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  1. 19 Years and 14 Exits in Multifamily | Eric Strom and Eric Nordstrom

    2 november 2026 · 35 min

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    Most multifamily investors are sitting on the sidelines right now wondering if the market is broken. Eric Strom and Eric Nordstrom think the opposite and they have 19 years of data to back it up. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with the co founders of Iron Ridge Capital, two of the most experienced multifamily syndicators in the country, who paused acquisitions entirely from January 2022 to May 2025 because nothing made sense and are now actively buying again at significant discounts. They break down exactly what the multifamily market looks like right now from the inside, why disciplined operators who stayed patient are getting rewarded, and why the next 24 to 36 months could be one of the best buying windows in multifamily history. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    — Why Iron Ridge Capital stopped buying for three years and what finally brought them back.

    — How to find and win distressed multifamily deals by staying disciplined on price and letting deals come back to you.

    —14 exits, 24.6% average annual return what the numbers actually look like over 19 years.

    — Why operations and weathering storms are the two keys to long-term multifamily success.

    — Where rents are heading in the next 12 to 24 months and why the B and C class space is the last to recover.

    — Why the next 24 to 36 months could bring a massive wave of capital back into multifamily real estate.

    ️ Key Moments

    00:00 — Two guests, one mission, winning in multifamily

    00:28 — Introducing Eric Strom & Eric Nordstrom

    00:52 — New acquisitio, how they got it at a discount

    01:57 — 19 years syndicating, how it started

    02:52 — Why they stopped buying from 2022 to 2025

    03:53 — Underwriting everything, buying nothing

    06:00 — Returns 7% to 10% cash on cash, 20%+ total

    07:00 — 14 exits, 24.6% average annual return

    10:00 — Two keys to multifamily success

    15:00 — Finding distressed deals, why round two wins

    20:00 — What the multifamily market looks like right now

    25:00 — B and C cla…

  2. $65 Million in Rentals and Not One Mortgage | Pat Grace

    13 oktober 2026 · 47 min

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    Most real estate investors are building a portfolio the same way buy, rehab, refinance, and watch their equity get trapped behind the walls of a mortgage while they pay heavy front-loaded interest for years. Lees meer

    Pat Grace built $65 million in rental properties across 200 single family assets doing it completely differently and he does not have a single traditional mortgage. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Pat Grace, who discovered a banking strategy used widely in Australia that is almost completely unknown in the United States, and used it to build one of the most liquid and flexible real estate portfolios you will find anywhere. Pat breaks down his BERLOCQ method a line of credit-based approach to real estate financing using simple interest instead of compounding amortized debt and why once you see it, you cannot unsee it.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED

    Why traditional mortgages trap your equity and cost you far more than most investors realize

    The BERLOCQ method explained using lines of credit instead of mortgages to build a rental portfolio

    How Pat built $65 million in real estate with $35 million in available line of credit and zero traditional debt

    Why simple interest lines of credit beat compounding amortized mortgages every single time

    How one investor saved over $1 million in interest just by switching to this strategy

    How to get started with lines of credit from your first $750K line to scaling across all 50 states

    ️ TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 — $65 million in rentals with zero mortgages the cold open

    00:30 — Introducing Pat Grace

    00:52 — What M.O.R.E. stands for and why this episode matters

    01:43 — How Pat learned this strategy in Australia

    02:07 — Why he left traditional mortgages behind

    03:10 — How he started just like everyone else

    04:30 — The problem with the BRRRR method most people miss

    06:00 — Explained lines of credit vs amortized mortgage debt

    12:00 — $35 million in available line of credit how Pat structures it

    18:00 …

  3. He Lost Everything in 2008 and Built It All Back | Chris Prefontaine

    6 oktober 2026 · 28 min

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    Most real estate investors think you need a bank, perfect credit, or a pile of cash to do deals. Chris Prefontaine has been proving that wrong for decades and he survived the 2008 crash to build one of the fastest growing real estate companies in America three years running on the Inc. 5000 list. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Chris Prefontaine, founder of Smart Real Estate Coach and author of the 3 Paydays book series, to break down exactly how creative financing and terms deals work in today's market, why subject-to and owner financing are some of the most powerful tools available to any investor right now, and why the most dangerous thing you can do is chase shiny objects instead of going deep on one strategy. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Creative financing explained, how to buy real estate without banks, cash, or credit

    Subject-to and owner financing deals, how they work and why sellers say yes

    The 3 Paydays model, how to get paid three times on every single deal

    Why Chris survived the 2008 crash when most investors did not and what he learned

    Shiny object syndrome: why chasing two rabbits means catching zero

    Why you should follow someone who has been through real market cycles, not just a bull run

    ️Key Moments

    00:00 — Foreclosure, the repo man, and starting over

    00:52 — Introducing Chris Prefontaine

    01:10 — Three years on the Inc. 5000 list

    01:43 — 82 active markets — real deals, not theory

    02:15 — The guru epidemic

    03:45 — How the coaching community works

    04:03 — Subject-to, owner financing & lease options explained

    07:00 — The 3 Paydays model

    12:00 — How to get sellers to say yes to creative terms

    18:00 — Creative financing in today's market

    22:00 — Shiny object syndrome & Chris's six laws

    23:43 — Chase two rabbits, catch zero

    24:22 — Follow someone who has the life you want

    25:00 — What success actually looks like after the scars

    26:06 — Free workshop & how to get the 3 Paydays book

    27:25 — Where to find Chr…

  4. How to Reinvent Yourself When the Market Shifts | Brandon 'Rockstar' Rooks

    29 september 2026 · 42 min

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    Most real estate investors know how to build in a bull market. Very few know what to do when that market turns against them. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits back down with Brandon Rockstar Rooks a capital raiser who spent a decade building a $100 million land entitlement business in the southeast, working with some of the biggest national builders in the country and who hit major headwinds when the market shifted in late 2024. Brandon shares exactly what happened, why he is not embarrassed to say he is on his third reinvention, how he is pivoting into private lending, note buying, and distressed debt, and why the most dangerous thing an investor can do right now is stay loyal to a business model that has stopped working. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    How Brandon built a $100 million land entitlement business working with the biggest national builders

    Why national builders don't want land on their balance sheets and how that creates opportunity

    What went wrong in Q4 2024 and why the land entitlement market shifted dramatically

    How Brandon is pivoting into private lending, note buying, and distressed debt

    Why it is okay to start over at 40 and why staying loyal to a broken business model is not

    The mindset of reinvention how to know when to pivot and how to do it without losing everything

    ️ Key Moments

    00:01 — Introduction: Brandon Rockstar Rooks returns to The M.O.R.E. Show

    00:32 — The Boardroom Mastermind what it is and how to get access

    01:11 — Lending is getting weird what Justin is seeing in the market right now

    01:31 — A decade of land entitlement capital raising how it started

    02:13 — Why 15% annualized returns became the minimum standard

    02:49 — How the land entitlement model works ground, permits, sell to builders

    03:16 — Why national builders don't want land on their balance sheets

    04:01 — First deal: $3M parcel in Charlotte NC 99 townhomes

    07:00 — How the $100M raise was built and what drove it

    15:00 — What changed in Q4 202…

  5. Your Title Company Is Killing Your Deals, Here's Why | Ash Selle

    23 september 2026 · 31 min

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    Most real estate investors have had a deal fall apart at the title company not because the deal was bad, but because the title company did not know how to handle it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Ash Selle, founder of Phoenix Closing and a 25-year title and escrow veteran who has handled tens of thousands of transactions across 7 states. Ash Selle breaks down exactly how investor-friendly title works, how to close hairy and complicated deals that other title companies won't touch, what really happens inside a title company when your deal goes sideways, and why subject-to deals, double closings, probate, and foreclosure transactions require a specialist not a generalist. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    What an investor-friendly title company actually does differently from a traditional one

    How to close subject-to deals, double closings, probate, and foreclosure transactions correctly

    Why buyers are backing out last minute right now — and what title companies are seeing on the front lines

    The biggest mistakes real estate investors make when working with title and escrow

    How to find and work with a title company that will fight to get your deal across the finish line

    What sellers in distress foreclosure, divorce, death, prison, need from a title team

    ️ Key Moments

    00:01 — Introduction: Ash Selle founder of Phoenix Closing

    00:23 — 25 years in title and escrow tens of thousands of transactions

    00:45 — Phoenix Closing explained investor-friendly title in 7 states

    01:00 — How to reach Ash Selle: phoenixclosing.co and (612) 248-6108

    01:45 — What is happening in the real estate market right now from the title side

    02:08 — Why buyers are backing out last minute and getting cold feet

    03:47 — Distressed sellers: foreclosure, divorce, prison, probate, and death

    04:09 — Interest rates why nobody on the front lines is complaining about them

    07:00 — Subject-to deals explained and how to close them correctly

    12:00 — Double closings what the…

  6. Why There Are No Great Markets, Only Great Timing | Neal Bawa

    18 september 2026 · 39 min

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    Most real estate educators tell you to master one market and stay in it forever. Neil Bawa thinks that is wrong and lazy. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily, a former data scientist and tech company founder who has built a portfolio of over 4,000 apartment units across 7 states with $400 million under management and 1,150 active investors. Neil breaks down why his data-driven approach to real estate outperforms gut instinct every single time, how he sold out a 237-unit apartment syndication in four hours, why he learned never to invest in Chicago again, and how he is now using fully automated AI underwriting to evaluate deals faster than any human team can. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why there are no great markets in America only great markets at certain points in time

    How Neil sold out a 237-unit apartment syndication in four hours using a nurtured email list

    The tax strategy that forced Neil into syndication and how it built his entire empire

    Why Neal left single family behind and went all-in on multifamily apartments

    How Neal's team uses fully automated AI underwriting to analyze deals at scale

    The current distressed deal opportunity in Dallas and why banks are offering concessions to buyers right now

    ️ Key Moments

    00:01 — Introduction: Neal, the Mad Scientist of Multifamily

    00:30 — $400 million under management 4,000 units across 7 states

    00:53 — Portfolio breakdown: Utah, Idaho, Phoenix, Texas, Atlanta

    01:30 — Why Neal jumps markets, there are no permanently great markets

    01:54 — Neal's background: data scientist, tech company founder, recovering technologist

    02:11 — How real estate reduced Neil's taxes during his tech company years

    02:31 — 2013: selling the company, massive taxable event, and discovering syndication

    03:21 — How a nurtured email list sold out 237 units in four hours

    04:16 — 1,150 investors and $350 million in equity raised

    04:41 — Taking investors on…

  7. How to Build Authority That Makes Business Come to You | Dana Flanagan

    11 september 2026 · 48 min

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    Most business owners and real estate professionals are grinding for clients, chasing leads, and wondering why deals don't come to them when the real problem is that nobody knows who they are or what they stand for. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Dana Flanagan, known as the Authority Architect, a 25-year real estate veteran with hundreds of millions in commercial and global real estate who recruited 70 agents in 90 days, not by cold calling, but by building the kind of authority and credibility that makes people come to you. Dana breaks down her CIA framework, Credibility, Influence, and Authority, how she used social media before most people knew what it was to build an attraction-based business, and why going viral means nothing if you are not visible to the right people. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    The CIA framework: Credibility, Influence, and Authority and how to build all three simultaneously

    Why visibility to the right people beats going viral every single time

    How Dana recruited 70 agents in 90 days using an attraction-based model not cold outreach

    Why personal branding beats company branding for real estate professionals and business owners

    How CEOs and founders can use strategic positioning to get in front of investors and capital

    The biggest mistake people make when building a personal brand and why most quit too early

    ️ Key Moments

    00:00 — How to build authority credibility and influence in business

    00:45 — Introduction: Dana Flanagan the Authority Architect

    01:16 — Dana's 25-year journey: from residential agent to executive advisor

    02:00 — How posting on early Facebook built her first attraction-based business

    04:13 — CIA explained: Credibility Influence and Authority framework

    07:00 — How Dana recruited 70 agents in 90 days without cold calling

    10:00 — Personal brand vs company brand what you should be building

    15:00 — Strategic positioning: how to get in the right rooms

    20:00 — How to build authority if you …

  8. Why This 27 Year Old Quit House Wholesaling to Make $2M Flipping Land | Caleb Milobsky

    8 september 2026 · 36 min

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    Most real estate investors are so focused on houses they have completely overlooked one of the simplest and most scalable paths to seven figures in this industry. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Caleb Milobsky, a 27-year-old land wholesaler who transitioned from flipping houses to flipping land and built a business doing over $2 million a year in the process. Caleb breaks down exactly why land has fewer variables than houses, how he sources deals across 15 states using SMS outreach, why his spreads are larger than anything he made wholesaling houses, and the exact system he uses to hit the same lists seven times until sellers respond. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why land wholesaling is simpler and more scalable than house wholesaling

    How Caleb built a $2 million a year business flipping land at 27 years old

    How to find and evaluate land deals using Land Insights heat map data

    Why Caleb sends SMS to a million land owners a month — and how the system works

    The seven touch frequency strategy that closed a $115K deal in 45 days

    How to do land deals remotely across 15 states without ever visiting the property

    ️ Key Moments:

    00:00 — Introduction: why he quit wholesaling houses

    00:43 — Why land has fewer variables than houses

    01:35 — Building a $2 million a year land business

    02:00 — How land wholesaling works for beginners

    02:50 — Land Insights software explained heat maps and county selection

    03:26 — SMS outreach at scale, a million texts a month

    06:00 — How to evaluate land deals and what to look for

    10:00 — Wetlands, floodplains, and due diligence for land

    15:00 — How Caleb sources deals across 15 states remotely

    20:00 — Pricing, spreads, and what land deals actually pay

    25:00 — The acquisition process from first contact to close

    31:10 — The seven touch frequency strategy, $115K deal example

    33:50 — Where to find Caleb Phillips and his free community

    Connect with Caleb Milobsky :

    YouTube: @Caleb_Flips_Land

    Instagram: @…

  9. From Homeless and on Drugs to Raising Over a Billion Dollars | John Fernando

    4 september 2026 · 1 uur 1 min

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    Most people in real estate have never heard of mineral rights investing and most people who have heard of John Fernando's story still don't believe it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with John Fernando, who went from homelessness, drug addiction, and couch surfing to raising over a billion dollars in capital through oil and gas mineral rights. John walks through the exact mindset shift that changed everything for him, how he discovered the mineral rights space when almost nobody else was in it, why mineral rights are one of the most overlooked and undervalued asset classes in all of real estate, and the single phrase delayed obedience is disobedience that he credits with turning his entire life around. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    John Fernando's full story from drug addiction and homelessness to raising billions in capital

    What mineral rights are, why they are separate from surface rights, and why most people never think about them

    How John built a business in a space where almost nobody else was operating

    Why oil and gas mineral rights represent a massive overlooked opportunity for real estate investors

    The mindset principle of delayed obedience that John learned at a Christian boot camp and applied to business

    How to find, evaluate, and acquire mineral rights deals across the country

    ️ TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — Delayed obedience is disobedience the story that made John a millionaire

    01:16 — Introduction: John Fernando's journey from the streets to billions raised

    02:00 — From drug addiction and homelessness to the turning point.

    03:10 — The Christian boot camp that changed everything.

    07:00 — Discovering mineral rights and why nobody else was in the space.

    15:00 — How mineral rights work and why they are separate from surface rights.

    25:00 — How to find and acquire mineral rights deals.

    35:00 — The oil and gas market right now and where the opportunity is.

    45:00 — Building a team and scaling a mineral rights operation.

    55:00 — Th…

  10. How to Protect Your Assets Before You Lose Everything | Hillel Presser

    23 juli 2026 · 53 min

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    There are over 100 million lawsuits filed every single year in the United States and you are seven times more likely to face a lawsuit than to get into a car accident. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Hillel Presser, asset protection attorney, six-time author, and advisor who has protected over $11 billion in assets for celebrities, athletes, and business owners across the country. Hillel breaks down the single most powerful wealth protection principle the ultra-wealthy use, own nothing and control everything and exactly how to set up LLCs, trusts, and protective entities so that one lawsuit never takes everything you have spent your life building. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why you are seven times more likely to face a lawsuit than get in a car accident and what to do about it

    Own nothing control everything the asset protection strategy the ultra-wealthy use.

    LLCs, limited partnerships, and trusts explained which one is right for your situation.

    How to title your assets into protective entities without losing access or control.

    What to do if you are starting a new business today to protect it from day one.

    Why your accountant and your tax strategist are not the same thing and why that gap is costing you

    ️ Key Moments

    00:00 — 100 million lawsuits a year, the stat that should scare every business owner

    00:35 — Introduction: Hillel Presser and $11 billion in assets protected

    01:17 — It's not what you make it's what you keep

    02:00 — What the ultra wealthy do to become uncollectable and judgment proof

    03:20 — Own nothing control everything explained

    04:10 — LLCs, limited partnerships, and trusts — how protective entities work

    10:00 — How to pull a HELOC when your home is inside a trust

    15:00 — Offshore strategies and advanced asset protection

    25:00 — Protecting assets from divorce — 50% chance you need this

    35:00 — What happens when a lawsuit hits and you are not protected

    40:00 — How celebrities and athletes set up from the…

  11. Your AI Agent Strategy Is Costing You Money | Bill Beck

    21 juli 2026 · 35 min

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    Most real estate investors know the fortune is in the follow-up but nobody on their team is actually getting deep enough into the pipeline to find it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Bill Beck, 15-year real estate veteran, wholesaler, and co-founder of Hey Rafi, an AI-powered follow-up tool built specifically for real estate investors. Bill breaks down how AI is transforming lead follow-up from a human bottleneck into a fully automated system that runs 24 hours a day, why most teams are only scratching the surface of their existing lead databases, and how investors are dramatically reducing their cost per contract by letting AI handle the long-term follow-up pipeline. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why the fortune is in the follow-up and why most teams never actually get there.

    How AI is replacing the long-term lead follow-up role in real estate investing

    Hey Rafi explained: what it does, how it works, and who it is built for

    How to reduce cost per contract using AI automation instead of adding headcount.

    Why handing your old leads to an AI system could be your biggest win right now.

    The difference between shotgun volume outreach and rifle precision and why AI does both.

    ️ TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 — Introduction: Bill Beck and the AI opportunity in real estate
    00:51 — Bill's 15-year journey from corporate world to wholesaling
    03:11 — Building Rise: a 16-person wholesaling operation
    04:02 — What led Bill to start leaning into AI
    07:00 — Hey Rafi explained: the AI follow-up tool for real estate investors
    15:00 — How AI handles long-term lead follow-up better than human teams
    20:00 — Cost per contract: what the data is showing right now
    25:00 — How to plug Hey Rafi into your existing lead database
    28:00 — Shotgun vs rifle: why volume and precision both win with AI
    32:00 — How to get started with Hey Rafi
    34:19 — Closing thoughts: AI is here and there are great resources

    Connect with Bill Beck:

    Website: www.heyrafi.com

    Instagram: @thebeckblue…

  12. Why Billion Dollar Solar Companies Collapsed and Who Is Winning Now | Hung Nguyen

    30 juni 2026 · 32 min

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    Billion dollar solar companies like Titan, SunPower, and SunNova collapsed almost overnight and most real estate investors and agents have no idea what that means for their deals. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Hung Nguyen, founder of Detach Reset Solar, who discovered one of the most overlooked niches in the entire real estate and home services space. Hung built a business around a single problem that nobody was solving, removing, storing, and reinstalling solar panels so roofing contractors could do their work and turned it into a blue ocean opportunity with a total addressable market covering millions of homes across the country. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why major solar companies like Titan, SunPower, and SunNova went completely bankrupt.

    The detach and reset solar niche explained — and why almost nobody knew it existed

    How Hung Nguyen discovered the opportunity from a roofing contractor who couldn't sell roofs.

    Why real estate investors and agents need to understand solar panels on every property they buy or sell.

    How insurance line items for detach and reset solar create a funded opportunity for homeowners.

    The blue ocean market, Hung was the only player for three years and what that meant for growth.

    ️ TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — The solar apocalypse: billion dollar companies that went bust

    00:43 — Introduction: Hung Nguyen and the solar opportunity

    01:49 — How Hung discovered the detach reset solar niche

    02:58 — Why roofing contractors could not sell roofs with solar panels

    03:19 — The insurance line item that funds detach reset solar work

    04:14 — How Detach Reset Solar became the company name and the business model

    07:00 — Why real estate investors need to think about solar on properties.

    15:00 — How agents and investors can use this as a value add.

    20:00 — The scale of the opportunity, 6% market share and growing.

    28:10 — Total addressable market and why this is a massive business.

    29:00 — Competition: from blue oce…

  13. Why The Wealthy Never Follow The 4% Rule | Zach Richards

    26 juni 2026 · 35 min

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    Most people have been told the same thing their entire life, put your money in a 401k, invest in the stock market, follow the 4% rule, and hope you don't outlive your money. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Zach Richards, co-founder of REI Capital and private lender to real estate investors, to break down why savvy investors are moving money out of volatile markets and into real estate-backed private lending, how hard money lenders are failing borrowers at the worst possible moment, and exactly what real estate investors need to qualify for and successfully use private money on their deals.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why private lending is one of the most overlooked investment strategies most people never hear about.

    How stock market volatility is driving investors toward consistent real estate-backed returns.

    Why hard money lenders are changing terms at the last minute and how private lenders are different.

    What real estate investors need to qualify for private money and how the process actually works.

    How to underwrite a flip deal and what private lenders are really looking for.

    The 4% rule debunked and why real estate-backed lending beats traditional retirement strategies.

    ️ TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — The 4% rule and why private lending is a better way

    00:30 — Introduction: Zach Richards, co-founder of REI Capital

    01:14 — How REI Capital started and evolved into a fund

    02:26 — Why stock market volatility is pushing investors to private lending

    03:41 — Access creates opportunity, Justin's mastermind insight

    04:09 — How private lending works on both the borrower and investor side

    07:00 — What makes a good private lending deal for borrowers

    15:00 — How to qualify for private money, documents, comps, and scope of work

    25:00 — Downside protection: what happens when rehab budgets go over

    32:00 — Where the real pain is in the market right now

    34:00 — Why single family flip slowdowns are a return to n…

  14. The Family Trust Strategy Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know | Aaron Chapman

    11 juni 2026 · 51 min

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    Most real estate investors are stuck choosing between flipping for income and holding for wealth but 30-year industry veteran Aaron Chapman says you don't have to choose. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Aaron Chapman, mortgage expert, real estate investor, and author, to break down how to run a flipping business and a holding portfolio simultaneously without coming out of pocket, how to use family trusts to protect and pass down real estate wealth across generations, and why the foundation you build your business on matters more than how fast you grow it. Lees meer

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    How to flip houses and hold assets at the same time using the right entity structure.

    Family trust strategy explained: grantor, trustee, and beneficiary roles.

    How Aaron structured his children's homes inside a trust to build generational wealth.

    Why growing too fast without a strong foundation will eventually collapse your business.

    The legacy mindset: ensuring every bloodline never wonders where they will live.

    How to use life insurance and compounding inside a trust to create unstoppable family wealth.

    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:00 — Aaron's daughter calls him landlord instead of dad — the trust conversation

    01:21 — Introduction: Aaron Chapman, 30-year real estate professional and author

    02:07 — Why building fast without a foundation is the most dangerous move in real estate

    03:48 — Aaron's background: in the game since 1997

    07:00 — Entity structure and financing: how to flip and hold simultaneously

    15:00 — Family trust breakdown: grantor, trustee, and beneficiary explained

    25:00 — How Aaron built homes for his children inside a trust

    35:00 — Legacy, faith, and centering a family around shared values

    47:00 — Using business enterprise structures for tax deductions and family benefit

    49:00 — Ensuring your bloodline never lacks for housing

    49:53 — Aaron's book: Redneck — available on Amazon

    Connect with Aaron Chapman:

    Book: Redneckonomics — https://www…

  15. The Bitcoin + Real Estate Hybrid That's Destroying REITs | Grant Cardone

    27 mei 2026 · 1 uur 13 min

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    In this episode, I sit down for the third time with the legendary Grant Cardone — real estate mogul, founder of Cardone Capital, and creator of the 10X movement — and this one is the most raw and strategic conversation we've ever had. Grant breaks down his brand-new Real Estate + Bitcoin hybrid fund model, explaining exactly why he's fusing institutional-quality multifamily properties with Bitcoin on the same balance sheet, and why REITs — despite managing hundreds of billions — simply cannot replicate what he's doing. We also get into the origin story of the 10X Growth Conference, why he's shutting it down and pivoting to a wealth management model to compete with Charles Schwab and Merrill Lynch, how his Cardone Foundation is giving inner-city kids access to entrepreneurial education, and why he believes most people should never flip homes. Grant also opens up about the personal and legal challenges that come with scaling at his level, how partnerships protect you, and what the coming "tidal wave" of distressed real estate will mean for investors who are positioned and patient. Lees meer

    GRANT CARDONE

    Grant Cardone is the CEO of Cardone Capital and Cardone Training Technologies, Inc., owning and operating over seven privately held companies. Cardone Capital is a private equity real estate firm managing a multifamily portfolio worth over $5 billion. Under his leadership, the firm has acquired a diversified portfolio comprising 14,600 multifamily units and 500,000 square feet of commercial office space across high-growth U.S. markets, raising more than $1.65 billion in equity from nearly 20,000 accredited and non-accredited investors, while distributing over $400 million in returns with zero investor principal losses. Grant is a New York Times bestselling author, international speaker, and is considered one of the top sales training and social media experts in the world, with over 15 million followers, fans, and connections across his platforms. He is also the founder of th…

  16. Did you know the Tax Code Is Designed To Make You Rich, If You Know How To Use It? | Karlton Dennis

    21 mei 2026 · 43 min

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    Most real estate investors are leaving massive tax savings on the table and they don't even know it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with tax strategist and real estate investor Karlton Dennis to break down how the tax code can legally reduce what you owe to near zero, why gas stations are one of the most overlooked investment vehicles for depreciation, and how cost segregation and bonus depreciation are the tools wealthy investors use that most people never hear about.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED:

    Why gas stations depreciate in 15 years vs 27.5 for residential, and what that means for your tax bill

    Cost segregation and bonus depreciation explained for real estate investors

    How to invest as a limited partner and earn passive income without operational risk

    The real estate professional status strategy and why it changes everything

    Entity structure, S-Corps, and how business owners can legally reduce taxes

    Estate planning: revocable vs irrevocable trusts and protecting wealth across generations

    Key Moments:

    00:00 — Why Carlton invested with Grant Cardone as a limited partner

    01:12 — Introduction: Karlton Dennis, tax strategist and real estate investor

    02:08 — What Carlton is investing in right now in 2026

    02:52 — Why gas stations are a powerful tax strategy

    03:10 — Cost segregation and bonus depreciation explained

    07:00 — Real estate professional status and passive income

    12:00 — S-Corps, entity structure, and tax reduction for business owners

    20:00 — How to use real estate to offset W-2 income

    30:00 — Estate planning: trusts, capital gains, and generational wealth

    40:45 — Karlton's book: The Art of Legal Tax Avoidance

    42:27 — How to connect with Karlton Dennis

    Connect with Karlton Dennis:

    Instagram: @Karltondennis

    Book: The Art of Legal Tax Avoidance, Volume 1 — available on Amazon

    About The M.O.R.E. Show:

    The M.O.R.E. Show is hosted by Justin Colby and is dedicated to helping real estate pr…

  17. The Secret Loan That Lets You Buy a Fixer-Upper With 3.5% Down — And Skip the Renovation Bill | Sal Rizzolo

    5 mei 2026 · 36 min

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    In this episode, I sat down with 10-year mortgage industry veteran Sal Rizzolo, Branch Manager at New American Funding, to unpack what's really happening on the front lines of lending right now. We talked about how AI is rapidly automating cookie-cutter loans — and how companies like Freedom Mortgage and Better Mortgage are already racing to cut human loan officers out of the equation. But instead of treating that as a death sentence, Sal breaks down exactly how he and his team are future-proofing themselves by mastering the 203K renovation loan — an FHA product that lets buyers purchase and renovate a home simultaneously with as little as 3.5% down. We dove deep into how this product creates supply in markets starved for inventory, how realtors can use it to close deals they would have otherwise lost, how homeowners can renovate without selling their low-rate mortgage, and why the most complex, human-intensive deals will always need a skilled loan officer who knows what no AI ever will. Lees meer

    Sal Rizzolo

    Sal Rizzolo is a Branch Manager and Senior Loan Officer at New American Funding, based in Long Island, New York, with a growing presence in Florida. With over 10 years in the mortgage industry, Sal got his start after leaving a career as a hairdresser and was mentored by industry veteran Frank, who introduced him to the business and shaped his client-first philosophy. Over the past decade, Sal has built a reputation as one of the go-to specialists in renovation lending — particularly FHA 203K loans — becoming a pioneer of what he calls "ending renovation discrimination" in real estate markets. He operates across nearly all 50 states and is known for working with complex borrower profiles that other lenders pass on: lower credit scores, higher debt-to-income ratios, and buyers with limited down payments. Sal has hosted seminars for real estate agents throughout Long Island, converting educational events into lasting referral partnerships. He is NMLS licensed (#1489171)…

  18. Real Estate's Best Kept Secret: How the 203K Loan Turns a $9,500 Investment Into $180K of Equity | Matt Porcaro

    1 mei 2026 · 42 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with my guy Matt Porcaro — the founder of The 203K Way — who breaks down one of the most underutilized financing strategies in all of real estate: the FHA 203K renovation loan. Matt shares how he turned a $9,500 down payment into over $180,000 in equity in just eight months by purchasing a run-down Long Island duplex, wrapping the renovation costs directly into his mortgage, and living in one unit while the tenant in the other essentially covered his housing costs. We go deep on how this loan works for first-time buyers, existing homeowners who want to renovate without touching their cash, and even real estate agents who need a fresh edge in a slow inventory market. We also get into the exploding world of ADUs — accessory dwelling units — and how new FHA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac guidelines are opening up virtually the entire single-family housing stock to house hackers who know where to look. If you've been sitting on the sidelines waiting for rates to drop or inventory to open up, this episode will completely change how you think about the opportunity in front of you right now. Lees meer

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  19. Stop Buying Single Family Homes — Here's How to Build Real Wealth with Multifamily Real Estate

    25 april 2026 · 37 min

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    If you're looking to build passive income through multifamily real estate, Elevest Capital gives you access to exclusive apartment investments not available to the public. Non-accredited investors can participate with as little as $10,000. Lees meer

    Get on the Investor List: lfscapital.com

    In this episode of The MORE Show, I sit down once again with my good friend and business partner Adam Williams, Founder and CEO of Elevest Capital, for a raw and real conversation about what it truly takes to build lasting wealth through real estate. I open up about one of the most painful chapters of my career — losing millions of dollars after scaling too fast, trusting the wrong person, and being too stubborn to pivot out of single family despite being warned by both Adam and Grant Cardone. Rather than wallow in it, I want this story to empower you: there are smarter, more scalable, and more tax-efficient ways to build wealth than grinding through fix-and-flip or single family rentals. Adam breaks down why right now is a once-in-a-cycle perfect storm for multifamily apartment investing — with properties trading at 30-40% discounts, organic rent growth returning, demand outpacing supply, and 100% bonus depreciation back on the table thanks to the One Big Beautiful Bill — and how through the MORE Club, everyday investors can get into $40M apartment deals with as little as $10,000, even without being accredited. This episode is about getting out of your own way, finding the right community, and taking real action toward financial freedom.

    About Justin:

    Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience.

    Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platf…

  20. How to Build Unshakeable Confidence and Perform at Your Peak | Andrea Wieland

    24 april 2026 · 49 min

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    Book a 30 min. consultation with Dr. Andrea: https://drandreawieland.youcanbook.me Lees meer

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    Get Dr. Andrea's Book:

    The Confident Performer: Rethinking Mental Performance for Athletes, Coaches and Parents https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Confident+Performer+Andrea+Wieland

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    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Andrea Wieland — an Olympic athlete, licensed psychologist, and elite performance coach — to unpack what it really takes to perform at the highest levels of sport, business, and life. Andrea shares her remarkable story of being cut from the US Olympic team eight times before finally making the 1994 World Cup roster and the 1996 Atlanta Olympic team, and we dig into the powerful mental frameworks she's developed through decades of working with NFL athletes, Fortune 500 executives, and Special Operations soldiers. We cover the critical difference between persistence and perseverance, why your goal must be bigger than your fear, the danger of tying your entire identity to a single role or achievement, and how the "Confident Performer" framework — built on a foundational pyramid of human-first identity, whole-person health habits, and elite mental skills — can transform the way you show up whether you're on the field or in the boardroom. If you've ever struggled with self-doubt, broken promises to yourself, or wondered what separates those who reach the top from those who quit, this conversation will challenge and inspire you in equal measure.

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    About Dr Andrea Wieland:

    Dr. Andrea Wieland is a licensed psychologist, peak performance coach, author, and former Olympic athlete who competed in field hockey at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games — in her own hometown. She holds a PhD in Psychology and an MBA, and brings a rare combination of world-class athletic achievement and clinical expertise to her work. Andrea has coached NFL athletes, Fortune 500 C-suite executives, Special Operations military personnel, and high-performing teams across industries, helping them …

  21. We're Done Playing Small: The M.O.R.E. Show Is Here (And Everything Changes)

    16 april 2026 · 29 min

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    In this very first episode of The M.O.R.E. Show — which stands for Maximizing Opportunities in Real Estate — I'm sitting down with my business partner Adam Williams to share why I made the decision to walk away from The Science of Flipping after 13 years and thousands of episodes, and what we're building together with timeformore.com. Adam and I have a combined 40 years in real estate, and we've seen the market from every angle — flips, multifamily, commercial — and what we kept coming back to is a massive gap in the space: people have access to education, but almost nobody is actually taking them from learning to doing and closing real deals. That's exactly what the M.O.R.E. ecosystem is designed to fix, built on three pillars — the show, the M.O.R.E. Club (where members analyze, partner on, and do real deals with us), and live events where the most powerful connections actually happen. With the economic landscape shifting fast, AI displacing jobs, the mortgage qualification rate dropping from 75% to 28%, and the wealth gap widening by the day, Adam and I believe this is the most important time to get in the game — and we're here to help you do exactly that. Lees meer

    0:00 Cold open — what the M.O.R.E. community is built for

    0:46 Justin officially introduces The M.O.R.E. Show and explains the pivot from The Science of Flipping

    1:44 M.O.R.E. acronym revealed — Maximizing Opportunities in Real Estate

    2:14 Adam tells the story of how he found Justin through his wife and hired him as a coach

    5:02 40 combined years in real estate — the gap in the marketplace they're solving

    7:10 Sponsor: LFS Capital — passive income through multifamily apartment investing

    9:25 Breaking down Pillar 1 — The Show and what guests will look like

    11:43 Adam on Justin's network and why these interviews will be different

    13:10 Pillar 2 — The M.O.R.E. Club: deal analysis, community, and co-investing

    14:25 How Justin partnered on 9 deals with Adam — the model for the club

    15:42 The state of the…

  22. How to Make $10K–$40K a Month from ONE Home with Senior Living | Isabelle Guarino

    27 maart 2026 · 42 min

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    Ready to build wealth and make an impact? Learn more: www.RALAcademy.com Lees meer

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    In this episode, I sat down with Isabelle Guarino—aka the Boss Lady of Senior Living—to pull back the curtain on one of the most under-talked-about wealth-building strategies out there: residential assisted living (RAL). If you’re like me, deep in the real estate game but never touched senior housing, this episode is going to blow your mind. Isabel breaks down how you can create $10K, $20K, even $40K/month cash flow with one single-family home—without being a caregiver or medical professional. We talk about the myth-busting behind ALFs, how to convert or acquire them, where the real money is, and how to do good while doing well. Whether you want to flip one or build a 50-home empire, Isabel shows you the path, step by step. I’m seriously reevaluating my own portfolio after this one.

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    About Isabelle:

    Isabelle Guarino is the CEO of RAL Academy, the nation’s leading training organization helping investors launch and scale Residential Assisted Living (RAL) homes. With thousands of students nationwide, she’s revolutionizing how real estate investors build cash flow while providing high-quality care to seniors. Isabel is carrying on her late father’s legacy by turning impact-driven real estate into generational wealth.

    Instagram: @ralacademy

    TikTok: @ralacademy

    Facebook: RALAcademy

    YouTube: Residential Assisted Living Academy

    Website: www.RALAcademy.com

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    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which all…

  23. How Investors Legally Avoid Taxes with Cost Segregation | Jeff Hiatt

    25 maart 2026 · 42 min

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    Today I sits down with cost segregation expert Jeff Hiatt to reveal a powerful tax-saving strategy every real estate investor should know. With over 25 years of experience and 25,000+ cost seg studies completed, Jeff has helped clients save billions by accelerating depreciation and keeping more cash in their pockets. Lees meer

    We discuss how cost segregation works, who it benefits most, and how even small property owners can take advantage of it. From single-family homes to multi-unit apartments and commercial buildings, learn how this strategy can help you reduce or even eliminate your tax bill. Plus, Jeff explains bonus depreciation and offers insights for high-income earners looking to optimize tax savings through real estate.

    Connect with Jeff Hiatt:

    Instagram: @depreciationdoctor

    Facebook: @depreciationdoctor

    Website: costsegs.com

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade.

    Connect with Justin:

    Instagram: @thejustincolby

    YouTube: Justin Colby

    TikTok: @justincolbytsof

    LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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  24. The Land Investing Strategy No One Is Talking About | Robin Seib

    17 maart 2026 · 32 min

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    Want help turning your leads into deals? Check out Robin’s platform https://thelandpilot.com Lees meer

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    What if the deals you’ve been ignoring are actually your most profitable ones?

    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with land investing expert Robin Seib to break down one of the most overlooked and scalable strategies in real estate today: land flipping.

    Robin went from burnout and running a construction company in Germany to building a U.S.-based land investing business that’s done over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12M in capital—all while operating virtually across the world.

    We dive into why land is a simpler, more scalable model than traditional real estate, how to evaluate deals, and how you can turn leads you’d normally pass on into serious profit.

    If you’re tired of dealing with contractors, tenants, and unpredictable timelines… this episode will change how you look at real estate.

    In this episode, we cover:

    - Why land investing is simpler (but not easy)

    - How to evaluate land deals (road access, flood zones, slope)

    - Turning “dead leads” into high-profit opportunities

    - How to structure deals with multiple lots

    - Creative strategies like owner financing

    - Why most investors overlook land (and why that’s an advantage)

    - How to build a remote real estate business

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    Connect with Robin Seib:

    Bio:

    Robin Seib is a land investing expert and entrepreneur with over 14 years of experience. Originally from Germany, he built a virtual U.S.-based real estate business focused on land acquisitions and dispositions. After experiencing burnout in construction and house flipping, Robin shifted to land investing and has since completed over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12 million in capital. He specializes in rural acreage, infill lots, and helping investors unlock hidden opportunities in land.

    Website: https://thelandpilot.com

    Email: robinS@thelandpilot.com

    Facebook Group: Search “Land Pilot” on Facebook

    Want help turning your …

  25. How One Conversation Turned Into a $120M Opportunity | Mark Vincent Fansler

    6 maart 2026 · 39 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with Mark Vincent Fansler, who went from carpenter to senior corporate executive, walked away from burnout, and built a vertically integrated commercial real estate empire operating across multiple states. We talk about the power of elite rooms, the vision he had at 17 that shaped his future, how one intentional conversation turned into a $120M opportunity, and why thinking bigger is the only way to win in business. This is a masterclass in community, commercial scale, and betting on yourself when no one else believes you deserve it. Lees meer

    About Mark:

    Mark Vincent Fansler is a commercial mixed-use real estate developer and founder of the M Vincent Family of Companies, a vertically integrated real estate platform operating across multiple states. With over 40 years of experience, he specializes in large-scale mixed-use developments, creative capital structuring, and building real estate ecosystems that generate long-term wealth. Starting as a carpenter and rising to senior corporate leadership, Mark now leads multi-million-dollar commercial projects nationwide.

    Connect with Mark Vincent Fansler

    Website: https://mvincentassets.com

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markvincentfansler/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.fansler.1/

    About Justin:

    Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience.

    Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence.

    Connect with Justin:

    Instagram: @thejustincolby

    YouTube: Justin Colby

    TikTok: @justincolbytsof

    LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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  26. Clear and Reload: The West Point Mindset Behind 300 Real Estate Deals a Year | Bobby Kough

    5 maart 2026 · 43 min

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    In this episode, I sat down with Bobby Kough, a West Point grad, former Army football player, and real estate operator who’s done over a thousand deals and is now running a direct-to-seller business pushing 300 deals a year. We broke down the “clear and reload” mindset he learned through sports psychology at West Point and how that reset tool translates perfectly to real estate when you’re getting rejected nonstop or taking hits on deals. Bobby shared how he started during COVID, how a quick early win gave him confidence, how one ugly “dumpster fire” house taught him the hard way to build a tight buy box, and why going to work for a proven operator helped him shave years off his learning curve. We also got into what it really takes to scale across multiple markets, the marketing channels they’re using, why direct mail still works, and why leadership and people are the hardest part of building a real company. Lees meer

    About Bobby:

    Bobby Kough is a real estate entrepreneur and operator who helps build and scale direct-to-seller home buying organizations in St. Louis, Little Rock, and Wichita. He played football at West Point, graduated in 2015, and commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the U.S. Army. While serving, Bobby discovered BiggerPockets and began studying real estate in his spare time.

    He purchased his first property in 2018, saw early success, and used that momentum to start buying distressed homes. After completing several deals, Bobby made a major career pivot — walking away from an engineering path to become an acquisitions representative, where he learned the business from the ground up by sitting at kitchen tables with sellers.

    Since then, Bobby has partnered with operators to build full-scale organizations focused on sales, operations, and culture. Last year, his teams completed over 300 deals across multiple markets. Bobby is passionate about creating systems that serve sellers with integrity, developing strong leaders, and helping real estate teams grow…

  27. Why You’re Not Closing Seller Leads (Even If They’re Motivated) | Jason Sager

    2 maart 2026 · 39 min

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    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with Jason from MotivatedSellers.com, one of the top lead generation companies in the game. We got real about what it actually takes to convert a motivated seller lead—spoiler alert: it’s way more than a couple calls and a text. Jason breaks down why 27% of their leads close within a year, but 64% of those don’t go under contract until 90+ days after the lead comes in. We dive deep into real data, proper expectations, why follow-up is everything, and how you can stop blaming the leads and start closing more deals. If you’re running PPC, buying pay-per-leads, or thinking about lead gen in any serious way—this episode is your wake-up call. Lees meer

    Key Topics Covered:

    What separates real lead converters from amateurs

    The “30-touch” rule to get a contract

    Why 64% of leads don’t close until after 90 days

    Cost per lead and how to budget effectively

    The ROI of proper follow-up systems

    Why speed-to-lead and nurture systems win

    How solopreneurs can compete with big acquisition teams

    Why flexibility in exit strategies (Novation, Subto, Burr) changes everything

    How to treat every lead like gold—even the $30 nationwide ones

    Tips for getting started with motivated seller leads

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  28. How to Access $250K–$1M in 0% Business Credit (Even in a High Interest Economy) | Ari Page

    14 januari 2026 · 49 min

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    Want to know how much you might qualify for? Just head over to www.fundandgrow.com/flippingpq the free pre-qualification takes less than two minutes. Lees meer

    In this episode, I sat down with Ari Page from Fund & Grow to break down how business owners and real estate investors are still accessing massive amounts of capital at 0% interest—even while rates keep climbing. We talked about how to use business credit cards the right way, how card stacking works, how to fund deals, payroll, marketing, and rehabs without touching your own cash, and why this strategy beats hard money and traditional loans. If you’re serious about scaling your business, protecting cash flow, and using smarter money instead of expensive debt, this episode is a must-listen.

    About Ari Page:

    Ari Page is the founder and CEO of Fund & Grow, a leading business funding company that has helped over 30,000 entrepreneurs secure more than $2 billion in business credit. With nearly two decades of experience, Ari specializes in helping business owners and real estate investors access 0% interest business credit, optimize cash flow, and scale without relying on hard money, private lenders, or giving up equity. His expertise spans business credit cards, card stacking strategies, and long-term corporate financing that doesn’t rely on personal guarantees.

    Connect with Ari Page

    Website: https://www.fundandgrow.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aripage3

    Company Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fundandgrow

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and foc…

  29. Stop Thinking Small: The Real Way to Build Wealth with Multifamily Syndications | Adam Williams

    7 januari 2026 · 36 min

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    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with my good friend and business partner Adam Williams — a true real estate powerhouse who’s scaled from flipping hundreds of single-family homes to syndicating over 11,000 apartment units. Adam shares how a cockroach-filled childhood turned him off real estate — until a chance encounter pushed him to jump all in. Lees meer

    We break down why single-family rentals rarely build true wealth, why apartments are the ultimate cash-flow machine, and how syndications help everyday investors scale big without the headaches. Adam also drops powerful mindset lessons on clarity, purpose, and how to survive the “mud” of entrepreneurship to reach the gold.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to turn active income into generational wealth, why you should think bigger than buying a rental house, and how to make your money work while you sleep — this conversation is a blueprint you can’t afford to miss.

    —

    About Adam:

    Adam Williams is a seasoned real estate investor, entrepreneur, and private equity partner. Starting in 2004 flipping single-family homes, Adam quickly scaled up to multifamily, co-founding Elevest Capital and building a portfolio of over 11,000 apartment units nationwide. Through his firm Elevest Capital, Adam helps high-income earners and business owners grow generational wealth through apartment syndications — all while educating investors on how to turn active income into passive income streams for life.

    Connect with Adam Williams:
    Instagram: @awinvests
    Company IG: @elevestcapital
    Website: www.elevestcapital.com

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look ar…

  30. The Franchise Gold Rush: How to Build Wealth, Cash Flow, and Real Estate Through Franzy | Alex Smereczniak

    12 december 2025 · 53 min

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    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with 33-year-old serial entrepreneur Alex Smereczniak, the founder of Franzy.com — what he calls the Zillow of franchising. Alex walked me through how franchising really works, why it’s far more accessible than people think, and how everyday entrepreneurs can build serious wealth through franchises, cash flow, and real estate. We talk about the hottest industries, the best opportunities, how to choose the right brand, and how the franchise + real-estate model can create multiple streams of income and even multi-million-dollar exits. This conversation opened my eyes to opportunities I didn’t even know existed — and it might do the same for you. Lees meer

    About Alex Smereczniak

    Alex Smereczniak is a serial entrepreneur and the Co-Founder & CEO of Franzy, the platform known as the “Zillow for franchising.” Before building Franzy, Alex launched and scaled 2ULaundry and LaundroLab, raising over $30M in venture capital and expanding the brands across multiple markets. His experience as both a founder and franchisor gives him unique insight into business ownership, franchise systems, operations, and scaling. Today, Alex is on a mission to democratize entrepreneurship and help create the next one million business owners through accessible franchise opportunities and transparent data.

    Connect With Alex

    Website: https://franzy.com
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexfromfranzy
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-smereczniak
    Podcast: How I Franchised This (search on all platforms)

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt t…

  31. How This Engineer Quit His Job and Closed His First Real Estate Deal | Stacio

    20 november 2025 · 39 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with my longtime student and REI Live member Stacio, who recently made the bold decision to leave his government W2 engineering job and go all in on real estate investing. We dive into his journey from buying a few rentals over a decade to finally breaking through with a full-time virtual wholesale deal. He shares how he overcame fear, built daily habits, joined our community at REILive.co, and closed a deal that took months of consistent follow-up. This one’s for anyone who’s thinking about making the leap — the mindset, the action, and the payoff are all here. If you're stuck in your job and dreaming of something more, this is your roadmap. Lees meer

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade.

    Connect with Justin:

    Instagram: @thejustincolby

    YouTube: Justin Colby

    TikTok: @justincolbytsof

    • • LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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  32. Real Estate Investing for Beginners: From W-2 Engineer to 130 Units | Joey Mack

    7 november 2025 · 40 min

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    Join the REI LIVE Community -> https://reilive.co/ Lees meer

    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, Justin sits down with longtime REI Live member Joey Mack — an engineer who burned the boats, left his W-2 job, and built a portfolio managing over 130 units. Joey shares how he closed his first deal with no experience, why relationships outperform marketing, and the mindset that turned small wins into real wealth. They discuss imperfect action, follow-up systems, building a rental portfolio, and why “passive” income isn’t truly passive. If you’re ready to go from learning to earning, this episode will show you the path forward.

    Connect with Joey Mack:
    Facebook: Joey Mack | Mack Buys Real Estate

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade.

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    Instagram: @thejustincolby

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  33. The ADU Playbook: Build Wealth With Accessory Dwelling Units | Kevin Trinh

    17 oktober 2025 · 30 min

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    Want to learn how to build wealth with ADUs? Join Kevin Trinh’s ADU Mastermind in San Diego — where investors learn how to find, build, and scale cash‑flowing ADU projects. Lees meer

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    In this episode, I sat down with ADU expert Kevin Trinh, who’s built over 180 accessory dwelling units and is quietly dominating a niche that more real estate investors need to pay attention to. Kevin broke down exactly how to spot ADU potential, what cities allow this strategy, how to structure the financing, and the long-term wealth-building plays that can make you millions. From converting garages to building multi-unit plays on a single-family lot, this episode is full of tactical advice and golden nuggets you won’t hear anywhere else. If you're serious about cash flow, legacy, or just stacking equity—this one’s for you.

    About Kevin Trinh

    Kevin Trinh is a licensed general contractor, real estate investor, and founder of the ADU Mastermind based in San Diego, CA. With over 180 ADUs built since 2016, Kevin brings a unique blend of hands-on construction experience and strategic investing knowledge. His work has helped dozens of investors create massive cash flow, spike equity, and scale real estate portfolios using the power of Accessory Dwelling Units.

    Connect with Kevin

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/thekevintrinh

    Facebook: https://facebook.com/thekevintrinh

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    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on …

  34. $85M by 24: This Man's Impressive Rise in Real Estate & Creative Finance | Cameron Burke

    10 oktober 2025 · 45 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with 24-year-old powerhouse Cameron Burke, and let me tell you — this guy is the real deal. With over $85M in retail sales, $8M+ in personal real estate holdings, and a team of 8 agents under his belt, Cameron has built a real estate empire using creative finance strategies — and he's just getting started. He opens up about his rough upbringing, how he started flipping cars and fridges in high school, and how his drive and hustle turned into a thriving business in Oklahoma City. We talk about everything from lease options, non-QM loans, and scaling with systems, to building a replicable model for agents and investors alike. Cameron drops wisdom on intrinsic motivation, mentorship, leadership, and even his philosophy on dopamine, discipline, and avoiding burnout. It’s one of the most honest, raw, and inspiring episodes we’ve ever done. Lees meer

    About Cameron:

    Cameron Burke is a 24-year-old real estate entrepreneur, investor, and founder of Creative Homes Group based in Oklahoma City. By age 24, he had closed over $85 million in retail real estate sales, built a personal portfolio exceeding $8 million in holdings, and led a team of 8+ agents specializing in creative finance, lease options, and non-QM deals. Known for his hands-on leadership, strategic marketing, and meteoric rise from humble beginnings, Cameron is quickly becoming a national voice in innovative real estate investing. He also runs a fast-growing YouTube channel sharing insights for agents, investors, and aspiring entrepreneurs.

    Connect with Cameron Burke

    YouTube: @CameronBurke
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/c.burke
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CameronBurke
    Creative Homes Group: https://www.creativehomesgroup.com

    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental…

  35. How to Stop Relying on Banks, Cut Taxes, and Control Your Wealth Like the Rich | Jayson Lowe

    12 september 2025 · 38 min

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    Get Your FREE Banker's Vault Kit – Text BANK to 813-793-7921 to receive a free box of resources, including Jayson’s book Becoming Your Own Banker and access to exclusive financial tools. Lees meer

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    In this episode, I sit down with Jayson Lowe of Ascendant Financial to uncover a wealth-building strategy that the rich have been using for decades—the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). We break down how banks are profiting off your money and why real estate investors and entrepreneurs should stop relying on traditional lenders. Jayson explains how you can borrow money at 0% interest, invest on your own terms, and keep your money growing tax-free—all by using dividend-paying whole life insurance. We dive into real-life examples, including how I personally use this strategy to fund deals and even buy my car without paying interest to a bank. If you're tired of being at the mercy of lenders and want to take full control of your finances, this episode is a must-listen!

    About Jayson:

    Meet Jayson Lowe, founder of Ascendant Financial and champion of the Infinite Banking
    Concept. For over 15 years, he's been showing people how to break free from traditional banking
    systems and build wealth on their own terms. When he's not revolutionizing clients' financial
    futures, Jayson is sharing his insights as an author, speaker, and mentor by taking complex
    business and money concepts and turning them into practical strategies that help real people
    create lasting prosperity without depending on banks or unpredictable markets.

    Learn More About Infinite Banking – Visit Ascendant Financial to discover how to take control of your money, cut out banks, and build long-term wealth.

    Connect with Jayson:

    ● Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejaysonlowe/
    ● TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@learnwithjayson
    ● Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayson-lowe-11056620/
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  36. From Oil & Gas to 200+ Deals a Year, and Dominating TV Ads | Luke Winter

    29 augustus 2025 · 40 min

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    From oil & gas engineer to 200+ real estate deals a year — Luke Winter’s story is proof that betting on yourself pays off. In this episode, I sit down with Luke to talk about walking away from corporate, scaling to hundreds of deals, exiting his investing company, and now helping investors dominate motivated seller marketing through TV ads with Hello Pro.

    We cover:

    How becoming a father pushed Luke to take the leap into real estate

    The mindset shift from employee to entrepreneur

    Scaling to 200+ deals a year and successfully exiting

    Why TV ads are one of the most underutilized strategies in real estate marketing

    The power of masterminds, community, and paying to sit at the right table

    How to stop wasting leads by improving your systems and conversions

    About Luke Winter
    Luke Winter is the founder of Hello Pro, a TV advertising agency helping real estate investors generate motivated seller leads at scale. After walking away from a successful career in oil & gas, Luke built and scaled a real estate business to over 200 deals a year before exiting and launching Hello Pro. Today, he combines his operator experience with innovative marketing strategies to help investors dominate their markets.

    Learn more about Hello Pro: https://thehellopro.com
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    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 ap…

  37. How Investors Legally Avoid Taxes with Cost Segregation | Jeff Hiatt

    22 augustus 2025 · 42 min

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    Today I sits down with cost segregation expert Jeff Hiatt to reveal a powerful tax-saving strategy every real estate investor should know. With over 25 years of experience and 25,000+ cost seg studies completed, Jeff has helped clients save billions by accelerating depreciation and keeping more cash in their pockets. Lees meer

    We discuss how cost segregation works, who it benefits most, and how even small property owners can take advantage of it. From single-family homes to multi-unit apartments and commercial buildings, learn how this strategy can help you reduce or even eliminate your tax bill. Plus, Jeff explains bonus depreciation and offers insights for high-income earners looking to optimize tax savings through real estate.

    Connect with Jeff Hyatt:

    Instagram: @depreciationdoctor

    Facebook: @depreciationdoctor

    Website: costsegs.com

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    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored tho…

  38. Will AI Take Over Real Estate? Here’s the Truth...

    15 augustus 2025 · 29 min

    Afspelen
    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I share powerful insights from a panel I recently joined at the IMN conference, where we tackled one of the hottest topics in the industry right now: AI in real estate. From hedge fund managers to mom-and-pop investors, everyone’s asking the same thing—will AI take over our space? My answer: no, but it will play a massive role. I break down the areas where AI is helping (like underwriting and tenant screening), and the places where it simply can’t replace human judgment—like negotiation, construction, and title. I also share a personal story about buying my home that underscores why human interaction will always matter. If you're a real estate pro, this episode is your wake-up call to use AI as a tool—not a replacement. Lees meer

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    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active invest…

  39. How to Make $10K–$40K a Month from ONE Home with Senior Living | Isabelle Guarino

    21 juli 2025 · 43 min

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    Ready to build wealth and make an impact? Learn more: www.RALAcademy.com Lees meer

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    In this episode, I sat down with Isabelle Guarino—aka the Boss Lady of Senior Living—to pull back the curtain on one of the most under-talked-about wealth-building strategies out there: residential assisted living (RAL). If you’re like me, deep in the real estate game but never touched senior housing, this episode is going to blow your mind. Isabel breaks down how you can create $10K, $20K, even $40K/month cash flow with one single-family home—without being a caregiver or medical professional. We talk about the myth-busting behind ALFs, how to convert or acquire them, where the real money is, and how to do good while doing well. Whether you want to flip one or build a 50-home empire, Isabel shows you the path, step by step. I’m seriously reevaluating my own portfolio after this one.

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    About Isabelle:

    Isabelle Guarino is the CEO of RAL Academy, the nation’s leading training organization helping investors launch and scale Residential Assisted Living (RAL) homes. With thousands of students nationwide, she’s revolutionizing how real estate investors build cash flow while providing high-quality care to seniors. Isabel is carrying on her late father’s legacy by turning impact-driven real estate into generational wealth.

    Instagram: @ralacademy

    TikTok: @ralacademy

    Facebook: RALAcademy

    YouTube: Residential Assisted Living Academy

    Website: www.RALAcademy.com

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  40. Sales Beats Marketing: Why Your Leads Mean Nothing Without This | Benmont Locker

    11 juli 2025 · 44 min

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    Grab your free 7-day trial inside Benmont’s sales community at www.ramprei.com — get live coaching, real frameworks, and a system that actually works. Lees meer

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    In this powerful episode of The Science of Flipping, I’m joined by sales powerhouse and self-proclaimed “data nerd” Benmont Locker. We tackle a mindset shift most investors desperately need: sales is senior to marketing. If you’re torching cash on leads but have no clear sales system, you’re doomed to chaos and burnout. Ben breaks down how his team has closed thousands of deals by obsessing over a consistent, repeatable sales process — one that could plug into any industry.

    We dig into:

    Why scripts alone won’t save you — you need a framework that builds trust, uncovers real emotion, and closes deals with integrity.

    The 5-step sales sequence every investor needs: set expectations, build trust, qualify/disqualify, present options, and close strong.

    How to use pattern interrupts and “creating space” — virtually and in person — to get the deal done.

    Ben’s unique take on giving sellers the “Disney Experience” — delivering unmatched value so price becomes secondary.

    Why too many people hide behind busy work instead of sharpening their sales sword.

    How introverts, data geeks, and self-doubters can transform into confident closers by leaning on proven systems and community accountability.

    We also get real about what’s stopping you — self-sabotage, victim mindset, and waiting for the perfect plan. If you’ve ever felt stuck or “not good enough,” Ben’s story and framework will light a fire under you.

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    About Benmont:

    Benmont Locker is a real estate investor, sales strategist, and founder of RampREI, a coaching community and sales training platform for real estate investors. With 1,000s of transactions under his belt, Ben teaches investors how to master trust-based sales systems that deliver consistent, profitable deals — without the chaos.

    Website: www.ramprei.com — Get your FREE 7-day trial to Ben’s full live…

  41. Stop Thinking Small: The Real Way to Build Wealth with Multifamily Syndications | Adam Williams

    27 juni 2025 · 39 min

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    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with my good friend and business partner Adam Williams — a true real estate powerhouse who’s scaled from flipping hundreds of single-family homes to syndicating over 11,000 apartment units. Adam shares how a cockroach-filled childhood turned him off real estate — until a chance encounter pushed him to jump all in. Lees meer

    We break down why single-family rentals rarely build true wealth, why apartments are the ultimate cash-flow machine, and how syndications help everyday investors scale big without the headaches. Adam also drops powerful mindset lessons on clarity, purpose, and how to survive the “mud” of entrepreneurship to reach the gold.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to turn active income into generational wealth, why you should think bigger than buying a rental house, and how to make your money work while you sleep — this conversation is a blueprint you can’t afford to miss.

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    About Adam:

    Adam Williams is a seasoned real estate investor, entrepreneur, and private equity partner. Starting in 2004 flipping single-family homes, Adam quickly scaled up to multifamily, co-founding Elevest Capital and building a portfolio of over 11,000 apartment units nationwide. Through his firm Elevest Capital, Adam helps high-income earners and business owners grow generational wealth through apartment syndications — all while educating investors on how to turn active income into passive income streams for life.

    Connect with Adam Williams:
    Instagram: @awinvests
    Company IG: @elevestcapital
    Website: www.elevestcapital.com

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  42. Flip Dirt, Print Money: The Land Flipping Blueprint | Joe McCall

    20 juni 2025 · 41 min

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    In this episode, I’m joined by my longtime friend and land flipping expert, Joe McCall. We dive deep into the often-overlooked world of flipping land—why it’s simpler, less competitive, and often more profitable than traditional house flipping. Joe breaks down how he builds lean businesses without the overhead, how he uses data to target high-demand counties, and how he’s taught even his teenage sons to generate six-figure profits flipping dirt. If you’ve ever come across land leads and didn’t know what to do with them, this episode gives you the exact system Joe uses to identify buyers first, comp land in five minutes, and get 3–5% response rates with low-cost direct mail. You’ll also learn about Joe’s free Chrome extension for Zillow, and how to join his 5-day Flip Dirt Challenge to put everything into action.

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    About Joe:

    Joe McCall is a seasoned real estate investor, coach, and host of the long-running Real Estate Investing Mastery Podcast, which has garnered over 20 million downloads since 2011. Known for his simple, systems-driven approach, Joe specializes in land flipping—buying and selling vacant land nationwide without renovations, contractors, or heavy overhead. A former civil engineer, Joe has taught thousands of investors how to build scalable, location-independent businesses using automation, direct mail, and smart market targeting. His methods are so streamlined that even his teenage sons have earned six figures flipping land.

    🔗 Connect with Joe McCall:

    Instagram: @jvmccall

    Facebook: Simple Lease Options

    YouTube: Joe McCall - Real Estate Investing Mastery

    Podcast: Real Estate Investing Mastery

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  43. Why You’re Not Closing Seller Leads (Even If They're Motivated) | Jason Sager

    6 juni 2025 · 42 min

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    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with Jason from MotivatedSellers.com, one of the top lead generation companies in the game. We got real about what it actually takes to convert a motivated seller lead—spoiler alert: it's way more than a couple calls and a text. Jason breaks down why 27% of their leads close within a year, but 64% of those don’t go under contract until 90+ days after the lead comes in. We dive deep into real data, proper expectations, why follow-up is everything, and how you can stop blaming the leads and start closing more deals. If you’re running PPC, buying pay-per-leads, or thinking about lead gen in any serious way—this episode is your wake-up call. Lees meer

    🧠 Key Topics Covered:

    What separates real lead converters from amateurs

    The “30-touch” rule to get a contract

    Why 64% of leads don’t close until after 90 days

    Cost per lead and how to budget effectively

    The ROI of proper follow-up systems

    Why speed-to-lead and nurture systems win

    How solopreneurs can compete with big acquisition teams

    Why flexibility in exit strategies (Novation, Subto, Burr) changes everything

    How to treat every lead like gold—even the $30 nationwide ones

    Tips for getting started with motivated seller leads

    🔗 Guest Info – Jason from Motivated Sellers

    Website: https://www.motivatedsellers.com

    Email: Jason@motivatedsellers.com

    Instagram: @motivated.sellers

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  44. Will AI Take Over Real Estate? Here’s the Truth...

    23 mei 2025 · 29 min

    Afspelen
    In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I share powerful insights from a panel I recently joined at the IMN conference, where we tackled one of the hottest topics in the industry right now: AI in real estate. From hedge fund managers to mom-and-pop investors, everyone’s asking the same thing—will AI take over our space? My answer: no, but it will play a massive role. I break down the areas where AI is helping (like underwriting and tenant screening), and the places where it simply can’t replace human judgment—like negotiation, construction, and title. I also share a personal story about buying my home that underscores why human interaction will always matter. If you're a real estate pro, this episode is your wake-up call to use AI as a tool—not a replacement. Lees meer

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    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coach…

  45. Why 90% of Your Marketing Budget Feels Wasted (And Why That’s Okay)

    9 mei 2025 · 29 min

    Afspelen
    In this solo episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on how I really view marketing after nearly two decades in the real estate investing game. I’ve spent tens of millions of dollars on marketing, and let me tell you—most people get it wrong. They treat marketing like a cost, not an investment. In this episode, I share what’s actually worked for me, how I think about branding vs. marketing, and why it’s critical to set proper expectations for ROI. I break down different marketing verticals—from cold calling and direct mail to Facebook ads and TV—and explain which ones build brand recognition and which are better for quick lead generation. Whether you’ve got a small or large budget, I’ll help you figure out how to spend smarter and build something that lasts. This is everything I wish someone told me when I got started. Lees meer

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    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE…

  46. [REPOST] Trump, Inflation, and the Future of Real Estate | Jason Hartman

    2 mei 2025 · 45 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with economist and real estate expert Jason Hartman to discuss the impact of inflation on real estate investing and why debt can be an asset when leveraged correctly. They explore the Inflation-Induced Debt Destruction concept, explaining how rising prices actually reduce the real cost of debt over time, benefiting homeowners and investors. The conversation also covers the housing shortage, the Federal Reserve’s role in interest rates, and why real estate remains the best long-term wealth-building tool. Jason shares insights on tax benefits, leveraging properties, and why now is still a great time to invest despite market uncertainties. Lees meer

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    𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐉𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧: After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

    His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, where he has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade.

    He is a nationally recognized speaker and is on a mission to educate as many people as possible on becoming a success…

  47. From Lost to $15K: One Phone Call Changed Everything for Him | Phillip Godkin

    25 april 2025 · 40 min

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    In this inspiring episode of Entrepreneur DNA, Phillip Godkin shares his transformation from a confused newcomer in real estate investing to someone confidently closing deals—all in just four months. After encountering the real estate world by chance in Nashville and moving back to Milwaukee, Phillip struggled with information overload and a lack of coaching until discovering Justin Colby’s REILive.co. With determination, he took consistent action, overcame fear, built key relationships, and followed Justin’s success pillars to earn $15,000 across two deals. His story is a masterclass in taking imperfect action, building certainty, and committing to a vision of financial freedom.

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    About Phillip:

    Phillip Godkin is a real estate investor based in Milwaukee who began his investing journey after a life-changing encounter with a bandit sign in Nashville. Though initially overwhelmed by the vast real estate investing landscape, Phillip committed himself to growth and learning. After joining Justin Colby’s Science of Flipping program and REILive.co community in December 2024, Phillip closed his first deal and has another in escrow, all within four months.

    He is a passionate coach himself, drawing parallels between athletic coaching and real estate mentorship. Phillip believes in persistence, daily action, and building relationships as the core of his investing philosophy.

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  48. Faith Over Fear: The Bold Leap in Real Estate That Changed This Man's Life | Anthony Cota

    18 april 2025 · 43 min

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    In this episode, I sits down with Anthony Cota, a former car salesman who traded 90-hour workweeks and a six-figure salary for freedom, family, and fulfillment through real estate investing. Anthony shares how he made the leap without even closing a deal yet, what sacrifices were necessary, and the mindset that powered his transition. We break down the early struggles, how he did 10+ deals before spending a dollar on marketing, and why he believes REI Live is a game-changer for new investors. This episode is a masterclass in faith, grit, and real estate hustle. Lees meer

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    About Anthony Cota:

    Anthony Cota is a real estate investor and founder of Cota Creative Capital. A former high-performing car salesman, Anthony walked away from his job—and a six-figure income—to pursue full-time real estate investing. In less than two years, Anthony has built a business that allows him more time with family, while helping others succeed inside the REILive.co community. He's a mentor, family man, and an example of living life by design.

    Instagram: @cotacreativecapital

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    About Justin:

    After investing in real estate for over 17 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

    Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to …

  49. Lost $100K on His First Flip—Now He Closes 30 Deals a Month and Owns a $20M Portfolio | Tommy Harr

    11 april 2025 · 44 min

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    In this episode, I sat down with Tommy Harr—a friend, powerhouse investor, and someone I respect deeply in the real estate game. Tommy shares how he went from losing $100K on his very first flip to owning over $20 million in real estate and consistently closing 30+ deals a month. We talked about the gritty lessons that built his empire—cold calling, TV ads, building a sales team, and mastering construction. He also opens up about the sacrifices he made early on, like living in his own living room, and how social media became a powerful tool for raising millions in private capital. If you're trying to go from stuck to scaling, this one’s a real blueprint. Lees meer

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    About Tommy Harr:

    Tommy Harr is a real estate investor based in Columbus, Ohio, who transitioned from a home inspector to a real estate entrepreneur. By the age of 27, he achieved financial freedom through real estate investing. Tommy has completed over 200 wholesale deals, renovated more than 150 properties, and manages a portfolio of 70 rental units valued at $15 million, along with 25 in-house managed short-term rentals. He is the founder of the Real Side Real Estate Community, where he mentors aspiring investors nationwide.

    Connect with Tommy Harr

    Website: Real Side Real Estate

    Instagram: @tommyharr05

    TikTok: @tommyharr05

    LinkedIn: Thomas Harr

    Linktree: linktr.ee/tommyharr05

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  50. F*ck Big Banks: How This Man is Flipping the Lending System | Tim Herriage

    4 april 2025 · 51 min

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    In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and industry powerhouse Tim Herriage, the founder of Ternus. We dive deep into how he went from helping bring Wall Street money into real estate to now flipping the script and decentralizing the entire lending model. Tim shares how Ternus is making real estate investing easier and faster with 100% financing, 24-hour draw payments, and a no-nonsense, people-first approach. We talk about why he built Ternus for real investors—by real investors—and how anyone, not just institutions, can now own a piece of the lending game through their new crowdfunding model. If you're tired of big banks and slow lenders, this episode is for you. Lees meer

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    About Tim Herriage:

    ​Tim Herriage is a seasoned real estate entrepreneur and investor with over two decades of experience in the industry. As the Founder and CEO of Ternus, he leads a company dedicated to providing fast and reliable capital to real estate investors, emphasizing a partnership approach to help clients build wealth and create lasting legacies.

    Resources & Links:

    Learn more & apply: https://ternus.com
    Invest & become a shareholder: https://invest.ternus.com

    Instagram: @timherriage

    LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timherriage​

    YouTube: youtube.com/c/timherriage​

    Facebook: facebook.com/herriage

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