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The Cross-Chain Intents Landscape with Catalyst
4 juli 2024 · 44 min
A problem we've been fiddling with in the interoperability landscape is this idea behind achieving maximum extensibility with regards to the creation of hundreds of new chains. Lees meer
We know that if there's going to be an overwhelming amount of chains, we need solutions that are permissionless and easy to spin up on new chains.
For today's podcast, we sat down with Catalyst CTO Alexander, to discuss this situation and more. We talked about the concept of the unit of liquidity, which enables asynchronous asset swaps between different pools on different chains. We went on to discuss the best way to tackle the N-squared problem in which traditional cross-chain solutions require each chain to know the state of every other chain.
We went on to talk about the idea of logic-dependent swaps, which allow for condition-based transactions. These swaps can be set to execute only if specific conditions are met, opening up novel use cases for onchain users.
Catalyst is already live on the mainnet with three OP stack chains: Blast, OP, and Base, with plans to extend to more ecosystems over time.
As the cross-chain landscape continues to evolve, with more app-specific chains emerging, Catalyst is aiming to solve this extensibility dilemma to address the challenges of scaling horizontally, in an interoperable way.
Hope you enjoy!
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸…
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Where Lumio Fits in The Modular Thesis
3 juli 2024 · 1 uur 1 min
There's quite a bit of conversation ongoing in the zeitgest of the modular research community. We tend to lean into technical topics more than the flavor of the day, but for this episode we managed to do both. Lees meer
We were joined by Alejo Pinto, one of the founders of Lumio, to discuss their modular VM abstraction framework, enabling developers to build and deploy apps everywhere, as well as the state of sequencing and composability in the space.
Lumio supports popular VMs like SVM, Move VM, and Parallel EVM, enabling applications to be deployed across various execution environments. This framework is designed to simplify life for devs by maintaining full compatibility with these VMs without requiring any code changes, thus promoting a "build-once-deploy-anywhere" philosophy.
This is pretty aligned with the modular thesis of build whatever, as well as a core pillar, optionality.
During our conversation with Alejo, we also touched on the hot topic of composability. Alejo shared his views on the debate between synchronous atomic composability and asynchronous environments, highlighting the tradeoffs between having a single global state machine like Solana versus a modularized scaling system.
One significant aspect of Lumio's work is its approach to shared and decentralized sequencers. Alejo emphasized the role of shared sequencing in optimizing crosschain messaging and contract calls, and highlighted the ongoing research and development in this area with projects like Espresso.
Join us as we explore how Lumio fits in the modular thesis with their modular VM abstraction framework.
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The C.A.K.E Framework, Credible Accounts, and Resource Locks
2 juli 2024 · 47 min
The C.A.K.E framework established that chain abstraction is a collaborative effort, and not a one winner takes all situation. Lees meer
This idea for how the intents and chain abstraction stack works was originally created by Frontier Research and now there is a C.A.K.E working group. Since then, they have also spun off a new project called OneBalance focusing on credible accounts and achieving the chain abstraction experience.
We were joined by Stephane, an ex-Flashbots team, and now leading the OneBalance team. We talked about their focus on developing a chain abstracted stack via credible accounts and resource locks. These innovations prevent double-spending and make secure cross-chain messaging possible without the need to lock assets on the source chain.
Collaboration is at the heart of OneBalance's mission, along with other chain abstraction contributors. Rather than replacing existing wallet infrastructure like MetaMask or Rabby, OneBalance aims to integrate its credible account capabilities into them to make the transition for users easier.
We asked how Stephane sees OneBalance getting traction and what the process would be like for active users to switch to their solution.
We also discussed the role that solver networks play in the chain abstraction ecosystem, executing transactions on behalf of users and ensuring fast fills. We discussed the permissionless access, speed, and price optimization properties of solver networks, which allows them to tackle the "order flow trilemma".
We also talked about MEV and local consensus towards the end, and uncovered a bold thesis from Stephane...His vision? Every validator and user account to operate as its own rollup.
Watch or listen to todays episode to learn about the CAKE framework and credible accounts as a means to achieving the chain abstracted future.
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Where Aligned Layer Fits in The Modular Thesis
1 juli 2024 · 50 min
The acceleration of ZK is happening at a rapid pace. Last week we covered the collaboration between Succinct and AggLayer on the proof generation side using SP1, a generalized ZKVM. Today, we're excited to share insights from our recent chat with RJ and Mauro from Aligned Layer, the other half to the ZK puzzle focused on verifying proofs. Lees meer
RJ and Mauro have deep roots in engineering and cryptography, originally honed at Lambda Class.
Aligned is on a mission to accelerate the Ethereum roadmap. By making ZK proofs more accessible and affordable for developers, they are building out the first verification layer.
We had a lot of questions for these guys.
One of them was around Aligned’s approach to verifcation with a stateless architecture, meaning they aren't building their own but instead focus solely on proof verification. We asked about centralization concerns and also managing their consensus as a network. They are doing this as an Eigenlayer AVS, utilizing the economic security of Ethereum.
We also asked them straight up how many proofs per second they can verify currently and why their "complete verification" system is superior to others. We discussed why proof aggregation is so important to their setup as well.
Towards the end, we discussed the ways Aligned is aiming to reduce the cost of reading proofs on Ethereum as well as developing more efficient aggregation methods. They are committed to integrating with the broader Ethereum ecosystem, working with LRT providers and other partners to enhance economic security and network adoption.
Watch or listen to this interview to learn about the landscape of ZK proof verification.
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Taiko's Based Rollup Is Live, Now What?
28 juni 2024 · 36 min
There's been a lot going on in the zeitgest with regards to based rollups, pre-confirmations, MEV, and whether or not based rollups are going to make it in the longer term. Lees meer
We're about to find out.
In today's podcast, we were joined by Taiko's founder Daniel Wang, to discuss their "permissionless based rollup" which allows unrestricted block proposals and proofs.
One of the challenges Taiko faces is the higher cost associated with base rollups compared to centralized sequencers due to the onchain protocol rules. Daniel explained that profitability is achievable as their transaction volumes grow. Currently, transaction fees on Taiko are minimal.
We discussed the gradual decentralization of Taiko’s long-term vision. They aim to give up most of their control from a block proposing POV within a year, aligning with Ethereum’s core ethos and principles. In addition, we discussed the move Taiko is exploring with plans to launch their Base Boosted Rollup (BBR) and integrate ZK proofs by Q3.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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ZK Acceleration: Pessimistic Proofs with AggLayer and Succinct
27 juni 2024 · 49 min
Is ZK real? Unironically, this was the first question Robbie asked our guests Uma Roy, founder of Succinct & Brendan Farmer, co-founder of Polygon. Lees meer
If you've been following the latest developments in ZK (but not trademarked), you'll know that it is the closest thing to the endgame of crypto. However, you'll also know the progress has been somewhat slow as its not a trivial task to build zk circuits and logic.
Enter: Succinct & generalizable ZKVMs. SP1 is the rust-based zkVM built Succinct allowing developers to write standard Rust code and leverage ZK technology seamlessly. Uma and co have been making insane strides in reducing the costs of generating zk proofs while other teams are meticulously working on proof verification improvements.
We had the pleasure of exploring the collaboration between AggLayer and Succinct, which is using SP1 to bring practical zk to production. AggLayer is specifically designed to tackle Ethereum's fragmentation problem by enabling asset fungibility and low-latency interoperability across different L2 chains. The big innovation here is Plonky 3 as well as the idea behind Pessismistic proofs.
Throughout this conversation, we explore how SP1 integrates with AggLayer, enhancing developer velocity and enabling seamless communication between different L2 chains, pessimistic proofs, the rise of rust-based ZKVMs, ZK for interoperability, and expanding the application space built atop of ZK.
Join us for a technical conversation about a great collaborative effort to scale ZK and thus, the entire crypto space.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 …
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Where Everclear Fits in The Modular Thesis
26 juni 2024 · 58 min
Everclear, formerly known as Connext, recently launched with a fresh focus as the Clearing Layer aiming to solve the ever-present modular fragmentation problem. Lees meer
Today we talked with Arjun Bhuptani, about their history coining the term "chain abstraction", building an intents-based bridge, and now working to collaborate with the intents and solver community. With Everclear, they are focusing on the clearing layer and chain abstraction stack.
We discussed the critical challenges of liquidity management for intent protocols and solvers and how to solve these by enabling solvers to net out their flows between chains, reducing the need for frequent rebalancing and lower interoperability costs. This approach not only makes it easier for solvers to operate across multiple chains but also addresses the centralization risks present in the solver landscape.
This centralization and single-solver dominance is something we've been thinking about at The Rollup so it was nice to hear Arjun's POV on handling this situation.
Overall, we've seen the market for intent-based protocols and solvers expand dramatically, and Everclear's clearing layer is designed to thrive in this landscape. But, can they do what they set out to and get the "buy-in" from the right players? We asked Arjun and he answered this, and the centralization question with ease.
The other big issue we brought up is the extensibility problem faced by many interoperability protocols, where they cannot scale to 'infinite' separate environments because of their infra constraints...we also asked Arjun how Everclear is able to scale as the number of chains grows. Lots of good tidbits.
Currently, the project is live on testnet, with plans to finalize their dutch auction system for pricing and netting. The team is targeting a full launch in Q3, incorporating ongoing developments and feedback.
Enjoy this somewhat technical dive into the landscape of cross-chain intents and interoperability.
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Is sharding the path to achieving maximum scale?
25 juni 2024 · 46 min
Sovereignty or interoperability. Lees meer
Your choice, anon.
In the recent zeitgest of crypto builders has been the idea of achieving sovereignty while also keeping interoperability. Today, we’re diving into this with Avi Zurlo, Chief Product Officer of =nil; Foundation. For this conversation, we had a focus on sharding and how =nil; Foundation is approaching this choice.
Since its inception, =nil; Foundation has been a key player in low-level cryptographic infrastructure, focusing heavily on ZK technology. With innovative products like ZK LLVM and a ZK proof marketplace, =nil; is all in on building a scalable ZK rollup, based on zkSharding.
In this pod, we explore the important distinctions between sharding and rollup-centric scaling. We also discuss horizontal scaling, distributing workloads across multiple machines, and scaling without sacrificing decentralization (and of course, interoperability).
We also look ahead to the roadmap which promises significant scalability, and a long-term oriented approach with the goal to be resilient for decades to come.
Somewhat technical, and quite insightful. Hope you enjoy!
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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Why Chain Abstraction is Inevitable
24 juni 2024 · 1 uur
As large believers and proponents of the modular thesis, we (along with other voices in the space) have identified fragmentation as a kink in the armor of modularity. Lees meer
We think chain abstraction solves a lot, if not _all_ of this subpar user experience. Chain abstraction is all about making the user experience seamless.
It is an experience itself.
In today’s podcast with Ethan, devrel at Particle Network, we explored the definition of chain abstraction, where Particle fits, as well as the three core components of chain abstraction: blockchain-level, account-level, and application-level solutions.
Blockchain-level abstraction involves infrastructure solutions like AggLayer and Superchain, which provide shared security and unified bridging. Account-level abstraction, where Particle plays a major role, focuses on creating universal accounts that unify account states and balances across chains, giving users one address and one balance usable on any chain. Application-level abstraction allows developers to create chain-agnostic applications, orchestrating cross-chain workflows seamlessly (think Agoric, Socket, and others).
We discussed the idea behind universal accounts, which leverage account abstraction to provide a unified balance and address across all chains.
Finally, we discussed the Particle Network which is a Cosmos SDK based L1 which aims to maintain state parity across chains, ensuring secure and efficient transaction execution. We discussed their native token and the role it will play in this ecosystem.
We are pretty bullish on future of chain abstraction as we believe it’s the next logical step in modularity, and crypto as a whole.
Hope you enjoy this initial episode about chain abstraction as we have more in-depth episodes coming down the pipe.
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP12: Taproot Wizards, CatVM, and OP-CAT
20 juni 2024 · 44 min
For the final episode of our Bitcoin and Beyond series, we had the pleasure of sitting down with Taproot Wizards sorcerer and Bitcoin OG, Tyler Whittle. Lees meer
We took a deep dive into the world of Taproot Wizards and the intriguing OP-CAT mechanism, designed to enhance Bitcoin’s functionality.
Taproot Wizards is a community dedicated to "making Bitcoin magical again".
They are deeply rooted in Bitcoin culture and technology, aiming to push the boundaries of Bitcoin while not letting the ossification of Bitcoin happen. Basically, they are trying to avoid the "pet rock" do something meme.
Their biggest contribution to the space is CatVM. We took a journey through a children’s book that cleverly explains Bitcoin’s scaling journey through lightning, BitVM, and eventually CatVM.
Central to CatVM is OP-CAT, a simple yet powerful opcode which is just 8 lines of code, yet makes a massive change in the functionality of Bitcoin. Originally part of Bitcoin but disabled in 2010 by Satoshi (along with other opcodes), OP-CAT allows for covenants and finite state machines, unlocking new possibilities for Bitcoin transactions.
In this discussion, we’ll delve into the vision of Tyler and the broader Taproot Wizard community.
Enjoy our final episode of this educational series!
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP11: Is economic security a meme?
18 juni 2024 · 32 min
Cryptoeconomic security has been an extremely hot topic as of recent. With the rise of restaking and the general concept of "extending economic security" to new applications/services, we have seen some of the brightest minds in the space dedicating their career to this idea. Lees meer
In today’s piece, we take a closer look at Babylon Protocol, a protocol that introduces staking to the Bitcoin community and has a focus on extending Bitcoin's economic security. We were joined by Sankha Banerjee, chief economist of Babylon, to address this topic.
We talk about their integration which allows Bitcoin holders to lock their coins on the blockchain, participating actively in PoS systems and even taking on slashing risks in exchange for potential yields and upside. We discussed the technicals of their time lock mechanism that stakes Bitcoin while also providing economic support to other networks within ecosystems like Cosmos.
Furthermore, we dove into the nitty gritty of slashing mechanism employed by Babylon, which is is designed to safeguard the network's consensus and integrity by penalizing faults such as double-signing through advanced cryptographic techniques. We went pretty deep here for 5-10 minutes.
Finally, towards the end, we asked Sankha if economic security is a meme or not.
We really enjoyed his response and this conversation as a whole!
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP10: Programmable Native Bitcoin On Cosmos
17 juni 2024 · 1 uur
As we wrap up our Bitcoin and Beyond series this week, we had a chance to sit down with Robert Zaremba of BitCosm. Lees meer
BitCosm is building a Cosmos SDK based appchain that allows for programmable (and native) Bitcoin, leveraging the Bitcoin script and eventually BitVM.
Being the same ecosystem as dWallet, BitCosm has a zero trust model, which eliminates the need for bridges and significantly reduces security risks. The dWallet Network plays a crucial role here, enabling secure, decentralized transactions across chains without compromising security.
In this presentation, we learned about the IBC Gateway as a means for more secure bridging, how BitCosm enables the conversion of dWallet assets into IBC tokens, how programmable & native Bitcoin works, and the ins and outs of "zero trust" interoperability with native Bitcoin.
Join us as for a technical presentation about interoperability in the Bitcoin scaling ecosystem.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP9: Rollux's Merged Mining, Data Availability, and Bridging
14 juni 2024 · 1 uur 4 min
We've been diving heads first into the technical design structure of Bitcoin L2s over the last two weeks with the goal of uncovering what is really happening behind the scenes in this space. Lees meer
Today's video, we did just that with Jagdeep Sindhu. Jag is a seasoned Bitcoin OG and has a strong opinion about the acceptable trust assumptions in Bitcoin scaling designs.
Jag's vision is to transform Bitcoin into a 'super chain' where utility and security are both achievable without unnecessary tradeoffs. Rollux uses merge mining to borrow Bitcoin's security, while introducing chain locks every fifth block to enforce finality and prevent long-range attacks on the sidechain.
They also have their own zk based DA solution which powers their chain. By combining elements of PoW and PoS for enhanced security, Rollux is trying to build secure interoperability solution. We discussed the future outlook for Rollux being a secure transfer hub for Bitcoin and other chains like Ethereum and Avalanche as well.
We enjoyed the depth of the technical architecture on this conversation and Jag answered all of our questions regarding Bitcoin security and more.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP8: Alpen Labs' Modular Rollup Layer via ZK on Bitcoin
13 juni 2024 · 44 min
Alpen Labs is a project that is making significant strides in the world of ZK rollups. In our conversation with David Seroy, we explore the evolution of Bitcoin scaling solutions and the story of how Bitcoin scaling really started. Lees meer
David and the Alpen Labs team have been pioneering the research around Bitcoin scaling since the earliest of days.
We talked about this story and David also shared his insights into how Alpen Labs prioritizes trust minimization and efficient design to enhance Bitcoin's scalability while preserving its decentralized nature as the core ethos.
We delve into the technical design choices that set Alpen apart as well as their focus on ZK as the endgame. We talked about their implementation of BitVM and how they have made technical strides in addition to other researchers. We also discuss the challenges and opportunities in Bitcoin scaling, including liquidity issues and the potential of future soft forks like OPcat and covenants.
Looking ahead, Alpen envisions building a robust financial ecosystem on Bitcoin, focusing on financial applications such as Bitcoin-backed stablecoins, perpetuals, and hash rate futures. David has a strong perspective on the core usecase of crypto being the hardest money in the world, of which Bitcoin is the best contender in the entire space.
Watch today's interview for a glimpse into one of the leading research teams for scaling Bitcoin.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP7: Zero Trust Protocols with dWallet Network
12 juni 2024 · 59 min
We're sure you've heard of zero knowledge proofs through our various pieces with industry leaders, but have you heard of zero trust protocols? From what we understand, its a newly coined term to describe the multi party computation tech utilized by the dWallet team. Lees meer
In today's presentation, we take a closer look at the evolution from the "castle and moat" model to zero trust. We discussed how traditional internet companies initially used the castle and moat model, but shifted towards zero trust due to its enhanced security.
We went on to discuss how dWallet Network is reintroducing zero trust in cross-chain environments using cryptographic techniques like a new MPC protocol, 2PC MPC. 2PC MPC ensures transactions require user participation, maintaining zero trust even if validators collude.
This approach is crucial for maintaining Bitcoin's security ethos while enabling advanced functionalities, such as decentralized custody solutions, staking, atomic swaps, lending, and other cross-chain functionalities.
Applying zero trust in cross-chain environments is complex due to having to settle different blockchain states and the necessity to trust third parties for this state validation. We discuss how dWallet is setting the standard for what this should look like using their zero trust protocols.
Learn about zero trust protocols and the evolution of security in crypto throughout today's video presentation from Omer.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP6: How Stacks Is Scaling Bitcoin with Muneeb Ali
11 juni 2024 · 47 min
No one better to discuss the bull case for Bitcoin L2s than long-time Bitcoin advocate and Stacks founder, Muneeb Ali. Lees meer
In today's video, we explore the competitive landscape of Bitcoin L2s, highlighting Stacks’ first-mover advantage and why Muneeb is extremely bullish on Bitcoin scaling primitives. We discuss the initial use cases for Bitcoin as collateral for yield generation, Bitcoin as a payment system, as well as the great "unlockening" of billions in dormant capital.
We also discuss the modular vs. integrated debate, and how he views the progressive modularization of Bitcoin as it aims to be more scalable. As the conversation became more technical, we touched on the utilization of various trust models and mechanisms, including federations and threshold wallets with economic incentives. Muneeb shed light on how Stacks leverages institutional partners for security.
Join us for a conversation about the bull case for Bitcoin L2s with one of the earliest adopters of scaling tech.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP5: BitVM, OPCAT, and The Evolution of Bitcoin
10 juni 2024 · 53 min
The Bitcoin ecosystem is leapfrogging the development trajectory put forth by the Ethereum community Lees meer
Today's piece focuses on how potential upgrades to the Bitcoin technologies like BitVM and OPCAT are opening up fresh possibilities for utilizing Bitcoin. Bitcoin has often been viewed as "conservative", but recent advancements suggest it could leapfrog over previous limitations, learning from Ethereum's experiences.
We sit down Carsten of Cartesi to discuss how BitVM introduces new capabilities for offchain computation and enhances Bitcoin Script with innovative functions like hash implementations and Merkle tree proof validation. These advancements open up new opportunities for contributing to Bitcoin Script, potentially making Bitcoin a more efficient and versatile platform.
Despite Bitcoin's conservative approach, there's a growing recognition that it needs to evolve to support more complex use cases. The introduction of BitVM and OPCAT helps address this by simplifying implementations, reducing script size, and enabling more efficient processes.
However, the road ahead isn't without challenges. There isn't enough experimental data to predict how new implementations will work in practice, and there's skepticism about the safety of large amounts of BTC the asset on L2s.
Join us as we explore these key highlights and what they mean for the future of Bitcoin and DeFi, shedding light on how BitVM and OPCAT could shape a more innovative and robust onchain ecosystem.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP4: CoreDAO's Native Bitcoin Staking Architecture
7 juni 2024 · 55 min
Welcome to episode 4 of Bitcoin and Beyond. Lees meer
We all know Bitcoin as the original Proof of Work chain, so how does staking come into play?
In today's episode we explore CoreDAO's consensus mechanism, staking offering, and technical bridging architecture. CoreDAO is aiming to separate Bitcoin’s asset value from its transactional rails, enabling higher throughput and lower cost ecosystems. This separation allows Bitcoin to be used more efficiently, particularly through bridging and HTLC atomic swapping.
By introducing the Satoshi Plus consensus, CoreDAO combines Bitcoin mining, staking, and Core token staking for cryptoeconomic security.
The vision of CoreDAO is to create a modular approach to Bitcoin, similar to Ethereum’s rollup-centric roadmap, making Bitcoin more scalable and efficient while maintaining its core ethos.
We talked about CoreDAO's focus on Bitcoin alignment, bringing Bitcoin holders and miners into consensus, which is crucial for addressing long-term sustainability issues, such as reliance on transaction fees post-halving.
Watch today's video for a technical dive into the Core architecture.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP3: Molecule is Bringing SVM To Bitcoin Scaling
6 juni 2024 · 30 min
One of the best parts about our modular thesis is that it also applies to Bitcoin. We are seeing the same ideas of bringing next-gen VMs to Bitcoin scaling in the same way that we see with with Ethereum rollups. Lees meer
Notably, the tech hurdles to actually get an SVM rollup on bitcoin is much harder.
Today we are specifically focusing on integrating the Solana Virtual Machine (SVM) onto Bitcoin. This idea aims to bring the fastest programmable execution layer to Bitcoin.
In our interview with Chase from Molecule, we dive deep into the technical aspects and potential of SVM. He shares insights on why the team believes next-gen VMs, like SVM, can significantly enhance Bitcoin's capabilities.
One of the primary challenges with Bitcoin has been its inability to natively support smart contracts and dApps. Molecule addresses this by exploring two main solutions: sidechains and rollups (L2s). While sidechains are faster to market, they don't inherit Bitcoin's security. On the other hand, rollups settle on Bitcoin and inherit its security, though they require more R&D currently (as we've discussed thus far).
The discussion also touched on the importance of a modular approach to Bitcoin due to its L1 restrictions. Technologies like OP-CAT, expected to be implemented in the next 6-12 months, will simplify complex transactions, enabling *actual* ZK rollups.
As we continue to embark on this journey together, we hope you enjoy the technical learnings as much as we do!
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳…
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP2: Build on Bitcoin's Hybrid Rollup Architecture
5 juni 2024 · 57 min
The trajectory to achieving a "full rollup" on Bitcoin is a gradual process, similar to that of Ethereum rollups gradually implementing fraud proofs/zk technology. Lees meer
Build on Bitcoin (BoB) has taken the approach of building a product (on mainnet now) which resembles more of an hybrid optimistic rollup between Ethereum and Bitcoin L2. They have been quick to market and have built a strong community.
Despite the challenges, such as the complexity of building on Bitcoin compared to other ecosystems, BoB is set on making advanced features like zk and account abstraction available over time.
BoB’s approach tackles three major challenges: aligning with Bitcoin’s ecosystem, creating a real ecosystem of builders & apps, and ensuring liquidity for new projects. By leveraging both Bitcoin’s security and the Ethereum network, BoB is working to establish this balance.
But, this comes with tradeoffs which we thoroughly address in this presentation.
BoB’s journey is divided into several phases. Phase 1 which is already live is their optimistic Ethereum rollup. Phase 2 introduces Bitcoin PoW security through merge mining, while Phase 3 aims to transition to a Bitcoin rollup with fraud proofs (using BitVM) and potential ZK capabilities.
We also discuss their OptiMine protocol, which similar to PBS, separates block production from block finalization for allowing faster finality leveraging Bitcoin's miners. This innovative approach ensures consistent block fees and enhances miner incentives for the longer term.
Join us as we take a technical dive into the architecture of Build on Bitcoin with their CTO, Dominik Harz!
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Bitcoin and Beyond EP1: Citrea's ZK Technical Design Explained
4 juni 2024 · 47 min
Welcome to the first episode of our Bitcoin and Beyond presentation series. Lees meer
We aim to provide you with technical knowledge about the state of different Bitcoin scaling solutions. Are they sidechains? L2s? True rollups?
For the first episode, we're diving into Citrea, a project focused on bringing ZK to Bitcoin with a true rollup design (using Bitcoin for data availability).
We sat down with Orkun Kilic, to discuss Bitcoin’s security and ZK. Citrea is designed to use state differences and ZK proofs, making data usage more efficient and scalable from the jump. This approach overcomes the traditional limitations of Bitcoin, allowing for sophisticated onchain operations beyond simple transactions.
But, is using Bitcoin for data availability really a feasible path? We asked Orkun about this and more.
Citrea also introduced, Clementine, a peg mechanism which minimizes trust and ensures that BTC can be used seamlessly across different layers. By (soon) utilizing BitVM for optimistic verification of ZK proofs, Clementine provides an innovative way to maintain Bitcoin’s robust security while facilitating efficient data and state transitions.
Again, we asked Orkun just about all that we could to really understand why they've chosen to design Citrea in the way they have and he answered thoroughly.
Welcome to Bitcoin & Beyond. Lets have some fun.
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The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪…
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The Future of Modular Execution Layers
30 mei 2024 · 29 min
If you've been following along for sometime, you've likely heard of Fluent as part of our Modular March campaign or in a previous episode. Lees meer
We first met Dino last year, early on in the development of their zkWasm L2, powered by a web assembly virtual machine (for execution). This has long been a part of our modular thesis, so naturally we were extremely interested in their newly launched "Blended execution" idea.
In today's video, we set out to understand why blended execution networks are superior to single execution. We learned about the idea behind "taking the best parts" of modular VMs like EVM, WASM, and SVM and coexist with each other. This approach brings a new level of interoperability to the modular eco for devs, making it easier for them to leverage their own background and skills to participate in crypto.
Dino also shared insights into his journey in coming to the idea of blended execution, the challenges they've overcome, and what lies ahead.
Dive in with us and understand the concept of blended execution networks for the modular future.
The Rollup
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴. -
Does the integrated thesis have legs?
29 mei 2024 · 35 min
We are huge proponents of the modular thesis as our entire brand is centered around this. We often challenge ideas which we have a shared thesis with as part of the channel, as well as welcome new ideas to the the mix. Lees meer
In today's video we got the chance to understand the idea behind the integrated thesis with Movement Labs and Omni have been pushing forward. While we did spend some times talking about the different terminology, to us that's not the important part.
In fact, we want to focus on less confusion for all of those involved in the modular ecosystem. We still prefer modular.
However, the important takeaways from this conversation stem from the ideas of solving the fragmentation issues at hand with modularity and "putting all the pieces of the puzzle" together in a cohesive way.
In today's episode, we understood the challenge of describing hybrid blockchain designs with various modular parts, leading to the term "integrated."
These were initially called "Frankenstein chains."
Unlike traditional monolithic blockchains, integrated solutions combine modular elements into cohesive, efficient systems. This approach draws parallels to microservices in modern software, offering flexibility and optimization...but isn't this just the meaning of modular?
Kinda...
Integrated solutions, as posed by Rushi, Austin and others focus on reducing fragmentation, and bringing different modular parts together, thus enhancing user experience through abstraction and seamless interaction.
We found room to counter, learn, and understand the vision of where the modular movement is headed. Again, the terminology is not the core part so much as the idea of where we are headed as an ecosystem.
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Introducing Forma: Celestia's Culture Hub
28 mei 2024 · 42 min
The modular ecosystem is still in its infancy stages. Lees meer
We are at the cusp of an acceleration of sovereign rollups built with Celestia underneath. This idea, while new to many, has been at the root of Celestia's roadmap since inception. In today's video we take you through everything you need to know about sovereign rollups, with a focus on Forma.
We discuss how Forma has been carefully designed to leverage the unique properties of sovereign rollups, a key distinction that allows it to operate independently of traditional chains by settling directly to Celestia. We go into some of the technicals such as their custom pre-compiles and a specialized execution environment meant to handle detailed metadata and intricate interactions between NFTs.
Their goal is to allow artists and onchain creators to build more nuanced and dynamic digital assets.
We ask about their thoughts about using TIA as gas token and how they plan to align Forma with a broader community of over 600,000 active wallets. We were also joined by Achilleas from the Celestia team to discuss Modularium and the upcoming weekly mint cycle.
We discuss how users can get involved by minting open editions (for a low mint cost such as 0.1 TIA) and why you should be paying attention to the first art and culture project built within Celestia's ecosystem...think about Art Blocks and Fidenza's for example.
Whether you're a builder or a collector, understanding sovereign rollups and Forma's approach to onchain creations is relevant.
Watch today's video to get up to speed with the first sovereign rollup in the Celestia ecosystem!
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The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠…
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Programmable IP in the Age of AI
17 mei 2024 · 32 min
The core properties of blockchains (immutability, transparency, trustlessness) are extremely well suited for intellectual property. Lees meer
Intellectual property is defined as: "A category of property that includes intangible creations of the human intellect."
In today's episode, we talk with Jason Zhao, founder of Story Protocol. Story Protocol is bringing in a new way IP marketplaces are created onchain, coining the term "Programmable IP" in an effort to set a new standard in how IP is registered, managed, and monetized in the crypto space.
At the heart of Story's innovation is the programmability of IP rights, allowing creators to specify how their work can be used, shared, or remixed, fostering a dynamic marketplace of ideas. The first thing that came to our mind was our Pudgy Penguin NFTs as our profile pictures, seeing as there are many penguins in the collection being licensed out in the form of physical toys.
Story Protocol addresses the challenges of the traditional IP regime, which struggles with the nuances of generative AI and the digital replication of ideas.
By making IP rights transparent and enforceable on a blockchain, Story enhances collaboration and innovation across the creative industries. This approach not only democratizes creativity but also ensures that creators are fairly compensated, which is typically not the case in traditional IP industries.
Join us for an exploratory, not so technical discussion about the future of IP onchain and how these worlds are colliding as we speak.
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The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶…
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What is a declarative blockchain?
16 mei 2024 · 43 min
Blockchains, as we know them today, are imperative. Lees meer
This means, we interact with every application needed to achieve a certain outcome onchain…we care about the process in achieving a specified end result.
The intent-centric future aims to flip this model on its head and usher in a different way of building and interacting with decentralized systems.
At the heart of this shift is the evolution from imperative to declarative programming in blockchain environments. This transition moves us away from specifying every step of a transaction (the 'how'), focusing instead on the desired outcomes (the 'what'). By embracing a declarative approach, blockchain technology becomes more intuitive and user-friendly, aligning more closely with the natural flow of human thought and reducing the complexity traditionally associated with onchain interactions.
In today’s video, Robbie sits down with Simon and Liesl to discuss Essential, the first declarative blockchain. Key to their design is a concept previously mentioned called 'intents'—declarations of what users want to achieve, without detailing the ‘how’.
They further explore the presence of solver networks in Essential, the architectural backbone of declarative blockchains, and how a novel system of constraints and rules governs blockchain state updates.
Join us as we explore how declarative blockchains are setting the stage for a more efficient, secure, and user-centric future.
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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪…
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Where RiscZero Fits in The Modular Thesis
15 mei 2024 · 49 min
We believe in a future of verifiable computation. The modular future cannot exist without zk. Lees meer
After last weeks video asking "Will ZK eat the modular stack?" and realizing its all but guaranteed, we have set out to learn more about how zkVMs and ZK will make an impact. Our focus today centers on how RiscZero utilizes zk proofs and how zkVM works.
At the core of RiscZero's mission is the democratization of ZK technology, making it accessible and simpler for everyone. This effort is crucial as it enables the verification of computations in significantly less time than it takes to perform them, fostering scalable cross-verification without redundancy. We discussed the global state layer with regards to zkVM, and how Risc Zero is implemented into different rollup frameworks such as Sovereign Labs.
RiscZero’s use of the RISC-V architecture streamlines the integration of ZK proofs by allowing developers to leverage existing codebases, which drastically simplifies the development process.
ZK isn't so easy to understand, we tried to make it as easy as possible for you. Hope you enjoy.
The Rollup
00:00 Introduction
04:12 Intro to zkVMs
06:08 Verifiable Computation
08:49 Development of zkVMs
11:08 Role of RISC-V Chips
12:19 zkVM Impact on Rollups
19:24 Implementations of zkVM
28:49 Lowering Costs of ZK Proofs
45:46 zkVMs in the Modular Stack
RISC Zero Website: https://www.risczero.com/
RISC Zero Socials: / risczero
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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The VC Investment Thesis for Modularity
14 mei 2024 · 1 uur 12 min
VCs have been getting a lot of hate recently. The era of high FDV, low float launches may be coming to an end soon...or will it? Lees meer
In today's conversation we sat down with Mads Mathiesen, a long-time crypto researcher and now leading research for an elite crypto VC Maven11. He was writing about data availability and Celestia in 2019-2020, before anyone was really paying attention to modularity.
We talk about Maven 11's big bets on modularity and why VCs are under fire in the current regime. We also talk about the evolution of crypto funding models in from the 2017 ICO craze to the structured funding models of today, the landscape has evolved dramatically. We also explore potential shifts in VC strategies to better align with the unique timelines and risks inherent in crypto projects.
After that, the conversation went into the big bets that Maven 11 has placed on modularity and the key players which they invested in early. Recently, Mads put out a post about the commoditization of complements strategy which a ton of the modular parts play. We discussed this in-depth and we found a lot of commonalities in our theses as well.
The Rollup
Maven 11 Website: https://www.maven11.com/
Maven 11 Socials: https://twitter.com/Maven11Capital
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰…
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Modular Execution & VM Landscape 2024
10 mei 2024 · 46 min
A big part of our modular thesis this year is the need for extremely high TPS blockchains which create a far better user experience, as well as a better dev experience. Lees meer
You may have heard the terms "altVMs or next-gen VMs" come up on X or in other videos of ours when referring to building L2s/rollups not using EVM.
This brings us to the heart of today's discussion with Robert Sasu, a core developer for MultiversX with firm opinions about different virtual machines and execution stacks.
We discuss the MoveVM, SpaceVM, Web Assembly/Wasm, Solana VM, Linux-based VMs and more. We asked Robert how they stack up with each other when it comes to solving current scalability challenges. The goal for today is to provide insights into where we think the Ethereum scaling landscape is headed, as well as the broader modular ecosystem.
Join us for an overview of the execution layer landscape in 2024 and understand why this is a core part of our thesis.
The Rollup
MultiversX Website: https://multiversx.com/
MultiversX Socials: / multiversx
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰…
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Will zk eat the modular stack?
9 mei 2024 · 26 min
Will zk eat the modular stack? Isn’t zk an enhancer for the stack as a whole? Which parts of the stack will be disrupted by zk, and how? Lees meer
Today, we're diving into a thought-provoking interview with Hannes from Equilibrium Labs to get all the answers . Equilibrium Labs specializes in low-level protocol engineering, helping protocols become safer, faster, and more usable.
The core idea of "Will ZK Eat the Modular Stack?" revolves around two major trends: modularity and the expansion of ZK technology.
We also explored the trade-offs between optimistic and ZK security, as well a look into an expanded modular stack. The full stack now includes over ten components like User Operation Abstraction, Shared Sequencing, Data Querying, Long-term State Storage, and Security, going beyond the traditional modular stack's four components of Execution, Settlement, Data Availability and Consensus.
We're on the cusp of early ZK adoption across various modules, with RaaS providers and rollup frameworks starting to offer more and more options.
Full adoption of a ZK-ified modular stack might be closer than we think.
Join us as we uncover how modularity and ZK are the perfect fit for each other!
Equilibrium Website: https://equilibrium.co/
Equilibrium Socials: https://twitter.com/equilibrium_co
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩…
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The Evolution of Crypto Incentives
8 mei 2024 · 37 min
One of our core beliefs is the acceleration of experimentation in crypto. We believe that continuously testing novel incentive designs will lead to better results in the future. That being said, not every mechanism is going to work. Lees meer
Today, we set out to understand what will work in a sustainable way going forward from the perspective of Jordi Alexander.
Jordi is the founder of a trading firm Selini capital, an 'Alchemist' at Mantle Network, a podcast host, as well as a champion chess and poker player. We discuss positive sum games in crypto, as well as the current zeitgest of token launches and community building in crypto, Eigenlayer launch and restaking, as well as Jordi's passion project within the Mantle ecosystem.
Join Andy and Jordi for an enjoyable conversation about the evolution of incentives and game theory in crypto today.
The Rollup
Mantle Website: https://www.mantle.xyz/
Mantle Socials: https://twitter.com/0xMantle
Jordi Alexander Socials: https://twitter.com/gametheorizing𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵…
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Where Frax Fits In The Modular Thesis
6 mei 2024 · 52 min
The modular thesis is growing week by week. Lees meer
We are seeing the rise of new L2s and appchains happening at a rapidly accelerating pace now.
Our second podcast as a team featuring Sam Kazemian from Frax Finance is here.
Frax started its journey as a decentralized stablecoin and has expanded significantly to include a broader range of DeFi tools and assets, making their modular L2 more appealing from our POV.
The backbone of Frax's operations is its modular L2, Fraxtal, which brings together protocols, liquidity, and monetary policies within one chain. Fraxtal enhances efficiency and transparency, setting a foundation for Frax to function akin to a decentralized central bank. Within this framework, Fraxtal uses an incentivization system known as Fraxtal points, which rewards popular contracts based on their usage and gas consumption.
This creates a reputation-based system that promotes sustainable development within the Frax ecosystem.
Additionally, we discussed how Sam plans to encourage the development of L3s atop of Fraxtal. This means dApps can launch their own chains while benefiting from the underlying Frax protocol and liquidity. This is part of Frax's fractal scaling vision, where L2 and L3s can generate revenue and contribute back to the overall ecosystem.
Explore how Fraxtal, powered by Frax, is morphing into its broader vision of becoming a decentralized central bank in todays episode!
Hope you enjoy.
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Frax Finance Website: https://frax.finance/
Frax Finance Socials: https://twitter.com/fraxfinance𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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How Celestine Sloths Became The Modular Community Mascot
3 mei 2024 · 44 min
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Did you know that Celestia was originally called LazyLedger? The idea behind this laziness stems from Celestia's minimalistic properties. By solely focusing on data availability with minimal smart contracts & execution, Celestia is able to provide cheap and secure data verification while outsourcing execution to other chains.
In today's episode, we set out to understand the origin story of not only Celestia, but also the now iconic Celestine Sloth Society NFT collection. The success and significance of the Celestine Sloths Society has came at a perfect time for the modular community.
We were joined by Zaki Manian, and Steven (sk) from the Celestine Sloths team and Nick White from Celestia to discuss the impact and origin story of the Sloths.
The Celestine Sloths Society was introduced with a fair launch exclusively for Celestia stakers, requiring one TIA token to mint each NFT, with a limit of one per wallet. They quickly soared in value and even surpassed Bad Kids in floor price, the biggest collection in Cosmos.
We discussed this rise of popularlity as well as the choice of the sloth as a thematic symbol for the modular community which creatively reflects the concept of the 'lazy ledger'—a playful nod to Celestia. We went on to unveil potential future developments, like modular sloth bodies and the expansion of the sloth IP.Many of the community members are excited for the potential modular project token distributions to Sloths (like Lava, Mitosis, Initia, Movement and others), we also touched on whether there could be a Sloth token in the future.
We enjoyed this conversation and hope you do as well!
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Celestia Website: https://celestia.org/
Celestia Socials: / celestiaorg
CelestineSloths Socials: / celestinesloths𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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Horizontal vs Vertical Scaling Debate
1 mei 2024 · 48 min
Horizontal or vertical scaling...which way, western man?
In today's discussion, we're taking a closer look at Nil's strategic approach to blockchain scalability, focusing on the integration of horizontal scaling for Ethereum. We discuss the core idea behind Ethereum as the ultimate arbiter of truth for L2s, ensuring that any layer that claims to be an L2 can verify its activities through Ethereum's data availability and settlement guarantees.
We also discuss the state fragmentation situation at hand—an inherent issue when new chains are created, which leads to a lack of a unified global state. This fragmentation complicates interactions between different rollups within the Ethereum ecosystem.
To address this, we take a look at horizontal and vertical scaling...
Horizontal scaling involves adding more machines to distribute workload and enhance performance without significant hardware trade-offs, while vertical scaling focuses on enhancing the capabilities of a single machine, which can lead to higher costs and potential centralization.
We further went on to explore the nuances of modular versus monolithic architectures, Avi clarifies that neither inherently offers superior scalability. Instead, true scalability depends on effectively managing and expanding computational resources across the network.
Join us for a technical discussion around zkSharding, horizontal scaling, and the key differences in the modular vs. monolithic scaling approaches.
The Rollup Lees meernil Foundation Website: https://nil.foundation/
nil Foundation Socials: https://twitter.com/nil_foundation𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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Where Sovereign Labs Fits In The Modular Thesis
29 april 2024 · 1 uur 7 min
The general idea and thesis we share is that we will see 1000s of appchains and the frameworks which are building for that future are in a good spot. In addition, we also believe there will be a ton of zkVMs (as introduced to us by Cem during this video) which will power rollups going forward.
This is also part of our "we don't need any more traditional EVM, general purpose L2s" thesis.
In today's video, were taking a closer look at Sovereign Labs. Sovereign is a project we've heard quite a bit about in the modular stack, which is builiding an SDK to launch zkRollups. Our discussion with the founder Cem Ozer, unpacks more of our thesis above.
We started talking about Cem's reasoning behind the name "Sovereign Labs" and touched on the noisy neighbor problem which sovereign rollups solve. We went on to discuss how the Sovereign SDK utilizes Rust-based machines, is partnered with leading zkVM providers like Risc Zero & Succinct, interoperability baked in for every rollup within Sovereign, and how all of this leads to providing a great user experience.
While we are particularly excited about Sovereign SDK, we managed to push back on some of the design choices such as not having their own underlying chain for distribution, and why a builder would choose the Sovereign SDK over a different stack like Cosmos SDK, OP stack, ZK stack and others.
We also found a quick moment at the end to ask Cem about their plans to decentralize Sovereign Labs, and what that future may look like.
Whether you are a developer, a power user, or a modularity enthusiast, learning about the Sovereign SDK and how builders are thinking about laying the ground work for the modular expansion is a worthy endeavor!
Hope you enjoy.
The Rollup Lees meerSovereign Website: https://www.sovereign.xyz/
Sovereign Socials: https://twitter.com/sovereign_labs𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶…
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Is Ethereum alignment a meme?
26 april 2024 · 37 min
At what point does ideological alignment affect your technological decision making?
The essence of Ethereum alignment involves a commitment to its core principles — decentralization, security, permissionlessness, and scalability. This deep-rooted alignment goes beyond the technical, touching on Ethereum’s broader moral compass, which aims to question and redefine the societal and economic impacts of crypto.
As we all know, Vitalik isn't exactly a big fan of memecoins.
In today's discussion, we sat down with the community lead of Taiko, an emerging zk-based L2 to discuss alignment with Ethereum.
For Taiko, alignment with Ethereum is more than strategic; it's a commitment to shared growth. By allocating 1% of their tokens to Ethereum’s development, they reinforce their support and ensure mutual advancement.
This allows them to attract top-tier developer talent, it’s about building resilient, censorship-resistant systems that reflect the vision of early blockchain pioneers while focusing on public goods over private gains.
In this piece, we unpack how Taiko’s integration into the Ethereum ecosystem not only supports Ethereum but also sets a precedent for all rollups.
Dive into this higher level conversation for a philosophical approach to scaling Ethereum together!
The Rollup Lees meerTaiko Website: https://taiko.xyz/
Taiko Socials: https://twitter.com/taikoxyz𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
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We Need To Talk About Fraud Proofs with Gabriel Coutinho of Cartesi
25 april 2024 · 1 uur 47 min
Rollups as we know them today are more centralized than we'd like. Lees meer
Basically, rollups operate using a secure multi-sig and centralized sequencer for transaction batching and ordering.
This isn't good for a multitude of reasons, notably censorship resistance. We are trying to build resilient, long-lasting systems in crypto and to do this effectively these systems need to be sufficiently decentralized...or else we are at risk of nation-state intervention.
Today, we focus on the critical topic of fraud proofs within rollups. Verifiability is integral to enhancing the scalability and security of Ethereum-based solutions without sacrificing the decentralized foundation which Vitalik has created for us.
Security varies significantly across different rollups currently. Some are based on a permissioned set of validators, while others are advancing with permissionless algorithms that resist both delay and civil attacks.
We are here to analyze these variations, particularly looking at how recent innovations, like the Kineti algorithm, utilize computation hashes and structured tournament brackets to meet these challenges head-on. The goal of our discussion is to provide a comprehensive understanding of how fraud proofs work, why they matter, and what role they play in building a more censorship resistant Ethereum.
By the end of this technical session, you'll have a clearer understanding of the complexities involved in fraud proof design and where we are headed as a community to make the modular future a verifiable one.
Join us as we delve into the technical depths of rollup designs.
Cartesi Website: https://cartesi.io/
Cartesi Socials: https://twitter.com/cartesiproject
Gabriel Coutinho Socials: https://twitter.com/GCdePaula_
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
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Safe Token Launch, EIP 3074, and Technical Updates with co-founder Richard Meissner
23 april 2024 · 53 min
Today marks a very special day for many DeFi founders, builders, and power users. Lees meer
Today is the launch of the transferable $SAFE token, for the safe multisig users on Ethereum mainnet. The tokens had to be claimed many months, if not years, ago. Safe has been pioneering the idea of smart accounts and has made many advancements in account abstraction technology. Our discussion with co-founder, Richard Meissner, aims to provide clarity on how these developments could influence the Ethereum ecosystem going forward.
Account abstraction is a crucial innovation that introduces greater flexibility in how accounts are defined and managed on the Ethereum blockchain. With initiatives like ERC-4337 and EIP-3074, Safe is exploring different approaches to the current UX situation.
We discussed how these technical enhancements such as session keys, automatic transfers, and adjustable transaction limits, aim to make blockchain use more user-friendly and secure. The overarching goal is to achieve native account abstraction at the protocol level, which could significantly improve how users interface with dApps.
However, we went into detail about a sticky situation revoling the diverging paths of ERC-3074, which emphasizes empowering externally owned accounts, and ERC-4337, which focuses on smart accounts, and illustrated the pro's and con's of each approach.
Central to these efforts is the $SAFE token, which has become transferable today and plays a vital role in governance and incentivization within the Safe ecosystem.
As we delve into these topics, we aim to equip you with a thorough understanding of how Safe's latest updates not only affect their platform but also have the potential to impact broader crypto UX. Whether you are deeply involved in building DeFi applications or an everyday user like us, these developments from Safe are crucial for anyone interested in where we go from here.
The Rollup
Safe Website: https://safe.global/
Safe Socials: https://twitter.com/safe…
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Celestine Sloths, Alloyed Assets, And Hyperbitcoinization with Sunny Aggarwal
22 april 2024 · 1 uur 1 min
The evolution of the modular thesis doesn't go without saying Osmosis and the Cosmos ecosystem. Lees meer
Being the hub of liquidity for the modular ecosystem assets (TIA, DYM, OSMO), Osmosis plays an important role for the space.
In today's interview with co-founder Sunny Aggarwal, we discuss the recent rise of Celestine Sloths and how features like the Skip API allows for seamless cross-chain transactions, enabling users to mint NFTs on Stargaze by swapping currencies through Osmosis in a single transaction.
This is a mega leap forward in interchain fluidity and for all of those who minted Sloths, you understand.
We then went onto discuss the Mad Scientists collection which has recently gained traction, (Sunny's PFP) and how the tech behind this collection works.We discussed Backbone Labs and the plan to distribute a significant portion of protocol revenues to holders, and whether or not this "real yield" is bullish.
Shortly after, we discussed the proposal from Osmosis about alloyed assets.
Osmosis has introduced the concept of alloyed assets, which aggregrate various tokens into a unified asset pool to manage liquidity more effectively. This approach not only mitigates risks associated with individual bridge failures but also streamlines asset management across chains, thus simplifying the user experience significantly.
But, is it really the best solution? We asked Sunny about the risks associated, some edge cases, and really dug into some areas where we feel they may have fell short...
Sunny stepped up to the plate and addressed our concerns as always.
Finally, towards the end of the podcast we talked about the hyperbitcoinization of Cosmos with players like Babylon and others. Sunny is pretty excited about this and we talked in-depth about this new phenomenon of bringing BTC to Cosmos and other ecosystems.
We really enjoyed this conversation and hope you will too!
The Rollup
Osmosis Website: https://osmosis.zone/
Osmosis Socials: https://twitter.com/osmosi…
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The Decentralized AI War with Talus Network
17 april 2024 · 43 min
The convergence of AI and crypto is particularly interesting to us. We've been doing research and are really coming around to the idea that AI might be the major unlock for crypto, especially for onchain usage. Lees meer
If you're completely new to the convergence of AI and crypto, this is for you.
In today's discussion, we discuss the "AI War" of compute and GPUs. The majority of the current GPU usage is being held in the hands of large big tech companies, we're not fans of this model and its not the ideal path for scaling AI going forward.
We also discuss how blockchain will decentralize AI, promoting an open marketplace where resources such as computing power, data, and models are accessible to everyone. Then, we go onto discuss how smart agents are being built to execute operations onchain autonomously.
Finally, we explore how Mike and Ben, the founders of Talus, are working to integrate AI into the current blockchain landscape.
The future is in our hands.
The Rollup
Talus Network Socials: https://twitter.com/TalusNetwork
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 …
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How Lava Network Aims to Solve The RPC Problem For 10,000 Rollups
15 april 2024 · 55 min
The spotlight on modularity continues. Lees meer
After Modular March, its been obvious to us to stay heads down building with a strong focus on modular blockchains and the projects leading the way for this sector. Today, we do a technical deep dive into the architecture of Lava Network's RPC network.
Basically the issue at hand is its tough to scale RPCs in a secure manner, across dozens of chains.
We spoke to Lava Network's CTO, Gil Binder, about their chain-agnostic framework and tried to figure out where the real edge lies. Can Lava really scale to thousands of chains? Is the incentive system robust?
By introducing economic incentives for RPC providers and using decentralized enforcement mechanisms like slashing and "jailing" Gil explained that Lava ensures that data remains both accessible and reliable. We dug deep into the technicals to understand what makes up an RPC and why its very important for you to understand what is happening 'underneath' all your onchain transactions.
We learned, and we enjoyed. Hope you do as well!
00:00 Introduction
07:30 The Crucial Role of RPC in Blockchain Access
26:26 Key Features of Lava Network
35:41 Decentralized Access to Providers
45:13 Looking Ahead
Lava Network Website: https://www.lavanet.xyz/
Lava Network Socials: / lavanetxyz
𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:
Website: https://therollup.co/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.
Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast
Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco
Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup
Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy
Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh
The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl
𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 …
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Is the future of AI and crypto dystopian?
12 april 2024 · 41 min
The future of AI is a divergent path. Lees meer
On one hand, we have the use of AI for the benefit of all and advancement of our society.
On the other, there’s a world where the power dynamic between humans and computers becomes imbalanced and we are as a race are put in an dystopian situation.
We believe that the intersection of crypto and AI will be pivotal in not only the decentralization of AI, but also the advancement of crypto adoption. We believe that AI is the unique use case needed to expedite blockchain usage via machine-to-machine economies. AI agents are envisioned to execute trades, manage assets, and facilitate all kinds of economic functions without human intervention.
The ethical and practical challenges of AI in crypto was something we discussed in depth. This is crucial for maintaining alignment between AI actions and human intentions, mitigating the risk of AI agents acting with ulterior motives. The blockchain's immutable record-keeping plays a pivotal role in ensuring that every action taken by an AI agent can be audited and verified, providing a layer of security and trust that is indispensable in today’s digital age.
Lastly, we discussed the philosophical implications of AI advancement and the future role of humans in an economy increasingly driven by intelligent agents. As AI becomes more capable, its integration with crypto could significantly alter how economic activities are managed and who controls these processes.
This conversation was really intriguing. Hope you enjoy.
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Angel Investing, Incentive Designs, And Modularity with Ajit Tripathi
10 april 2024 · 41 min
As we wrap up Modular March, we had one of the early believers in modularity and early angel investor in prominent projects (EigenDA, Avail, and others) to discuss the state of the crypto markets. Lees meer
We discussed the nuanced interplay between technology, ethics, and market dynamics that are at play in crypto now. We discussed the desire for real world applications and why tokens play an interesting part in the way builders create products in crypto. Ajit is a particularly funny personality in crypto, known for his realism and ability to make harsh truths into satirical tweets.
We enjoyed this episode as a step out of the technical weeds and into the philosophical and realistic end of the crypto incentive systems.
You will too!
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Modular March EP 19: The Power of Fuel Network's Rollup OS
8 april 2024 · 47 min
Another episode with an Ethereum scaling OG, Nick Dodson, who pioneered the original idea of optimistic rollups before they were the norm. Nick is actually also working on an innovative concept called fast finality optimistic rollups, which we are going to line up another episode for. Lees meer
The team behind Fuel has been working tirelessly for several years to bring their vision to life, and we getting very close to mainnet.
In this presentation, we explore the “Rollup OS” of Fuel, powered by the Fuel Virtual Machine (FuelVM), which is notable for its integration of the UTXO model extended for sophisticated transactions including smart contracts. We discussed this in-depth, seeing as the UTXO model has gotten a bit of a bad rap (shoutout Cardano).
The Fuel VM also utilizes a hybrid proving model, combining the strengths of optimistic rollups and zk proofs to ensure the integrity and efficiency of transactions.
We went onto discuss the "rollup trilemma" and the ways in which Nick is striving to achieve optimal performance, sustainability, and interoperability without compromising on any single front. We pushed back on some of the design choices around Fuel’s customized programming language, Sway, and why this is the choice they made.
Nick gave us a quick demo of a very cool compiler tool as well, some sweet alpha there.
Get ready for the modular expansion, its happening quickly.
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Modular March EP 18: Unveiling Blobstream and Celestia's Node Architecture
5 april 2024 · 56 min
The core innovation of data availability in the modular landscape revolves around minimalism. Lees meer
Due to the minimal smart contract execution capabilities of altDA chains, they can focus solely on providing a specialized service of data verification & publishing. In addition to the design of minimal blocks, these chains are able to perform a unique task of Data Availability Sampling (DAS) which is a revolutionary innovation for blockchain scaling.
In today’s presentation, we sit down with John Adler, an Ethereum OG and creator of optimistic rollups. We take a deep, technical dive through the various node types (full, light, and partial) in Celestia’s architecture.
After that, we took a second to digest and summarize and then dove right into Blobstream, another cornerstone of Celestia's approach. Blobstream acts as a one-way relay for data attestations between Celestia and other blockchains and recently has been deployed in testnet on Base and Arbitrum Orbit.
We also touched on the development of Succint’s Blobstream X, and their zk version of Blobstream.
Finally, we asked some rapid fire questions about Celestia’s design and John’s perspectives on the modular space at large.
Enjoy!
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Modular March EP 17: Modularity is a Meme with Scroll
4 april 2024 · 46 min
Not sure we need to write too much about this one! Lees meer
We mostly laughed and had a good time while understanding the definitions of some key terms in the space. Togruhl, one of the early Ethereum contributors and Scroll co-founders, gave us a presentation on his mental models for modular and monolithic design structures.
What was particularly interesting was the idea which Togruhl posed about the convergence of these two ideologies into nearly the same place.
Monolithic chains will modularize. Modular chains will enshrine more functionality.
We also asked if he thinks Celestia is more of a competitor for Ethereum than Solana. Togruhl then posed the question “Is Celestia really modular?” which was kind of mindblowing.
Big definitions guy over here.
We think you’ll really enjoy this one and we had a bunch of great takeaways which were driven by out of the box thinking.
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Wormhole Token Launch: Everything You Need to Know
3 april 2024 · 45 min
Finally! Wormhole $W token is here. After a three year journey of shipping filled of ups and downs, Wormhole has announced they are taking the path to decentralizing their community. Lees meer
If you've been navigating the onchain world, you've probably heard the buzz about Wormhole's token, $W (and hopefully qualified for the airdrop).
Wormhole has long stood as a critical infrastructure in the blockchain world, offering a bridge that seamlessly connects over 30 chains across five different runtimes. At its core, $W aims to fortify the bridge between diverse blockchain ecosystems, rewarding those who've journeyed with Wormhole over the years.
We discussed the reward distribution mechanism of the historic users of Wormhole and specific NFT communities like MadLads. We also talked about the emphasis on cross-chain governance and the general tokenomics of $W. From exploring incentives for governance participants to contemplating novel uses within the Wormhole ecosystem, Robinson and the Wormhole team have their sights set on targets for this year.
Congrats to everyone who qualified, and hope you enjoy this!
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Modular March EP 16: Where Eclipse & SVM Fit in The Modular Thesis
2 april 2024 · 43 min
Typically, you wouldn’t think of Solana having a strong footing in the modular thesis. After all, the design choices they have elegantly pioneered (credit where credit is due) revolve around scaling a single state machine. Lees meer
This simply won’t scale to billions of users, and they will need to modularize.
However, the extremely performant and extensible Solana Virtual Machine (SVM) is an effective tool to build an extremely fast rollup atop Ethereum. We can all be friends here, right?
Welcome to today's Modular March presentation, where we take our first dive as a team into the fascinating world of Eclipse and its modular approach to blockchain scalability and security. For those who've been around the block(chain), you know the drill: scalability often comes at the cost of complexity or security.
Yet, Eclipse offers high throughput without the mess of state fragmentation via their flexible architecture. They're mixing the best of both worlds - Solana's speed and Ethereum's security, with a splash of Celestia for that decentralized data layer cherry on top.
We enjoyed this presentation with Sydney while also trying to understand where the tradeoffs or weaknesses in this design lie. We found some edge-cases but what was most interesting was the application possibilities as a result of using the SVM.
We had some solid takeaways, you’ll enjoy this.
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Modular March EP 15: Where Espresso Fits In The Modular Thesis
1 april 2024 · 48 min
We really enjoyed this presentation. Lees meer
While we’ve had multiple shared sequencers talks on Modular March, each one has been far different. Today’s deep dive is around the game theory and incentive designs behind creating a rollup ecosystem which feels completely seamless and interoperable.
At its core, Espresso leverages a two part system to enforce how transactions are ordered and finalized across rollups via its sequencer. This system mirrors Ethereum's, but with a twist, aiming to streamline interactions between different rollups and thereby improve user experience significantly.
We discussed the based sequencing approach, their auction & lottery mechanism, and where Espresso fits in the broader modular thesis.
While we are bullish on Espresso (and Ellie is amazing), we didn’t let their vision go untouched so to speak. There were areas where we pushed back around the incentive designs and whether or not this would actually work in practice. We also tried to understand why potentially making things more complex is really the solution for scaling the modular L2 landscape. Also, if Espresso is another chain with trust assumptions, what tradeoffs does that bring for rollup operators?
Finally the big question…Will rollup operators really want to use Espresso if it could cause a big revenue reduction? Ellie flipped that narrative on its head, ever so graciously. She helped us understand how Espresso works under the hood and answered our questions.
We were impressed and left feeling extremely optimistic on shared sequencing.
Happy April Fools Day (no jokes here, yet!) & let’s have a great week!
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The Avail Unification Vision Unpacked
31 maart 2024 · 14 min
We’ve heard of the fragmentation problem many times in Modular March, and we’ve came to learn of a variety of solutions like shared sequencing, intents-based interop, and more. Lees meer
Today, in less than 10 minutes, we hear the vision from Avail’s head of product Dan Mills live from Modular Day in ETHDenver.
Created in 2020 as part of Polygon, Avail emerged in response to Ethereum's shift toward a rollup-centric architecture, identifying a critical need for enhanced data availability in support of data-hungry rollups. Avail's foundational product, AvailDA, addresses this need by providing scalable, raw block space without necessitating base layer execution features (aka a specialized, modular blockchain).
Through the use of validity proofs and KZG polynomial commitments, AvailDA ensures that light clients can trust the data's integrity through efficient random sampling.
However, Dan thought past first order consequences and like many of us now realize, there will be thousands of chains. To counter this, Avail is introducing Nexus, a unification layer based on aggregating proofs from various chains to guarantee the accuracy of execution and state transitions.
We also dive into Avail Fusion, the eventual security layer and third part of the Avail Trinity.
Stay up to speed on the biggest upcoming modular project launch, Avail, in less than 10 minutes with Andy.