure skating costumes are made and why the world's top ready-to-wear designers generally don't want anything to do with making them — and why the athletes also aren't clamoring for brands to step in.

    Plus, a special New York Fashion Week report (6:00).
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  7. Confessions of a Luxury Sale Whisperer (with Madison Avenue Spy)

    16 februari 2026 · 46 min

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    Part 2 is available to paid subscribers at backrow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Lees meer

    In Part 2, Amy and Lila debate the Saks Fifth Avenue bankruptcy — detailing the brand's fraught relationship with Amazon, the possibility of government intervention, and what it all means for the future of the department store.

    On this episode of the Back Row Podcast, Amy talks with Lila Delilah, THE Madison Avenue Spy, about the current unhinged state of luxury retail — from the "Very Important Client" system to how luxury brands deal with all-out frenzies over once-secret sales. They also discuss the Hermès game, brands that have threatened to sue Lila, and more.

    CHAPTERS:

    0:00 – Introducing Madison Avenue Spy

    5:10 – Were there VICs in 2010?

    7:00 – How have luxury sales evolved?

    13:10 – The lines are getting out of control

    15:00 – What are the most legendary sales right now?

    16:10 – Will The Row do invitation-only sales?

    20:00 – Hermès shoppers are begging for appointments

    27:00 – The brands that threatened to sue Madison Avenue Spy

    31:10 – The bag-buying experience at Chanel vs. Hermès

    34:40 – Reacting to the “Great Reset”

    37:45 – Was Hermès ever really a fashion brand?

    41:00 – What could break the spell Hermès has on shoppers?

    Links & Resources:

    Back Row Newsletter

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    Madison Avenue Spy:

    Substack

    Website

    Instagram

    TikTok

    Telegram

    This episode was produced by Amy Odell and edited by Joyce Ciesil and Jonathan Voytko.

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  8. Are Awards Shows Just Luxury Marketing Now?

    9 februari 2026 · 39 min

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    Are awards shows still about movies — or are they now luxury fashion marketing disguised as cultural prestige? And who’s actually funding all these celeb red-carpet appearances — the studios, the stars, or the brands? Lees meer

    Amy Odell is joined by Debra Birnbaum, Editor-in-Chief of awards season news outlet Gold Derby, to break down how modern awards campaigns actually work and why the fashion is so important. Amy and Debra talk Timothée Chalamet’s Marty Supreme press tour and if it was too annoying to win (23:10); who really pays for all the glam (14:30); and how the Met Gala came to overshadow the Oscars (33:30).

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  9. How the Bravo Look Took Over Fashion and Beauty (with Watch What Crappens)

    2 februari 2026 · 52 min

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    Part 2 of this episode is available to paid subscribers at backrow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Lees meer

    After years of quiet luxury, opulence is back in fashion.

    In this episode of the Back Row podcast, Amy traces the origins of fashion’s current obsession with excess — all the way back to… Bravo?

    Joined by Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam of the wildly popular Watch What Crappens podcast, they discuss how Real Housewives culture shaped today’s luxury landscape, even as the fashion world distanced itself from reality stars. Lauren Sánchez may be one of the most talked-about attendees at couture week — but Bravo stars have been doing her look for 20 years! They also talk about how much Bravo helped get Gigi and Bella Hadid's careers going, Rachel Zoe's debut on RHOBH, and more.

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 – Introducing Ben & Ronnie of ‘Watch What Crappens’
    01:20 – Lauren Sanchez’s style is just the Bravo look
    05:00 – Breaking down the Bravo aesthetic
    10:40 – Are Sky tops coming back?
    16:50 – Will fashion ever accept the Real Housewives?
    24:30 – Would the Hadids have happened without Bravo?
    27:30 – What’s up with Mauricio’s Chanel blanket?
    30:40 – Is Rachel Zoe too confident for the Real Housewives?
    37:10 – Bravo misidentified a Kelly bag
    40:20 – The Birkin that costs $1,000,000 (before you can buy it!)
    44:30 – Is plastic surgery the new Birkin?

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  10. Celebrity Brands: What Works, What Doesn’t (Goop, Rhode & More)

    26 januari 2026 · 38 min

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    In Part 2, Ana Andjelic and Amy Odell break down Meghan Markle’s new brand As Ever, how The Row quietly built one of the most powerful luxury brands in fashion, and what's next for Chiara Ferragni after her acquittal. Lees meer

    Part 2 is available to paid subscribers at backrow.net (which includes full newsletter access) or through Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

    Celebrity brands are everywhere—but what separates the ones that thrive from those that fail? Can fame alone turn a celebrity idea into a lucrative enterprise?

    In this episode of the Back Row Podcast, Amy Odell sits down with branding expert Ana Andjelic (former Chief Brand Officer of Esprit & Banana Republic, author, and the voice behind the newsletter The Sociology of Business) to break down the secret formula behind the most successful celebrity businesses.

    From Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop to Selena Gomez’s Rare Beauty and Hailey Bieber’s billion-dollar sale of Rhode, they explore why fame alone isn’t enough, how authenticity clashes with marketing hype, and what it really takes to turn star-power into a lasting cultural phenomenon.

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 – Introduction: Why some celebrity brands succeed while others fail
    03:20 – What is Gwyneth Paltrow even selling at Goop? And with the relaunched Gwyn clothing line?
    09:10 – The death of quiet luxury: where does Gwyn fit?
    10:50 – Apple Martin and Gwyneth’s viral Calvin Klein moment
    11:30 – What’s kept audiences captivated by Gwyneth for 30 years
    18:00 – Predicting the future of Gwyneth’s brands
    21:10 – Alex Cooper and Unwell Hydration is more than just trendy water
    29:00 – The key to Hailey Bieber’s $1 billion brand deal
    32:45 – Selena Gomez’s Rare Beauty is playing the long game
    35:00 – Shay Mitchell and Toddler Face Masks: rage bait or reputation ruin
    36:00 – Meghan Markle’s brand As Ever: “Last time I talked about her, I got raked over the coals”

    Links & Resources
    Back Row Newsletter

    Amy Odell - Instagram

    Ana Andjelic:
    Instagram
    The Sociology of Business (Newsletter)
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  11. Retail Confessions: Inside Harrods — Demanding Shoppers and the Rules of the Ultra-Rich

    19 januari 2026 · 11 min

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    On this holiday episode of The Back Row Podcast, Amy Odell shares a special installment of Retail Confessions, featuring an anonymous interview with a former Harrods sales associate. Lees meer

    The interviewee discussed what it was really like working on the shop floor at one of the world’s most famous luxury department stores — from intense sales pressure and demanding clients to the unspoken rules of the über-rich. To preserve anonymity, the interviewee’s responses are read by Amy’s husband, Rick.

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  12. The Recession of Size Inclusion in Fashion (with Lauren Chan)

    12 januari 2026 · 35 min

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    Amy Odell talks with model and writer Lauren Chan about what she calls a "recession of size inclusion" in fashion. After years of progress, brands are reverting back to casting “straight size” models by default —and the consequences go far beyond aesthetics. Lees meer

    Lauren shares a fashion week story that captures the problem perfectly: a major entertainment cover shoot featuring a size-12/14 talent had no designer samples available, Amy and Lauren discuss why it matters when the fashion industry ignores bigger bodies; how AI will affect body diversity in fashion; the impact of GLP-1s; and more.

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  13. Emily in Paris vs. Real French Style

    5 januari 2026 · 32 min

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    FOR PART TWO OF THIS PODCAST, sign up for Back Row Premium in Apple
    or Spotify. In part two, Amy gets Dana Thomas's thoughts on Emily in Paris after watching it for the first time; how French attitudes toward plastic surgery compare to those in America; and how the French feel about the Bezos billionaire lifestyle.
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    In this episode of the Back Row podcast, veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas joins Amy Odell to talk about Emily in Paris! She reveals what it was really like to actually live the fantasy of moving to Paris at 18 years old to work in fashion, how it influenced her style, and how actual French fashion is so different from the show.

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Why Emily in Paris works as fantasy
    01:30 Dana Thomas’s real “Emily in Paris” story
    03:40 Modeling and learning French beauty and style rules
    06:40 French chic vs. American cool
    09:50 Life as a teenage model in the 1980s
    12:00 Falling in love and moving to Paris
    14:00 How French women actually dress
    17:20 Scarves are very important
    22:30 The French style formula, explained
    26:20 Handbags, pockets, and why French women don’t carry much
    29:00 Men’s style in Paris vs. the "Emily in Paris" fantasy

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    Dana Thomas
    Instagram
    Deluxe (book)
    Gods & Kings (book)
    Fashionopolis (book)
    Style Files (newsletter)

    This episode was produced by Amy Odell and edited by Amy Odell and Jonathan Voytko.
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  14. How Gwyneth Paltrow's Extreme Diet Sparked a 'Detox' Craze

    29 december 2025 · 29 min

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    Gwyneth Paltrow has long been known for promoting various wellness fads that drive experts crazy. Long before she was publicly singing the praises of raw dairy products, she would publish "detox" diets each January. These were the foundation of Goop's wellness business. In this excerpt from Amy's latest book Gwyneth: The Biography, hear about how Goop began, how its viral diet advice generated great controversy (along with invaluable notoriety) in its early days, and how health and medical experts felt about it all. Lees meer

    Get the full Gwyneth audiobook here.

    Get Gwyneth: The Biography in hardcover or ebook here.

    Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from Gwyneth by Amy Odell, read by Chante McCormick. Copyright © 2025 by Amy Odell. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.

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  15. Anna Wintour, the Bezos Met Gala, and the Politics of Condé Nast (with Good Noticings)

    22 december 2025 · 38 min

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    What can we glean about Condé Nast's politics from recent current events? Teen Vogue has been shuttered, but Vanity Fair's Trump 2.0 package was a journalistic achievement of the sort rarely seen these days. Anna Wintour is a known Democratic supporter and fundraiser, yet she's been cozying up to the Trump-supporting Bezoses for Met Gala money. Amy Odell is joined by comedians and cultural critics Claire Parker and Ashley Hamilton, who host the highly addictive and excellent Good Noticings podcast, to figure out what this all says about Condé Nast right now. Plus, Melania Trump’s $40 million documentary, and how it ties back to all of this. Lees meer

    Chapters:
    0:00 – Welcoming the Good Noticings podcast
    0:37 – Vanity Fair’s major Trump 2.0 article and what it says about Condé Nast
    4:42 – Anna Wintour is leaning into controversy
    6:30 – Why did the Trump team do the Vanity Fair story?
    7:15 – Christopher Anderson’s photo spread
    8:53 – The discourse around Karoline Leavitt’s lip filler
    15:16 – Reacting to Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez Bezos sponsoring the Met Gala
    25:34 – The fashion relevancy of Melania Trump’s $40 million documentary
    29:26 – Would Vogue put Melania on the cover? Speculation!
    33:06 – How will controversy affect the Met Gala’s future?

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    Apple⁠⁠

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    TikTok: @goodnoticingspod
    Instagram: @goodnoticingspodThe Olivia Nuzzi Good Noticings episode

    Claire Parker Instagram: @clairethescare
    Ashley Hamilton Instagram: @ashleyhammm

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  16. Gwyneth Paltrow's Strategic 'Marty Supreme' Fashion Game

    19 december 2025 · 7 min

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    Can a 2.5-hour artsy, originally scripted film open at the box office? The Marty Supreme cast is so determined to get us to the theater for this movie that they're wearing full monochromatic orange for promotional appearances. Gwyneth Paltrow is being strategic with her fashion choices in other ways, and helping daughter Apple's prospects in the process. Lees meer

    This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published Thursday, December 18, 2025.
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  17. Rachel Zoe's 'Real Housewives' Debut (with Brian Moylan)

    15 december 2025 · 46 min

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    World-renowned Real Housewives expert Dame Brian Moylan joins Amy Odell on the Back Row podcast to talk about Rachel Zoe's debut on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills! They analyze what Rachel and Bravo gain from her joining the cast and why fashion people are so eager to get on this show. Then they recap all of Rachel's scenes in the first two episodes of season 15, and do some investigative journalism on Mauricio "Mo" Umansky's disturbing Chanel couch. Lees meer

    Chapters:

    00:00 - Intro to Dame Brian Moylan
    02:41 - Why did Rachel join the cast?
    07:26 - Why fashion people are joining Real Housewives
    11:09 - Recapping Rachel's scenes in episode 1
    12:38 - DOES MAURICIO HAVE A CHANEL COUCH?
    13:28 - Why are all the Birkins unclasped?
    27:11 - Rachel and Roger's shocking split
    33:22 - Rachel cooks bacon and eggs
    36:00 - What is Rachel implying about Roger's girlfriend?!

    FOR PART TWO OF THIS PODCAST, sign up for Back Row Premium in ⁠Apple⁠ or ⁠Spotify⁠. In part two, Brian and Amy recap RHOBH season 15 episode 2 and play the game "Cast or Pass," in which Amy gives Brian a fashion person and he decides whether or not to fantasy cast them as Real Housewives.

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  18. Versace's Second Shocker and Fashion's Great Unsettling

    11 december 2025 · 5 min

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    This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published December 9, 2025. Lees meer

    0:16 - Fashion enters its "great unsettling"

    1:47 - Prada Group acquires Versace

    2:24 - Broader instability across the fashion industry

    4:00 - Loose Threads news roundup
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  19. How Social Media Broke Fashion (and Everything Else) with Taylor Lorenz

    8 december 2025 · 36 min

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    Tech journalist and creator​ ⁨@TaylorLorenz⁩ joins Amy Odell on the Back Row podcast to explain how social media has completely reshaped fashion. From the backlash against fashion creators to why facts barely matter online, they dive into Vogue World, The Row's viral sample sale, and more. Lees meer

    Taylor, formerly at The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Washington Post, now runs her own newsletter, podcast, and YouTube channel covering the creator economy.

    Chapters:
    00:00 – Intro: Amy Odell welcomes Taylor Lorenz
    00:53 – Why fashion people are frustrated with social media
    01:49 – Why audiences trust creators more than experts
    02:42 – How algorithms reward outrage
    03:36 – Why being first beats being accurate
    04:25 – “Facts don’t matter”: the validation economy
    05:55 – Platforms secretly boost and suppress creators
    06:41 – Why follower count no longer matters
    07:29 – The death of critics (and why creators can’t be honest)
    08:15 – Will AI actually help creators?
    11:40 – How creators really make money in 2025
    12:38 – Advent calendars, meme marketing, and virality
    14:23 – The Row sample sale goes viral
    16:55 – Can fashion brands control their image? (No.)
    18:36 – The famous "Open letter to The Row"
    19:32 – Brands vs creators: a toxic relationship
    20:20 – Why brands can’t stop creators from posting
    22:05 – Why chasing access will break your heart
    22:49 – Anna Wintour’s decline and cultural relevance
    25:08 – Vogue World and the struggle for relevance
    26:41 – The Met Gala red carpet isn’t what it used to be
    29:46 – The Devil Wears Prada prequel problem
    30:38 – What it takes to survive online long-term
    32:13 – Why Becca Bloom fascinates people
    33:15 – The obsession with “capitalism slop”
    34:07 – Hustle culture and the fantasy of success

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  20. What Fashion's Wealthy 'Very Important Clients' Want and Gift for the Holidays

    3 december 2025 · 9 min

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    "Hermès playing cards are my go-to." Lees meer

    Chapters:

    01:35 - VIC no. 1: The Expat Living in Dubai

    03:10 - VIC no. 2: The Personal Shopper for Upper East Siders

    03:32 - VIC no. 3: The expat living in Hong Kong

    05:31 - VIC no. 4: The New Yorker who's feeling uninspired

    06:42 - VIC no. 5: The Personal Stylist to Upper East Side Billionaires and Centi-Millionaires

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  21. Is Vogue Still Relevant? Rachel Tashjian on Fashion’s Power Shift

    1 december 2025 · 35 min

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    Fashion critic Rachel Tashjian joins Amy Odell to unpack the biggest shifts happening right now in fashion media. From Vogue’s future to the creator vs. critic debate, AI-generated fashion models, $26,000 Versace dresses, and why fashion discourse seems to be getting meaner. Lees meer

    Rachel, formerly the Fashion Critic at the Washington Post and now Senior Style Reporter for CNN, breaks down:

    Chapters:
    00:00 – Intro: Amy Odell welcomes Rachel Tashjian
    00:21 – Rachel’s new role at CNN
    02:34 – Why video matters in fashion journalism
    03:54 – Are people still reading? Changing media habits
    04:22 – Amy on books, audiobooks, and audience shifts
    05:49 – The rising tension in fashion discourse online
    07:16 – When commentary overshadows the clothes
    08:22 – Algorithms flatten expertise in fashion
    09:29 – Creators vs. traditional editors: a 15-year evolution
    10:43 – Substack, TikTok, and where fashion criticism lives now
    11:35 – Access, honesty, and the cost of true criticism
    12:46 – Do creators need editors? The “no safety net” problem
    13:19 – Dior controversy: when brands exclude influencers
    14:31 – Should influencers follow critic standards?
    15:35 – Does Vogue still matter in 2025?
    17:06 – Why Vogue covers still trigger huge reactions
    18:33 – Anna Wintour’s influence across culture
    19:32 – How AI is about to transform fashion media
    20:55 – Performative fashion vs. post-Instagram design
    22:33 – Can AI replace fashion creators?
    23:54 – AI’s role in fashion advertising and image-making
    24:43 – Will AI replace human fashion voices?
    25:31 – The future: will Vogue become just covers?
    27:14 – The price conundrum: $26,000 dresses and who they’re for
    28:55 – What fashion brands really want from the public
    30:49 – TikTok’s misinformation problem in fashion
    31:49 – The Vogue rumor and how fake fashion news spreads
    31:57 – Three fashion creators Rachel loves
    33:29 – Three fashion creators Amy loves

    Links & resources:
    Back Row newsletter
    https://amyodell.substack.com

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  22. The Devil Wears Prada: Anna Wintour and the Assistant Who Started It All

    28 november 2025 · 18 min

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    Hype for The Devil Wears Prada 2 (out May 2, 2026) is already off the charts. In this special holiday episode, listen to an excerpt from Amy's book Anna: The Biography about how The Devil Wears Prada book and film came to be — and how Anna Wintour really felt about all of it. Lees meer

    Listen to the Anna audiobook on: Spotify, Apple, or Audible. Or get the book in print here.

    Amy's latest book Gwyneth: The Biography is also available in audio on: Spotify, Apple, or Audible. You can get the book in print here.

    Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from Anna by Amy Odell, read by Imogen Church. Copyright © 2022 by Amy Odell. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.
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  23. I Tried Victoria Beckham's Gray T-Shirt

    26 november 2025 · 9 min

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    And a bunch of other pieces from her clothing line. This is my story. Check out the photos in the Back Row story. Lees meer

    2:16 - Trying the gray T-shirt and jeans

    4:23 - Trying the legendary black pants

    5:10 - The oversized gray suit

    6:13 - The Blair midi dress (one with the rouching)

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  24. Black Friday: How Fashion Brands Use Cult Tactics on You

    24 november 2025 · 42 min

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    Brown may be the new black — but brands are the new cults. Amy talks to CUNY professor, author, and ex-marketing executive Dr. Mara Einstein about how brands exploit cult-like marketing tactics to get us to buy, particularly during events like Black Friday. They discuss the real reason brands pushed Christmas shopping before Halloween (!) this year; how brands get us to buy in a world where we're increasingly disconnected from each other; why the "attention economy" is really the "anxiety economy"; and more. Lees meer

    Chapters:

    00:00 - Intro to Dr. Mara Einstein and her research
    00:52 - How brands are like cults
    04:43 - How the luxury industry employs scarcity marketing to get people to buy things like Birkin bags
    06:59 - The power of scarcity marketing
    09:52 - How the economic blackout might affect retailers on Black Friday in 2025
    12:45 - How brands like Lululemon and Cos harvest your data
    16:54 - Why the "attention economy" is really the "anxiety economy"
    19:47 - How brands "rage bait"
    28:32 - How fashion marketing got people to buy Lucky Strike cigarettes in 1934
    35:03 - Dr. Einstein weighs in on the de-influencing trend

    Links & resources:
    • Amy Odell's Back Row newsletter —
    • Get Dr. Mara Einstein's book: ⁠Hoodwinked⁠ How Marketers Use the Same Tactics as Cults
    • Listen to Dr. Einstein's podcast, Hoodwinked in Apple:
    Or Spotify

    Credits:
    Produced by Amy Odell. Edited by Amy Odell and Jonathan Voytko.

    #FashionPodcast #BackRow #fashion #blackfriday #shopping
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  25. Kim Kardashian’s Brand Is Blankness; ‘All’s Fair’ Is a Tacky Mess

    17 november 2025 · 54 min

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    The Atlantic staff writer and Girl on Girl: How Pop Culture Turned a Generation of Women Against Themselves author Sophie Gilbert joins Amy to talk about All's Fair. The new Ryan Murphy show starring Kim Kardashian has received uniformly dire reviews — yet has triumphed in the face of its badness with pretty respectable ratings. Is this the end of competency in culture? Did All's Fair's creators intend for this show to be so terrible? Plus what Kardashian's captivating blankness, on unflinching view in All's Fair, says about the state of culture today. Lees meer

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction: All's Fair and its reception

    02:27 The show's themes and stars

    05:02 Why the Kardashians took off as reality stars

    06:53 All's Fair's depictions of plastic surgery and the Kardashian-Jenner influence on plastic surgery more broadly

    11:54 Kris Jenner's 70th birthday party and depictions of extreme wealth in popular culture

    20:02 Are we reaching the end of competence in culture, as we are in politics?

    24:15 Why girlbossing is back

    29:07 Comparing All's Fair's fashion to And Just Like That's

    32:32 What does Ryan Murphy really think of women?

    37:21 How Kim Kardashian is handling the show's scathing reviews

    41:16 Sophie on the most surprising thing she found when researching her book 'Girl on Girl'

    46:49 Sophie's thoughts on Lily Allen's astonishing new album about the dissolution of her marriage

    Links and resources:

    Get Sophie's book: Girl on Girl: How Pop Culture Turned a Generation of Women Against Themselves

    Read Sophie's All's Fair review in The Atlantic.

    Read Sophie's essay about how money is ruining television in The Atlantic.

    Read Jill Filipovic's essay, "The End of Competence."

    Read Amy's All's Fair fashion review or listen to it as a podcast in Spotify or Apple.
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  26. Anna Wintour's 10 Most Influential Covers

    13 november 2025 · 15 min

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    In honor of Anna Wintour's last Vogue cover as editor-in-chief, featuring Timothée Chalamet, Amy counts down her top 10 most influential covers from over the course of her career. Which ones would you add to the list? Lees meer

    (0:23) Why Timothée's cover was a big surprise

    (1:18) What the social media commenters said about the cover

    (3:01) The cover countdown begins

    (6:08) Countdown halfway point

    (9:14) Anna's number-one most influential cover

    (10:08) Back Row commenters weigh in on Amy's list and make their picks

    (12:20) Loose Threads (fashion news highlights) featuring All's Fair's terrible reviews, Kris Jenner's birthday party, and more.

    This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published November 11, 2025.

    Links & resources:

    • Amy Odell's Back Row newsletter

    • Anna: The Biography, by Amy Odell

    • "Ugly clothes for ugly times" by Raquel Laneri
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  27. Was Jane Birkin Unfairly Commodified by Hermès?

    10 november 2025 · 38 min

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    Amy interviews Marisa Meltzer, author of It Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane Birkin, about how Birkin became one of the most famous fashion icons of the sixties. Marisa talks about how she became the inspiration and namesake for the Hermès Birkin bag, and whether or not she was ever paid for this distinction. She also reveals how Birkin really felt about the Birkin bag becoming more famous than her — and much more. Lees meer

    (1:19) An excerpt from the audiobook of Amy's latest book, Gwyneth: The Biography
    (2:52) Jane Birkin's early life and upbringing, including how she met her husband John Barry when she was 17; and how she ended up moving from London to Paris and meeting Serge Gainsbourg
    (6:55) Birkin's significance as an icon of Swinging 1960s London
    (8:28) Birkin was an It girl in the pre-tech age. Can you reverse-engineer being an It girl today? Or does the algorithm sap people of the required mystery?
    (12:09) How romantic relationships vault It girls like Birkin and Gwyneth Paltrow.
    (14:14) The Birkin bag origin story.
    (18:57) Did Hermès unfairly co-opt Birkin's name for a massively profitable bag? How did she feel about it?
    (22:16) How much Hermès paid Birkin for use of her name.
    (25:57) How Birkin handled aging out of her It girl status. (Or did she become an It dame?)
    (31:00) Was Jane Birkin ambitious?
    (32:34) Amy and Marisa play a game: It girl or not an It girl? Featuring: Alix Earle, Lauren Sánchez, Anna Wintour, Apple Martin, and more.

    Links & resources:

    Amy Odell's Back Row newsletter

    It Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane Birkin, by Marisa Meltzer

    Listen to Amy's book Gwyneth: The Biography in Apple, Spotify, and Audible.

    Check out Amy's biography of Anna Wintour, Anna: The Biography.

    Credits: Produced by Amy Odell. Edited by Amy Odell and Jonathan Voytko.
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  28. Victoria Beckham's Netflix Show: Infomercial or Documentary? With Ryan Bailey

    3 november 2025 · 45 min

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    Amy sits down with Ryan Bailey, host of So Bad It's Good, to analyze Victoria Beckham's Netflix docu-series. They discuss how it compared to David Beckham's docuseries and RJ Cutler's docs about Martha Stewart and Anna Wintour; what makes Victoria so appealing; what the show blatantly left out; and how the Victoria Beckham fashion line is actually performing as a business. Lees meer

    For more, follow So Bad It's Good with Ryan Bailey.

    Follow Ryan on Instagram and YouTube.

    Read Amy's earlier review of Victoria Beckham in Back Row.

    Time stamps:

    (00:00) Introduction to Ryan Bailey and His Podcast

    (01:09) Exploring the Beckham Docu-Series

    (04:36) Family Dynamics and Tabloid Drama

    (06:42) Victoria Beckham's Media Presence

    (08:26) Victoria Beckham's Fashion Journey

    (12:00) Insecurities in Celebrity Culture

    (15:53) Business Success and Challenges

    (21:17) Victoria Beckham's Fashion Brand and Industry Respect

    (22:51) Target Audience and Market Positioning

    (25:13) Body Image and Fashion Industry Challenges

    (27:03) The Pressure of Being a Nepo Baby

    (29:43) Owning Privilege and Public Perception

    (30:48) The Future of Celebrity Brands

    (34:24) Comparative Analysis of Celebrity Documentaries
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  29. The Row's Sample Was WILD

    28 oktober 2025 · 9 min

    Afspelen
    The Row's sample sale just wrapped in New York City. The slew of haul vlogs fans of the brand posted after pillaging the sale resulted in some of the best content involving influencers since the Fyre Festival. What do these tell us about the brand and the current state of shopping culture? Amy explores. Lees meer

    This story originally appeared in the Back Row newsletter.

    Also discussed in the show:

    The only The Row haul parody you need.

    Amy's earlier reporting on The Row from Back Row: Can the Olsens Make The Row the Next Hermès?

    Banana Republic is GOOD, friends. Check out this shirt dress and this button-down.
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  30. Avery Trufelman on the Origins of Modern Menswear and Gorpcore

    27 oktober 2025 · 36 min

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    Avery Trufelman, the host of the Articles of Interest podcast, talks to Amy about her new season, how the military influenced gorpcore and modern preppy clothing, Greta Lee's new Vogue cover, and more. Lees meer

    This is an extended version of the Back Row newsletter that published on October 21.
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  31. Does Gwyneth Paltrow Wish Me Well?

    20 oktober 2025 · 36 min

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    Amy Odell (author of Gwyneth: The Biography) interviews Linus Karp and Joseph Martin, stars and creators of the hit play with music, Gwyneth Goes Skiing — a send-up of the 2023 trial involving Gwyneth Paltrow and retired optometrist Terry Sanderson. Lees meer

    Amy talks about her interview with Terry Sanderson for her book; Linus and Joseph talk about their research process for the play; props (yes, they visited the Goop store); and why this viral courtroom moment translated so well to the stage. Gwyneth recently discussed Amy's book in British Vogue, and the three discuss that, too.

    Guests: Linus Karp & Joseph Martin

    🔗 Links & Resources
    • Buy Gwyneth: The Biography

    • Listen to Gwyneth: The Biography in Spotify
    • Gwyneth Goes Skiing tickets / info (NYC → Aspen → LA)

    Support the Show
    • Follow Back Row: https://amyodell.substack.com/
    https://www.instagram.com/instamyodell/
    • Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amy_odell

    00:00 — Intro: 'Gwyneth: The Biography' + 'Gwyneth Goes Skiing'
    00:29 — How Gwyneth and Terry Sanderson ended up in court
    01:40 — A preview of 'Gwyneth Goes Skiing'
    03:30 — Research: the play and the book
    09:00 — Portraying Terry Sanderson & Gwyneth Paltrow
    18:00 — Goop store visit & props
    22:00 — Amy recalls interviewing Terry Sanderson
    28:00 — Discussing Gwyneth's response to 'Gwyneth' in British 'Vogue'
    31:00 — Closing thoughts

    Credits
    Host and producer: Amy Odell
    Editing: Amy Odell and Jonathan Voytko
    Recorded October 17, 2025
    Photos: Anna Clare (Courtesy of Awkward Productions)
    Video: Courtesy of Awkward Productions
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  32. The Untold Story of Victoria Beckham's Brand

    14 oktober 2025 · 10 min

    Afspelen
    Amy reviews Victoria Beckham's new Netflix documentary, which sheds light on how she went from maligned tabloid star to the founder of her own fashion brand — and how she made over her image to earn the industry's respect. Plus, "Loose Threads" about Anna Wintour, Victoria's Secret, and more. Lees meer

    This episode originally ran in the Back Row newsletter.

    Subscribe to Back Row on YouTube for more stories like this.
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  33. Fashion Month Awards: Spring 2026

    13 oktober 2025 · 36 min

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    Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, fashion journalist and New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, to pick spring 2026 Fashion Month Awards. Categories include: Most Baffling Success; Best Debut; Most Polarizing Collection; and more. Lees meer

    For more stories like this, subscribe to the Back Row newsletter and Amy's YouTube channel.

    Get more from Dana Thomas in her Style Files newsletter.

    Books referenced: Amy's Anna: The Biography; Dana's Gods & Kings: The Rise and Fall of Alexander McQueen and John Galliano
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  34. The Verdict on Chanel!

    8 oktober 2025 · 8 min

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    Amy reviews designer Matthieu Blazy's historic debut collection for Chanel. Lees meer

    This podcast is based on this issue of her Back Row newsletter.

    Also referenced: this "Retail Confessions" column where a former Chanel sales person talks about what it was really like working in the store selling to some of the world's wealthiest people.

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  35. Jonathan Anderson's Dior Debut: The Response!

    2 oktober 2025 · 8 min

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    Well, it happened. At long last, Jonathan Anderson showed his first Dior women’s collection. Lees meer

    Is everyone happy now? Well, not really.

    Read this story in Back Row and see the images discussed.
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  36. Introducing Back Row with Amy Odell

    1 oktober 2025 · 2 min

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    I’m Amy Odell. You may know me from writing New York Times best-selling biographies of Anna Wintour and Gwyneth Paltrow. Or my first book, Tales from the Back Row: An Outsiders View from Inside the Fashion Industry. Lees meer

    I'm turning my popular Back Row newsletter into a podcast, covering everything from what's happening at luxury brands like Dior and Loro Piana, to trends in athleisure, to pop culture phenomenons like Emily in Paris or the Barbie movie.
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